CBS, NBC & ABC - I Understand Broke Into Programming Today To Televise The King's.....

[global1]

initial address to his nation.

Yes - they broadcast a foreign leader's address - but wouldn't broadcast our President's Democracy speech last week to our nation.

What's wrong with this picture?

[jimfields33]

1. Nothing wrong at all

This was an official address by the king. President Biden’s speech was at a factory in Philadelphia. Had it been in the Oval Office, it would have been shown.

[BlackSkimmer]

3. This.

An historic moment at the end of a wonderful monarch’s reign.

[Bucky]

15. A monarch. Think about that as you post on DEMOCRATIC Underground

I mean, I got nothing against Britain having a hereditary monarch. It's their country and their people get to negotiate it out with history on how they wish to be governed.

But that's their country, not our country (there was like a war about that and everything) and the googly-eyed sentiment that monarchs and their ilk illicit in the eyes of the public (as evidence by the choice to broadcast a foreign leader's adieu to his sweet mama while ignoring our own leader's warning against the rise of fascism) is entirely the reason why our nation rightly elected to go with a republican form of government.

[BlackSkimmer]

16. Well, I have a dual nationality, so you'll have to forgive me.

And I love history.

This is historic.

[paleotn]

80. In the 21st century, this is boring, incredibly expensive and a total waste of time...

The days of a "class" or a "royal family" who's shit doesn't stink are long over. History has moved on, while the Brits are stuck in an anachronistic loop.

[BlackSkimmer]

104. Too funny.

Noted.

[BlackSkimmer]

109. Oh dear.

That would be “whose”.


English is a difficult language,

[whathehell]

100. That's nice, but you may have to forgive me

for pointing out that not all things "historic" are of equal importance.

[BlackSkimmer]

105. Yeah, but a monarch who ruled for 70 years is.

Ymmv.

[whathehell]

107. Nah

Not in this country, especially when the monarch is basically just a figurehead with little actual power.

[BlackSkimmer]

108. Do some research dear.

She was a true power.

[whathehell]

113. Do your own research, dear

The British monarchy are basically figure heads..The last person to publicly assert otherwise was Sarah Palin.

[BlackSkimmer]

114. Oh dear.

You truly need to do some research.

I do not.

The fact that you would cite Palin? Wow. Speaks volumes.

[whathehell]

115. LOL

Nice try, dear, but the fact that you neither know of the Palin quote or understand it's citation as the negative comparison it is, "speaks volumes" to me.

[Wrestlefire769]

24. Mewr.

Uhhh, I get a little bit of it, because we here saw the importance of Biden's address.

But this was the first speech of the first new monarch there in seven decades. I think I can see it as a world news event.

[Blue_playwright]

30. I am a monarchist and would be in the Labour Party in the UK...

I think it is a cash cow and a wonderful connection to history - both the good and bad.


And although he’s likely a jerk and treated Diana like shit - I think he’s forward thinking and can be a leader in their constitutional monarchy. I’m hopeful he will nudge other leaders into the correct direction on climate and green energy.

[soldierant]

74. I hope you are correct.

[paleotn]

84. Can we call him Pharaoh? That's a wonderful connection to history.

And about as relevant to the 21st century as Chuck Cubed in a clown suit.

[whathehell]

98. Thank you. n/t

[DenaliDemocrat]

47. Unless you are Irish, Indian, or am Aboriginal

Australian or Pakistani (and some Canadians too I guess). They might not agree with the whole “wonderful” part.

[Ninga]

50. Agree. The British colonization of indigenous people should be a stain on the Monarchy. The

British Monarchy is practically the last one standing. It really serves no purpose.

[paleotn]

85. Canadian First Nations have a legitimate gripe, no doubt.

[cksmithy]

6. President Biden spoke

at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, where the beginnings of the United States began. That is a very important place.

[Rebl2]

13. Exactly

All three networks should have shown it!

[paleotn]

82. Absolutely!!!!

Where, incidentally, we told George Cubed to go shove it up his dainty asshole. Well said, ck.

[pnwmom]

8. Biden's speech was from Independence Hall in Philadelphia, not some factory.

It should have been broadcast.

[Cha]

20. You're Wrong, jimfields..

and so is the GD POS Fascist Meida.

