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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust had a thought! What if tfg actually issued himself a blanket pardon
knowing his stacked courts would save him, and that's why he stole those files with such carelessness?
Lettuce Be
(2,336 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I would love to read that he CANT pardon himself.
Anybody have that?
Irish_Dem
(46,915 posts)He will go ahead and do it, and get away with it.
Irish_Dem
(46,915 posts)People fall for it all the time.
kentuck
(111,078 posts)Since the Magna Carta, no one has been able to be the judge and jury of themselves.
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)This rat bastard is all about pushing boundaries for his own gain. Fight me.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)intrepidity
(7,294 posts)So there's that.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)intrepidity
(7,294 posts)but understanding what is happening does appeal to me
rampartc
(5,403 posts)if i were a prosecutor i might be reluctant to charge this guilty bazztad because alito and kavenaugh might just decide that the founders intended that the pardon power be absolute and since the constitution does not specifically say a president can't pardon himself ........
Voltaire2
(13,008 posts)other than impeachment. Consequently any other limits are derived from other sources and a court as abjectly corrupt as this one could make any damn decision they like.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Continuing to hold those documents after 1/20/21 is a continuing crime. Not that I believe a president can pardon his or herself. If so, what president wouldnt issue a pardon on the way out the door? The Supreme Court isnt going to allow Democrats to do that.
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)Current SCOTUS? Coin flip.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)If Trump has the power, any Democrat would, too.
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)"Crimeing" is not really in the D wheelhouse. Not that it *doesn't* happen, but not nearly as prevalent. I bet stats will back that up. And Rs know it.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Hes going to order his DOJ to arrest and charge. He tried it before, and was told no. That wont happen if he gets a revenge tour. . . er. . . second term.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)Let's focus on things that can actually happen.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)They were wrong.
rampartc
(5,403 posts)they will uphold trump's self pardon (which might just explain why garland seems reluctant to press charges).
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Voltaire2
(13,008 posts)and turn right around and deny a Biden self pardon. They are without shame a fully partisan court.
Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)else its a delay tactic. Yes it will go to SCOTUS and run out the clock maybe until DeSantis or some other clown is in the White House and gives him another pardon. Why would you think anything else? You think he would listen to some lawyer No sir, thats not how the system was meant to work?
MLAA
(17,277 posts)Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)karynnj
(59,501 posts)and lying about them and not returning them are things that happened AFTER the pardon.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)That DJT would NOT be able to transcribe said pardon on his own. That said, this particular Supreme Court majority would probably accept an actual Monoply Get out of Jail Free Card as proof of said pardon, so wtf knows...
Me.
(35,454 posts)captain queeg
(10,168 posts)You know he will, he is such a scammer. Then Faux and Co will Jump on board
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Ya hear me @FBI?
intrepidity
(7,294 posts)Could explain why his panties are in such a wad to get his precious docs back, eh?
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)nonsense.
Irish_Dem
(46,915 posts)They do as they please.