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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes it feel like prices of groceries are skyrocketing??
That's because they are... an unheard of rise in grocery costs. More than a decade worth of increases in 2 years.
The current strategy at the Fed is to hobble the economy so much that people buy fewer groceries and thus, prices will drop... (only partially joking)
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)These bastards are fucking us over and getting away with it.
The ACTUAL amount of inflation is far less than half of what they are doing to prices.
For instance
https://www.businessinsider.com/defense-contractors-and-their-line-of-household-goods-2012-6#texas-instruments-was-also-making-missiles-until-a-few-years-ago-6
The same corp that makes weapons makes stuff you have in your household. Corporate America sells groceries. THEY Are the ones adding to the prices.
WarGamer
(12,369 posts)The food producers? Processors? Packagers? Distributors? Grocers?
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)edhopper
(33,488 posts)Did it really double to make potato chips and corn chips? Because the prices doubles. It's gouging pure and simple.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)edhopper
(33,488 posts)the stores are just passing on their increase.
Demsrule86
(68,477 posts)I buy meat, chicken, gluten-free bread (only luxury), potatoes, rice, make or buy pasta depending on the price (gluten-free), and vegetables. I buy a couple of gluten-free macarons or cream-filled brownies at the bakery when I shop weekly. If I want tortilla chips, I take corn tortillas and throw them in the fryer or bake them.
edhopper
(33,488 posts)mostly we by raw food and shop at Trader Joes for a lot of things. But I notice the prices and sales at my local grocery. For example, I notice some brands of Pasta Sauce have close to double, tomatoes, not so much.
Demsrule86
(68,477 posts)have great spaghetti sauce cheap. And Sams and BJ's too.
edhopper
(33,488 posts)but if I can get Rao's on sale...
jimfields33
(15,703 posts)Grocery stores have a margin of about two percent. They are not living off the hog. They are barely hanging on.
edhopper
(33,488 posts)are the manufacturers, not the grocers.
jimfields33
(15,703 posts)FSogol
(45,453 posts)emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)IcyPeas
(21,842 posts)5 bucks for a bag of popcorn?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)In this case, Ovrille Redenbacher
Conagra Brands Inc
NYSE: CAG
edhopper
(33,488 posts)skyrocketing. Gouging!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)it is the libs fault.
edhopper
(33,488 posts)hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)companies are going to lose consumers for some of their products permanently. I know I am rethinking some items that I've purchased/consumed for many years because the % increases (and there were several such over a few weeks) was so ridiculous.
Obviously there is not the choice for all items, though.
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)I know some things have risen, but in my area of NE OK, more than a few food prices are falling. Keep in mind they are still a bit higher than pre-pandemic, but they are starting to be more reasonable. Fruits and vegetables have finally started to come back down. A few staples, certain breads and cheeses, even milk, are coming down, and not as "sale" items.
MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)I suggest you consider other stores like Aldi or Grocery Outlet if you have them and are convenient.
The prices are MUCH cheaper. You likely will NOT get the specific brand/product you want, but we're not too fussy.
Also, try getting apps for stores like Safeway. I am not a big fan of apps for privacy and other reasons, but they do offer digital discounts for certain products, making them reasonable.
Just a thought.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Hazel Nut Coffee, my favorite, at least a dollar less. At times $2.
Their Blueberry bagels are big, crust, yet soft $1.99 for 6 Cream chees,$1 less. Then I got to Walmart for other things.
I refuse to pay the jacked up prices. Find something else!
Earth-shine
(3,960 posts)The most immediate way to deal with runaway inflation is to shop around.
Aldi's prices seem to be about the same as they were a few months ago.
When I lived in North Carolina, I avidly shopped at the Grocery Outlet. Now, I live in Florida. No GO.
jimfields33
(15,703 posts)Still cheaper then Publix but they are higher.
Earth-shine
(3,960 posts)The particular almond milk, coffee creamer, canned goods, and fresh produce seem to be about the same price.
I'm in southern Florida where Publix is king. Prices are most certainly up for Publix.
MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)than the Krogers and Safeways.
durablend
(7,456 posts)Sogo
(4,986 posts)are causing a supplyside shortage.
More demand than supply, means higher prices....