President Biden spoke at Independence Hall where Our Democracy Began!!:paatriot:

Please get your facts Straight!

[wnylib]

51. When did Independence Hall become a factory?

[TigressDem]

63. Maybe.

It's a pattern of ignoring Biden in general. HE IS NEWSWORTHY, but the MSM is STILL sucking up to tRump.

[SouthernDem4ever]

70. News programmers took their jobs seriously at one time in history

News departments didn't write news articles just for click bait and cash. Yes the newsprint and television news of the past sold advertising but didn't usually allow the advertisers to dictate the news coverage. They took seriously that freedom of the press was mentioned in the US Constitution for a reason and treated their jobs responsibly. Journalists used to be trained to tell the truth and it was expected of them by the public. For this reason the public was easily duped over the last 30 years of watered down ethics and misinformation being flung at them by what is left of the media after big money consolidated and perverted the medium. The downhill slide started in the 80's and has been on a race to the bottom ever since. When I was young, everyone knew the National Enquirer was mostly made up of untruths, innuendo and sensationalism. Now, you can't tell the difference anymore. For this reason, you see more about the crowning of a monarch in another country instead of an important speech by our own president trying to save our system from anarchy.

[dsc]

71. It was at Independence Hall

[soldierant]

72. There's something to be said for being aware of our allies' doings.

Of course that should also imply being aware of our own first.

The Conversation has an article out about Americans being overdonfident abpoout their knowledge of politics. Long story short, Dunning-Kruger still applies.

[2naSalit]

76. And they didn't air his speech at Independence Hall...

That's what the issue is in my book. Yes, the coronation is a world event but they couldn't fucking tear themselves away from reruns to show the president's speech that lasted less than a rerun episode.

Fuck them.

[uponit7771]

78. "... the king..." ? Did I miss something? thx in advance

[paleotn]

79. Even at this late date, the Brits need to learn their place....

Last I heard, QE2 and Chuck Cubed weren't the leaders of the free goddamn world. So Biden's speech more than trumps the latest GB royal whiner. Dreams of grandeur ended in 1944, when they became the junior partner on the western front. It kept going down hill from there.

[whathehell]

94. Sorry, but an address by our president on the state of our democracy

is, by default, more important than a pro forma speech by the titular king of a foreign country.

[BlackSkimmer]

111. Lol. The world press disagrees with you.

[whathehell]

112. Lol..The "world press" is attracted to pomp, pageantry

and other shiny objects.

[malaise]

2. Great spot

Rec

[onecaliberal]

4. Fascist media.

[303squadron]

5. Difference in the speeches

One speech was given by a man trying to save his country from fascism.
The other speech included a man declaring his well known devotion to piety.

[certainot]

41. the royal sex on the wrong brain certitude vs democracy. whole empires and civilizations

built on trying to satisfy an irrational need for certainty/closure exacerbated by the sexual repression used, by design or default, to increase wrong handed masturbation and send impatient satisfaction-demanding reproductive impulses to the left brain, where they interfere with thought processes that require patience and objectivity, like logic, evaluation, and comparison and irrationally demand closure and certainty- to get the thinking over with

[muriel_volestrangler]

46. Well, that's a fucking bizarre post

Talking of things "on the brain" that probably shouldn't be, why would you bring that up in this thread?

[certainot]

48. fascism, authoritarianism, religion, unassailable certitude of the royalty/leadership (trump, king)

and parts of the same old problem - not human nature

99.9% of our evolution humans lived in small groups surrounded by the uncertainties of nature and generally cooperating to survive. the theory is based on the simple premise that is makes a difference which hand we learn sex with. those differences that gave us survival advantages in times of conflict eventually took us from 50-50 right and left handed to 90-10. but we were still hard wired for cooperation, we lived short lives, and reproduced early. in most parts pf the world i wasn't until recently, centuries for europe and parts of asia and north africa, that sex on the wrong brain got really bad and the authoritarianism exploded - columbus meets the natives, etc.

warring civilizations have been selecting for sowb symptoms for centuries in some cases and some people get sex on the wrong brain bad. trumpers have it bad and they are addicted to TFG's royal i'm-never-wrong-certitude. to create or except non existent certainty/closure they have to be able to deny reality and lie and accept lies. they love they way he, like limbaugh etc, reduce the world to absolutes to help them make certainty and banish the uncertainty/change/complexity/other that frightens and confuses them. one side of the wall or the other. guns and death represent certainty. that's the embarrassing secret of authoritarian power.

trump actually has it as bad as hitler, living in a very simple reality. he just goes from oner golf hole to another. can't see shit. the english royalty is just symbolic though. they have democracy.

