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malaise

(268,913 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 12:53 PM Sep 2022

Not sure the American Revolution would have survived

the fawning of media hacks like Andrea Mitchell. If the USA could be independent, why not Scotland?
And yes my ancestors were given the name of a Scottish scoundrel. 😀😀😭😭😭

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Doc Sportello

(7,508 posts)
1. Think an independence vote will pass next time
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:03 PM
Sep 2022

I got to tour Holyrood House (official royal residence) in Edinburgh while the royal asses weren't in their chairs and got to talking to a Scottish docent/guard. He was all for Scottish independence and for the abolishment of the monarchy. As a descendant of the MacGregor clan, I enjoyed that.

Angleae

(4,482 posts)
11. It started after Queen Elizabeth's death (the first one)
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:24 PM
Sep 2022

Her heir, since she had no children, was James VI of Scotland. But that was only a partial thing (there was actually a war between the countries after that). A century later the parliaments of both countries agreed to merge.

https://pintsofhistory.com/2014/09/18/how-scotland-and-england-merged-in-the-first-place/

Sympthsical

(9,071 posts)
7. James I/VI inherited both the English and Scottish crowns.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:20 PM
Sep 2022

Because Elizabeth I didn't have a direct heir in 1603. They were still separate countries, but that got the ball rolling. The monarchies were now united. Over the next century, Scotland found itself deep in debt and began to feel it would be economically beneficial to merge with England. Couple in some Catholics with various claims to the Scottish throne were floating around and the Scots were super Calvinistic Protestant types, and there was a lot going for the idea at the time.

The English were just plain tired of the Auld Alliance (where Scotland had a penchant for siding with France every time there were fisticuffs).

So in 1707 both parliaments passed the Act of Union. It wasn't a military conquest or anything like that.

However, these are the broad broad strokes. There's more to it that makes for interesting reading.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
8. As I recollect (and I am going back 35 years to a high school history class)
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:22 PM
Sep 2022

Both countries were ruled by the same monarch through marriages. At the time of Queen Victoria, they decided to unite as one nation under her rule. I believe this was intended to be temporary at the time.

Take this with a grain of salt. It's been a long time and I might be confusing this with another long-ago history lesson.

JanMichael

(24,881 posts)
10. Thinking about moving to Scotland someday & joining the SNP.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:24 PM
Sep 2022

I also have Scottish ancestry on one side.

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