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If Charles were smart he would abdicate. He might reign over the collapse of the monarchy. (Original Post) boston bean Sep 2022 OP
It's really none of our business, is it? Ocelot II Sep 2022 #1
Many of my opinions aren't borne of my own personal business. boston bean Sep 2022 #2
By that logic, one could say Boston Bean's opinions are none of yours either. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #3
Me thoughts exactly. boston bean Sep 2022 #8
Yes. Amazing how Americans think we have the right to tell anyone else how to govern. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #13
Spot on. The monarchy of Britain Polly Hennessey Sep 2022 #15
Nah, he nudged his mom into modernizing the monarchy obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #4
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2022 #35
Sorry, I completely disagree. LisaM Sep 2022 #5
It's not really about his age. It's about him. boston bean Sep 2022 #7
Brits moved with the times. Charles and Camilla are popular. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #11
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2022 #36
Respect is earned. Elizabeth II earned hers and she had seventy Polly Hennessey Sep 2022 #16
He's an environmentalist and preservationist. LisaM Sep 2022 #18
He just told us you will never hear him be open about it now because he is king n boston bean Sep 2022 #19
About politics. LisaM Sep 2022 #27
Unfortunately, like here, climate is political there. boston bean Sep 2022 #29
That would be a noble, magnanimous gesture that would endear both him... brush Sep 2022 #6
1. KC just made a speech saying he pledges to serve for the rest of his life. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #9
Thank you. Treefrog Sep 2022 #37
Yes Americans are fascinated with the monarchy but at the same time hate it. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #38
People keep saying that and insisting on it but treestar Sep 2022 #10
Abdication isn't a thing with the Brits obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #28
Classic reactionaryism... London could also drown under sea level rise Model35mech Sep 2022 #12
The truth, on so many subjects, ends the monarchy. Wrestlefire769 Sep 2022 #14
You're right Buckeyeblue Sep 2022 #17
And that could go both intentionally and unintentionally for/by Charles. Wrestlefire769 Sep 2022 #20
Part of me thinks maybe intentionally Buckeyeblue Sep 2022 #26
Check this out. Torchlight Sep 2022 #21
I believe Charles I was beheaded for dissolving parliament. boston bean Sep 2022 #22
Mrs. Aristus and I watched it. We're both Shakespeare fans. Aristus Sep 2022 #24
I saw it in the theatre. LisaM Sep 2022 #30
This is hilarious. muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #23
You owe me an apology for the whole William fanfic thing... Violet_Crumble Sep 2022 #31
Brits would turn on William/monarchy faster leftstreet Sep 2022 #25
I see nothing particularly lively about William. nt pnwmom Sep 2022 #32
How would William breathe new life into the monarchy? betsuni Sep 2022 #33
No. Treefrog Sep 2022 #34

Scrivener7

(50,911 posts)
3. By that logic, one could say Boston Bean's opinions are none of yours either.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:53 PM
Sep 2022

So your position becomes real silly, real fast.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
13. Yes. Amazing how Americans think we have the right to tell anyone else how to govern.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:55 PM
Sep 2022

We lack the basic services and rights of most modern countries.

Health care, education, voting rights, discrimination of women and minorities.
Worker's rights.

Gun violence where 6 yr olds at school and grandmas at church are shot to ribbons.

We tell our citizens not to wear masks or get vaccines during a deadly global pandemic.

We wonder if our democracy is dead.

Half of our US leaders are dangerous sociopaths who wish us dead and want to end democracy.

We elect a known criminal to office who goes on a 4 year crime spree including inciting civil war,
overturning the US government, and stealing/selling national secrets to our enemies.

But we know better than anyone else how to run a country.

Polly Hennessey

(6,786 posts)
15. Spot on. The monarchy of Britain
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:09 PM
Sep 2022

has nothing to do with us. An opinion is just that an opinion. Most opinions are subjective and of interest only to the “opinionater”. I saw Prime Minister Truss meet with the queen and she seemed okay with the whole situation. King Charles III will do just fine and so will the British people. My opinion, of course.

obamanut2012

(26,046 posts)
4. Nah, he nudged his mom into modernizing the monarchy
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:56 PM
Sep 2022

And has talked before about how he wants to further do that. He will be a great transitional monarch, and imo will save the British monarchy. Abdicating is the worst thing he could do. Charles is breathing new air into the institution.

Camilla is also very well liked over there, and I also very much now like her. She is actually well suited for her role as Queen Consort.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
5. Sorry, I completely disagree.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:56 PM
Sep 2022

I could see a case being made for his staying for 7-10 years and then passing the torch, but I think it's very unfair for Charles not to have his turn. It's wrong to shove people aside who have the experience and seniority for a job.

I really like Boston Bean, but ai think this is a very ageist remark.

boston bean

(36,218 posts)
7. It's not really about his age. It's about him.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:59 PM
Sep 2022

His past. He is just not going to have the same kind of respect given to him.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
11. Brits moved with the times. Charles and Camilla are popular.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:48 PM
Sep 2022

He is respected and will be more so as time goes by.