[muriel_volestrangler]

55. Wow - so the "there is a hand you should masturbate with" claim is one you support

(or invented yourself), not something you were criticising as stupid?

Wow.

[harumph]

58. I'm not sure of the SOWB hypothesis - but Certainornot

has been consistently dead on correct about the outsized influence of AM radio in the hinterlands and
how democrats have ignored it - and paid the price. I think at one time there was some
suggestion of having chipsets that have voice recognition capability tuned into these various stations
and generating/converting speech to text content for analysis. Very good idea. Cheers to Certainornot!

[certainot]

68. should be a basic sex ed lesson... the koran mandates the opposite. "man can only have sex with his

wife and that which the right hand possesses" - the scholars used to say what the right hand possesses is slaves and captives, so all the poor, wifeless, and non warriors who don't get slaves or captives have to go celibate....... or if they cheat, it better be with the right hand

[stopdiggin]

54. this poster is (famous?) for this

stuff. pretty out there - but they're consistent with it! --- ---

[certainot]

69. at least the left handers and ambidextrous are often complimentary

[paleotn]

81. Piety? Does the concubine know?

[Kaleva]

7. Nothing wrong. They are a for profit business

They will cover what will likely draw a large audience which in turn, increases profit

[Cha]

21. Sure as Hell is

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WRONG.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. Well what do you recommend? State run media?

[Cha]

39. The Media To Do their JOB!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. But they are! For their bosses who answer to board. Just a

fact of life today. We can kiss true journalism and seeking the truth goodbye. Sad, very sad, but reality.

[paleotn]

89. Unfortunately, though I'd love to, I can't argue with that....

That is the unfortunate world we live in thanks to Ronnie Raygun.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

92. How did networks survive back in the day? More of a unified

and respectful audience? Infinitely less competition. Only did what 30 min + breaking ( real) news events?

For me, it was a loss of gravitas. But it was also impossible to fill 24/7 with gravitas I'm not sure what you're getting at with Reagan, but things changed once we went 24/7. In my humble opinion

[paleotn]

93. News divisions weren't money making ventures. But if they wanted a broadcast license....

on a very limited number of frequencies owned by the American public, they had to have one. The public interest requirement and a cost of doing business. Unlike print media, the entertainment divisions paid the bills and the stockholders for television. The Fairness Doctrine kept them from broadcasting one single view day in and day out. All that changed with cable and, as you mentioned, the 24/7 news cycle. Cable channels are nearly endless, unlike broadcast frequencies, so the FCC dropped the public interest requirement. Reagan gutted the Fairness Doctrine. As we stand now, I can't figure out if 24/7 news or Facebook is a greater threat to democracy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

96. Interesting! Thanks for sharing that history! Perhaps I was too naive

back then, but the networks seemed to be believable. They did a great job faking it to meet fairness guidelines


Digressing, I know..but have a theory too that 24/7 business news has changed everything too. I haven't been able to find a direct correlation (proof), but I do remember way back when when people looked at their stock once a week in a newspaper. And if it went up 5 cents per share they were ecstatic and didn't even think about it until next Friday.

Now, if companies estimate they will increase earnings by 5.002% and they come in at 5.001% -they failed! And it's blasted all over instant business news. To me, that was the end of businesses actually trying to improve the lives of their workers. Because the easiest thing to cut is benefit expense. No more pensions! Sorry for digressing

[Mariana]

52. Their JOB is to gather an audience for their advertisers.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

99. Exactly. So why don't people get that? Why the constant trashing

of media... When it seems so obvious?

[Mariana]

101. I don't understand why people don't just turn that shit off.

If they don't like the content that's being delivered by a particular media outlet, they should stop supporting that outlet.

[Kaleva]

103. Their job is to make money for their owners and investors

[paleotn]

87. Amen!!! Absolutely!!!

[Cha]

91. Mahalo for the Really

Check, paleotn!
I’m tired of these excuses for the US m$$$m!

