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Nevilledog

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Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:36 PM Sep 2022

Upset by New York Times expos on Hasidic schools? That's what GOP wants for all American kids






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The scandal over Hasidic schools that aren't educating children may feel like a local story to NYC. But it's really not, because the Christian right is using the same tactics nationwide to gut public schools — not just for their kids, but for all kids.

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Upset by New York Times exposé on Hasidic schools? That's what GOP wants for all American kids
Here's the GOP endgame: Tax-funded schools that teach religion and propaganda, but not literacy, math or history
10:29 AM · Sep 12, 2022


https://www.salon.com/2022/09/12/upset-by-the-new-york-times-expos-on-hasidic-schools-thats-what-wants-for-all-american-kids/

Over the weekend, New York Times reporters Eliza Shapiro and Brian Rosenthal published a carefully reported exposé about the private school system run by the Hasidic Jewish community in New York. For decades, this insular community — which largely separates itself from the wider world, including a large majority of Jewish people — has operated its own piecemeal system of religious schools or yeshivas whose goal is "to educate children in Jewish law, prayer and tradition — and to wall them off from the secular world." Students at these gender-segregated schools spend most of their classroom time on religious instruction, leaving them with very little basic education in science, math, history or other skills necessary in the modern world. The inevitable outcome, Shapiro and Rosenthal report, is that many are trapped "in a cycle of joblessness and dependency." At one school mentioned in the article, more than 1,000 students took New York State's standardized reading and math test, and not a single one passed.

Despite these failures, however, Shapiro and Rosenthal write that the schools "have found ways of tapping into enormous sums of government money, collecting more than $1 billion in the past four years alone."

In the social-media enclave of people who care about New York politics, this story got tons of attention, with people expressing understandable concern about misuse of government funds and children being denied the right to an education that is supposed to be guaranteed by the state. Outside the New York area, however, there probably wasn't much public interest. On its surface, this feels like a local not a national problem: The Hasidic community is relatively small (perhaps 200,000 people in all) and the schools in question are only found in Brooklyn and the northern New York suburbs.

Nonetheless, Americans across the country should pay close attention to this story, and should consider its national implications. The same political pressures and flaws in the educational system that allowed this problem to fester in New York are being exploited across the country by conservative activists, nearly all of whom are Christian rather than Jewish. Worse yet, these Christian activists aren't just interested in keeping their own kids away from secular education. They have grander ambitions, and would like to gut the education system as we know it, to make sure that no one's kids can enjoy the right to a free, robust public education.

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Upset by New York Times expos on Hasidic schools? That's what GOP wants for all American kids (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
Yup. Ruskie military is an example of what qpukes want to do to all our beloved institutions! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #1
Uneducated people are much easier to control and manipulate dlk Sep 2022 #2
+1 crickets Sep 2022 #4
+1 2naSalit Sep 2022 #5
My Business Partner Deep State Witch Sep 2022 #3
We lived near a Hasidic community in New York. phylny Sep 2022 #6
interesting story. well worth the reading in the times dembotoz Sep 2022 #7

dlk

(11,438 posts)
2. Uneducated people are much easier to control and manipulate
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:39 PM
Sep 2022

Strong public schools are a foundation of democracy and it’s clear why Republicans have been working so hard for decades to undermine our public schools.

Deep State Witch

(10,350 posts)
3. My Business Partner
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:42 PM
Sep 2022

Used to be a math teacher at a Reformed Jewish high school in Connecticut. She said that the kids who transferred in from these schools all had to have remedial math classes.

phylny

(8,353 posts)
6. We lived near a Hasidic community in New York.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:38 PM
Sep 2022

The community gets millions of dollars, not only in public assistance, but for a special education school. Their lawyers argued that the children would be scarred by being educated outside of their community.

dembotoz

(16,739 posts)
7. interesting story. well worth the reading in the times
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:51 PM
Sep 2022

I thought the focus was a little narrow.
We looked at a lutheran school years ago and were horrified to find out they taught that dinosaurs were a fraud.
We also looked into homeschool and omg what those folks were pushing.

pay attention to what is going on in your school.
I am not a crazy book burner but i do fear what is being taught as a school might go conservative to avoid controversy

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