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3Hotdogs

(12,210 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:28 PM Sep 2022

Regarding the surrender by Russian troops. Are they prisoners of war? Where will they be imprisoned

What happens to their sorry asses if/when they get sent back to Russia? Is there still a shortage of laborers in the salt mines? Polonium is in short supply.

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secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. I wouldn't be surprised if they would not want to go back home
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:36 PM
Sep 2022

Majority of them were homeless, derelicts, etc that Putin rounded up from the streets.

Regular folks in Russia try not to get caught up in the fight for Ukraine. They do this by paying up….$5,000 gets you off the hook .

Wicked Blue

(5,767 posts)
2. If they return to russia they'll probably get re-deployed to the front lines
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:38 PM
Sep 2022

Poot's a bit desperate about getting people to fight his war

Grins

(7,134 posts)
10. Good point.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:56 PM
Sep 2022

Russian army did that before.

They’d put them in the advance of an infantry assault at the point of a gun and be given a rifle to fight for their lives at the very last minute.

If they refused they were immediately shot.
Succeed? “Hey! Great! Now you get to do it again!”

Best option for Russian troops - surrender to Ukraine army and hope they treat you better than your own army would.

OAITW r.2.0

(23,862 posts)
3. The vast majority had no quarrel with Ukraine. Right now, I'd be hoping that Ukraine offers
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:40 PM
Sep 2022

a chance for Russian soldiers to commit to Ukraine. Whether the general population will accept this, I don't know.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
7. That is the problem, you have to weed out the rapists, murderers and thieves.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:49 PM
Sep 2022

Though they may have been stealing because their own military wasn't supplying them.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
5. This is what I hope for.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:47 PM
Sep 2022

And what about the Ukrainians that Putin has kidnapped and whisked off to SOMEWHERE in Russia? Over a million people or more, not sure.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,498 posts)
11. That probably depends on the individual
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 12:15 AM
Sep 2022

One thing to keep in mind is that Ukraine is fighting at least four types of soldiers:

1) Professional Russian contract soldiers (though professional should probably be said with air quotes).
2) Mercenaries from either Chechnya or the Wagner Group.
3) Volunteers from the self-proclaimed Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics (LPR and DPR).
4) Ukrainians forcibly conscripted from the occupied territories by Russia/LPR/DPR.

Russian contract soldiers must be given prisoner of war status under the Geneva conventions. Mercenaries must be treated humanely, but need not be given POW status; Ukraine is free to charge them with whatever Ukranian laws they violated (such as murder, attempted murder, or conspiracy to commit murder). The LPR and DPR are not internationally recognized nations, so I suspect nobody other than Russia would probably complain too loudly if Ukraine denied POW status to anyone who willingly joined their military.


Grins

(7,134 posts)
6. They are POW's.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:48 PM
Sep 2022

They aren’t going anywhere (and probably glad they aren’t.)

I would bivouac them in the open fields around the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.
Let their comrades shell them.
Let leaking radiation irradiate them.

If not there, on farms working to bring back Ukraine agriculture.

They can go back to Russia when ALL the Ukraine families forcibly sent to Russia are returned. Healthy.

What happens to them on their return? I don’t care. Maybe they will become members of the resistance.

keithbvadu2

(36,369 posts)
8. 'Where will they be imprisoned?'... Is that before or after repatriation?
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:53 PM
Sep 2022

'Where will they be imprisoned?'...

Is that before or after repatriation?

RockRaven

(14,784 posts)
13. Oh, Russia didn't say it was a war, it was a "special military operation" or whatever...
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 12:55 AM
Sep 2022

So they can't be POWs according to Russia's own account, right? Prosecute them as civilians, for murder, attempted murder, assault, conspiracy, larceny, vandalism, trespassing, etc.

Russia didn't respect international law/treaties in performing this invasion, Ukraine would be justified in choosing not to bind themselves by those same standards in how they handle their captured orcs.

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