[hay rick]

40. They are not in the business of supporting and sustaining democracy.

More than that, they are indifferent to democracy and hostile to supporting democracy if that conflicts with their bottom line. They would not be viable in a society that appreciates democracy and insists on being provided with the information they need to function as competent citizens. Citizenship should be viewed as both a right and a responsibility.

[wnylib]

53. But we can take note of what their priorities are

and express sadness that they care so little about the nation's future.

[paleotn]

86. News didn't use to be for very good goddamn reasons.

[Kaleva]

102. Yellow journalism was the name of the game

Newspapers used to be very partisan and they'd sensationalize stories to increase sales.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Fascists love monarchies. . . . nt

[bluecollar2]

28. I'm no fascist

And quite happy with my Monarchy.

[Blue_playwright]

31. :)

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. As may be, but monarchies are anti-democratic. I wish my elected leaders didn't have

I wish my elected leaders didn't have to make obsequious requests of "my" monarch. It's childish and a potential impediment and demeaning. The monarch did nothing to earn such a position.

[soldierant]

73. traditional and historica monarchies are absolutely anti-democratic

Constitutional monarchies are less so.

Ther real head of state is their prime minister.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

75. "Less" so is still too much so. Get rid of monarchy. It's even stupider than the Electoral College.n

[paleotn]

88. That they do.

Brings legitimacy if they can coopt the monarch. Italy for instance. Victor Immanuel "cubed". Fascism was simply monarchy by another term. In fact it harkened back to divine right. He was cool with it.

[jaxexpat]

10. They're so smart they forgot which country has the free speech written.....

Right into its constitution. Media is no very aware.

[SheltieLover]

11. Kicking for visibility

[Rebl2]

12. I wondered

the same thing. Two of the networks showed repeats and ABC showed game shows. There was no reason for them not to show it. Fairly sure it was still two months before the election which should not matter.

[Joinfortmill]

14. Too much money having too much influence.

[BigmanPigman]

17. Too much is wrong with this picture of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Ratings not truth or ethics or patriotism or respect or...........................

ONLY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[barbtries]

18. everything.

every fucking thing.

[Cha]

19. WTF US "MEDIA".. you DUMB-FASCISTSHITS!!!

the Internet & Social Media Should Put them out of Businness!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Then what

[SouthBayDem]

77. The same internet that spreads blatantly false info?

Unfortunately, leaving news to the whims of online random has not worked at all - as flawed as corporate media can be.

[Cha]

83. No.

[onetexan]

110. Precisely!! I've tuned off since the news of the queen's death has broken. This round the clock

obsession is nauseating and we are not english. If only they'd be that obsessed about carrying the relevant issues and news re: how democracy is slipping away day by day this country wldn't be the shitshow it is now.

Hi Cha!

[somaticexperiencing]

22. Raise your hand if you think the US news media does not respond adequately to your needs for

being informed?

Raise you hand if you think there should be more stringent requirements for broadcasting news. Like outright lying and especially if you have been shown you are lying and spreading misinformation should be out or cause you to lose your news license.Perhaps you could have some other license. Not news.

Well, first one anyway. The US news for years and years and years has drastically under-represented any perspective or point of view I would share.

[brooklynite]

56. Not raising hand...

there should be more stringent requirements for broadcasting news

I can't imagine any way you could apply that rule that 1) would be permitted by the First Amendment, and 2) couldn't be abused by a future Republican administration.

There is, thankfully, NO "news license"

[somaticexperiencing]

23. Raise your hand if you think the US news media does not respond adequately to your needs for

being informed?

Raise you hand if you think there should be more stringent requirements for broadcasting news. Like outright lying and especially if you have been shown you are lying and spreading misinformation should be out or cause you to lose your news license.Perhaps you could have some other license. Not news.

Well, first one anyway. The US news for years and years and years has drastically under-represented any perspective or point of view I would share.

[live love laugh]

66. Hand 🖐🏾 raised. The Republican Owned Media

is a threat to democracy.

[Warpy]

25. It's a constitutional monarchy, so he's not head of state

mostly figurehead of state.

They did it because it's all about ratings, ratings, and nothing but ratings.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. But they are indeed businesses that have to earn money

Right?

[Liberty Belle]

26. Both should have been televised live.

I agree that Biden's speech at Independence Hall, the birthplace of US liberty, warning against fascism should have been shown to all Americans.

