A shocking difference between Britain and the US

[malaise]

The Brits bring flowers for their dead royals while Americans bring them for victims of mass shootings.

[GoCubsGo]

1. Well, we don't have royals here, so there's that.

Unless you count all the celebrities and pro athletes, who get tons of flowers placed on their various monuments and buildings/stadiums, or at their homes when they die.


This was the Staples Center in L.A. after one of its employees died in a helicopter crash:

[malaise]

4. There should be no royals anywhere

But there should also be sensible gun laws.

That photo is beautiful but they never show those on TV- just the mass shooting flowers.

[GoCubsGo]

10. I agree, no royals, sensible gun laws. However....

We saw versions of that photo here on TV 24/7 in the days after Bryant died. It was almost as bad as what we're seeing with the Queen. Granted, when other celebrities die, they do show the various flower memorials, just not constantly, for the most part. It's just not true that they only show them for shooting victims.

[secondwind]

13. What a beautiful photograph....

[DenaliDemocrat]

2. Considering all of the death and destruction as well

As outright oppression caused directly by the “British Monarchy”, I’m calling bullshit.

[malaise]

3. I think you all know that I hate all royals everywhere they exist

Both are manifestations of sick societies.
Still it is there for all to see.
An outpouring of grief for entitled assholes who call you commoners and mourning for innocent people killed because of crazy ass gun laws.

[DenaliDemocrat]

7. Of course you blow by the point that the very reason

We have issues with mass shootings in America is directly attributable to the very monarchy you addressed. You get that right? Without shitty British colonialism and their fucked up monarchs the 2nd wouldn’t exist.

[stopdiggin]

17. we had the 2nd amend

for something like 200 years - (while engaging in both efforts of self defense - and in turn, absolutely indefensible acts of imperialism, aggression and occasional rank genocide). All this time, perhaps not without attendant problem or issue, but with nothing approaching the levels of self inflicted carnage we see today. Something (or some things)changed along the way - but it happened on this side of the Atlantic - and, this late in the day, it's rather absurd to claim it is all down to (or really has anything to do) with the British monarchy. We turned ourselves into this - not the poor Brits.

" .. directly attributable to the very monarchy you addressed."

Only in the sense of, "if a butterfly flaps its wings ... "

[DenaliDemocrat]

19. Or in the sense of

Only the king can hunt. Only the royals can possess weapons. The Brits, their shitty Church, and fucked up politics had/have a huge influence on the USA. Even today the Tory bullshit haunts us. Remember when Romney alluded to his “Saxon heritage”. Fuck the monarchy and fuck the Tories

[stopdiggin]

26. ancient history all

and blaming them for our current gun fetish (and bloodthirsty abandon) - smacks strongly of denial, and avoidance of responsibility.

[DenaliDemocrat]

27. If you don't think Tory bullshit doesn't leak into our politics

I don’t know what to tell you.

[stopdiggin]

30. my friend, Ronald Reagan and the tidal wave he swept into

American politics - had a 100 times more impact on British politics, than any Tory BS ever had over here. I'm sorry but that's just basic facts.

Respectfully. You've really got the cart pulling the horse here.
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[DenaliDemocrat]

31. And who was Ronnie'sright hand lady?

Uh huh. Fuck the monarchy. Fuck the Tories.

[Celerity]

22. Some seem to not fully understand the royal prerogative and the effects that even symbolic

manifestations play in British colonialism of all stripes.

I have been more than bit dismayed to see some of the whitewashing, rationalising, diminution of ultimate systemic responsibility, and yes, even some conditional defences of monarchist structures that have been occuring in some quarters.

I almost never use the term, but I have triggered, and not at all loathe to admit that have cried more than once.

I have lost a lot of faith in this virtual ecosphere, I feel like it has been exposed (for me, I cannot speak for anyone else) as a lot less safe than I presumed it to be.

[malaise]

23. THIS

I have been more than bit dismayed to see some of the whitewashing, rationalising, diminution of ultimate systemic responsibility, and yes, even some conditional defences of monarchist structures that have been occuring in some quarters.

[panader0]

5. In 2020 the US had 19,384 firearm homicides while the UK had 30.

The US also had some 24,000 gun suicides--not sure about the UK on this.
The US has roughly 120 guns per 100 people. I still refuse to own one, even living so close to the
"bad hombres" as tfg calls Mexicans. Many of my co-workers in the masonry trade were Mexican.

[malaise]

6. Our gun homicides are also way off the charts

and the vast majority of our Guns come from the USA.

[panader0]

8. Dem rude boys up on probation...

[malaise]

9. Too good

[Wounded Bear]

12. We may not officially have any royalty, but we treat celebrities and rich assholes like they are...

There seems to be some sick part of the human psyche that demands "royalty" of some sort.

I'm not sure our system is any better than your hereditary one.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

14. Yep. American Royals are the oligarchs elevated to the position by oligarch media.

British official royals suck all he air out of Hollywood and corporate royalty.

[Heather MC]

15. The royals are a drain on the British economy

Seems to me that people are brainwashed into believing these royals are important
They're just self appointed authoritarians, with absolutely no voting system.

I know America sucks but I'd rather have the right to vote than just be told who the next king will be FOR GENERATIONS 🤷🏾?♀️
🤦🏾?♀️🙄

[former9thward]

20. Most people from Britain say they are an asset to the economy.

They bring in hundreds of millions in tourist dollars. Of course someone who says "I know America sucks" may not recognize that.

[Heather MC]

21. Too bad they like to make the taxpayers pay for their existence🤷🏾‍♀️

Why not be a benefit to there country without taking money from the people?🤷🏾?♀️🙄

[DenaliDemocrat]

28. Most people in Britain voted for Brexit

Just saying

[former9thward]

29. I am not one of those who think I know the best for another country.

In fact we fought a revolution against Britain because they thought they knew what was best for the colonies.

[Upthevibe]

16. Kick. N/T

[spanone]

18. K&R

[Xoan]

24. Brits don't worship guns.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

25. HOW ABOUT THAT??!!!