Polly Hennessey

(6,786 posts)
16. Respect is earned. Elizabeth II earned hers and she had seventy
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:15 PM
Sep 2022

years to do it. The monarchy has remained fascinating throughout history. Looking forward to the next chapter. Charles is an advocate of modernization and he was an advocate of climate change very early on. I remember when he was derided for his forward thinking views.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
18. He's an environmentalist and preservationist.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:24 PM
Sep 2022

For those reasons alone, I would like him to be King.

I don't see any compelling reason for William to be King. I have nothing against him, but I don't see that he brings anything to the table except youth. I don't know his issues or interests or causes.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
27. About politics.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:48 PM
Sep 2022

I hope he doesn't consider the environment a political issue.

I still don't have any bead on William.

brush

(53,740 posts)
6. That would be a noble, magnanimous gesture that would endear both him...
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:59 PM
Sep 2022

and the monarchy to the British public.

Maybe while he's king he should extend olive branches to Harry and Meghan and the rest of family, squash all the bad blood, forbid it, bring the Suxxeses back into the fold.

Get the institution in good shape for the changing future on the nation and it's attitude towards the monarchy. Then after that's done in a few years, turn it over to William.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
9. 1. KC just made a speech saying he pledges to serve for the rest of his life.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:46 PM
Sep 2022

2. Prince William does NOT want to be king now.
He has young children to raise and does not want the big job yet.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
37. Thank you.
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 06:43 AM
Sep 2022

Funny how even on DU we see ageism. Yesterday I saw a post about how "ugly" he and Camilla are.

Judging people on age and looks...didn't expect to see it here.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
38. Yes Americans are fascinated with the monarchy but at the same time hate it.
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 07:04 AM
Sep 2022

Seems an odd combination.

I respect the British people and it is their form of government, tradition and history.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. People keep saying that and insisting on it but
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:48 PM
Sep 2022

there has never been any indication that would ever be done. The Queen kept doing the job to 96 and he's only in his 70s. He's the heir and so now he's King. End of story.

obamanut2012

(26,046 posts)
28. Abdication isn't a thing with the Brits
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:49 PM
Sep 2022

Unlike, say, the Dutch Monarchs, who will occasionally basically retire. And, except for Unca David the Nazi and Andrew, modern Royals tend to take this seriously.

QEII, KCIII, Queen Camilla, Sophie Wessex, the Princess Royal,and others do an insane amount of work. They live lives of privilege, but they work their asses off, as well.

 

Wrestlefire769

(84 posts)
14. The truth, on so many subjects, ends the monarchy.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:58 PM
Sep 2022

No one can save it, except those who keep the plates spinning.

One of the reasons I'm shocked Charles actually made it to be King.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
26. Part of me thinks maybe intentionally
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:47 PM
Sep 2022

At some level Charles has to hate the whole thing. It prevented him from marrying the woman he loved. It forced him into a marriage he didn't want. I also don't see him being neutral. He has definite opinions. And at some point he might say why are we pretending this means anything?

Torchlight

(3,292 posts)
21. Check this out.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:32 PM
Sep 2022



About five years ago, out of the blue, I came across this movie on PBS called King Charles III. A Shakespearian tragedy set in a fictional world where the queen's passing sets off a constitutional crises the likes of which Britain hasn't seen by the new king and written in Shakespearian verse.

Almost every royal is depicted as either incredibly self-serving and evil, or incredibly weak and naive. It's a really compelling drama/tragedy, Othello-level tragedy. And written in verse projected onto characters we think we already know. I found it compelling as hell, especially going into it having zero idea of its existence.

Aristus

(66,285 posts)
24. Mrs. Aristus and I watched it. We're both Shakespeare fans.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:45 PM
Sep 2022

We thought it was just going to be a 'what-if' royal story. Then we heard the prologue: An iambic pentameter introductory sonnet in the style of the epilogue from Henry V. By the end of the prologue, we were captivated.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
30. I saw it in the theatre.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 05:07 PM
Sep 2022

Draggy and pointless. They wore out the premise really early on. And the woman who was supposed to be Diana's ghost looked so much like Queen Victoria that it detracted from the production.

The only redeeming thing was that the guy who played Charles was Jimmy from "Desperately Seeking Susan".

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
23. This is hilarious.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:43 PM
Sep 2022

The "isn't William just dreamy" posts never seem to end on DU. Your title made me expect a properly-argued case for the UK to switch to republicanism, and instead I find it's fanfic, just for the younger model.

Violet_Crumble

(35,955 posts)
31. You owe me an apology for the whole William fanfic thing...
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 04:11 AM
Sep 2022

I thought to myself 'surely not', but then I wandered over to fanfic.net and sure enough there's Windsor fanfic. I'm about to head down a rabbit-hole and search for Prince William/Merlin/Dr Who crossovers. You have a lot to answer for!

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
25. Brits would turn on William/monarchy faster
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:46 PM
Sep 2022

After the older, uh..stately Charles, the whole clan will be nothing short of a Kardashian trainwreck and the press/social media will eat them alive

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