The new King of England's first address is, however, also of interest to many people worldwide, and worth the few minutes it took to cut in and air it.

[UTUSN]

27. K&R

[spudspud]

29. I guess it'll be kinda funny in a way when the media helps...

bring about the end of democracy in this country, and they're all replaced by digital avatar AI's delivering whatever message of obedience the dystopian government commands.

[Collimator]

32. That would serve many of them right.

After all, the AI talking heads never get old or have bad hair days.

[Orrex]

33. We'll have do deal with a few weeks of our nation's abject worship of "the royals"

Then we can go back to pretending that we love democracy, after we've spent so much air time deifying these unelected hereditary figureheads.

[867-5309.]

34. All of the royalty BS is lost on me anyway

Just another example,

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. Well, it was a momentous occasion, no? Not a 5 years

too late thing? Right? trump should have been impeached and removed when his approval was at its lowest, in late 2017. On November 15, 2017, when brave Democrats brought it to the floor. #brokenrecord

[kelly1mm]

42. Simple really (but sad) The new King's speech will be more popular then President Bidens.

There really is no conspiracy theory ....

[treestar]

45. they would not broadcast it at all?

it reflects on the audience. They go for their bottom line, so they know which their audience is most interested in - which would get them the most viewers to see the ads.

[wryter2000]

49. If he lives to be as old as his mother

This won’t happen again for another 20 years. They should have covered it. Of course, they should have covered Biden’s speech, too. It isn’t either or.

[Polybius]

59. Yup, and he probably will live long

His mother lived till 96 and his father 99.

[paleotn]

90. Could we say the same about the current king of Thailand?

Ensconced in 2016. And I could care about as less. A pity the news media of my REPUBLIC can't get their heads screwed on straight.

[arlyellowdog]

57. We turned on CNN for the 1st time since the election to show the grandkids the pomp

Does anyone watch cable news for news? We told the kids the British monarchy is a tourist attraction and a relic of history. But I kind of hope that Charles will speak for action in regards to climate issues and youth issues. (And, yes, I put up signs for my local election today).

[Cha]

60. Good to see so many of whom

I've grown to respect over years agree that there is something very Wrong with the US "m$$$$$$$M".

[Cha]

61. The Good News Despite "Media Handwringing"..

Interestingly, 59% also agreed that the speech was "divisive," showing that all the media handwringing was influencing people's responses.

Link to tweet

New polling data makes it clear that, despite warnings that Biden's speech would backfire, it worked. Now 58% of Americans agree MAGA is a threat to democracy. An analysis of why it worked.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217142798#top

[TigressDem]

62. Ummm, the POINT WAS, WHY did they do that, but NOT BROADCAST OUR OWN President's Speech?

OP IS NOT about the monarch, it's about the American news stations IGNORING OUR OWN PRESIDENT but finding time for a foreign leader's speech.

So to my mind, it's a valid question for a place like DU.

[SallyHemmings]

64. Everything!

Sad about their Queen, not sure about the relevance about the rest of the crew.

Factory? Just wow. We won that dispute.

[live love laugh]

65. Gee‼️ I was attacked for saying this yesterday.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217139246

[Bread and Circuses]

67. Corporate Media supports MAGAts

The Corporate media appeases the MAGAts every single broadcast.

The News is not the news. It is 'programmed' to make money and to support the corporate elites.

[Retrograde]

95. My belief: their main anchors want to be sent to London for the funeral

So do the people about who make the decisions on what to air. If I were in their shoes I wouldn't mind that: spent a week or so in a great city on someone else's money. Spending time in a midwest Rust Belt City just doesn't have the same glamour.

You see the same thing with disaster coverage: my personal theory is that the closer to decent restaurants, the more national media coverage a hurricane/tornado/other national disaster gets.

[whathehell]

97. The people "who make the decisions" on what to air

aren't the ones actually going to the places with the "glamour" and good restaurants..Those would be their employees, the journalists.

[Brainfodder]

106. The BS predictable Republican response to the speech that they didn't listen to?

The auto-disparage anything democrats do routine is really getting

A bit disheartening that Republicans are all relentlessly coming across as pushing evil?
GOP=party of the top
DNC=party for all

That is a problem.