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Every time I drink I break out in handcuffs.
Demsrule86
(68,477 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Trust me, I know most of the jokes
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)I actually kinda wish I was in your shoes, with your body chemistry, believe it or not.
Cause sometimes, actually getting in trouble ... prompts change.
Somehow I've managed to avoid any serious consequences (thought the Doc ain't happy with my liver numbers) other than a DUI on the night before my college graduation in the early 90's.
And that wasn't even my fault, the girl in my car started blabbering in a really obviously drunken way about how her brother is a sheriff or some shit. If she wasn't there I swear I'd have walked that time too.
I blew .12 (at the time .10 was limit) but ... I was pretty much fine. It was the end of college, I had quite the tolerance. Not saying it was fine to be driving, but if it'd just have been me ... very confident I'd have been let go. I passed every one of their tests, it's even in the record. Only got pulled over cause my tags were mildly expired, for the record.
OTTH, My BFF since 4th grade he was more like what you're talking about and he's been sober from booze for like 20 years cause he's terrified of what may happen.
Pretty sure he'll outlive me in the end cause booze makes him act crazy but it doesn't to me, and he quit because of it. I have done that before too, a few times, but not like him
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Its up to you
But like in the airplane movie if you decide to quit drinking now would be a pretty shitty time ha ha
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berniesandersmittens
(11,343 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)...And I can't afford it!
berniesandersmittens
(11,343 posts)I'm definitely feeling a crunch on groceries.
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)cost $160 yesterday. We have cut out a lot of things we used to buy and dont buy a lot of prepared foods or snacks, and its still ridiculously expensive.
WarGamer
(12,369 posts)But in the early 90's I used to FILL a grocery cart to the top, with a few 6=packs of Coke hanging from the metal rails... canned, packaged, fresh meats and veggies... everything
Around $100
Demsrule86
(68,477 posts)jmbar2
(4,865 posts)Some items have increased, but the staples not enough that I'm feeling it.
Demsrule86
(68,477 posts)And we eat well.
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)Bacon is still outrageous here in Columbus.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Stores have a pattern of sales. Stock up.
edhopper
(33,488 posts)but ice cream has doubled? Hmmm?
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)For the last six weeks the popular ice cream (chocolate chip) is out of stock alot but now all the gallons are gone fast
Buying by the quart is way more expensive and now that seems to be short stocked
Samrob
(4,298 posts)It's because they can. And as long as our farmers are being paid to not grow a damn thing useful to our economy it will only get worse. I try my best to buy produce from local farmers. It's all about the pricing power. America needs to go on a diet. It will help in two ways: we might be healthier, cutting costs of medical care and we may be able to drive down some of the prices of food that is unnecessarily high.
JT45242
(2,252 posts)If you look at the long term trend from about 1975 to the present the slope of the line is really close to current value if you extend through the aberration of the great recession and covid.
It is a little above the line but with a small regression, the line will just have normalized..
Comparing to the great depression of prices during covid gives a false impression.
progree
(10,894 posts)increase is a straight line for example. On a linear scale like this one, something that is roughly increasing about the same percent a year will always have an ever-increasing slope.
That said, over the past 3 years, from August 2019 (pre-pandemic) to August 2022, there has been a 22.3% increase in Food At Home -- that is a 6.93% average annual increase, which is much higher than the average over the past several decades (from August 1972 to August 2022, 50 years, it comes to 3.94% average). The big increase in the last 3 years overall can't all be blamed on comparing to a Covid low baseline. Actually none of it can, since I'm comparing to a definitely pre-Covid baseline.
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SAF11
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)That and shooting people. We're good at that too.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I don't eat that much myself, but with all the critters I feed....just yikes.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)dweller
(23,616 posts)$44.95 for 2 lb bag 😳
✌🏻
Good thing Im allergic to shellfish
Bettie
(16,076 posts)For example: Casey's a gas station chain in Iowa
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2022/09/08/gas-prices-iowa-big-profits-caseys-general-stores-ankeny/8000951001/
Fuel sales led the way, with the company earning 45 cents on every gallon sold up 10 cents per gallon over last year, according to its Wednesday report.
NOTE: They EARNED 10 cents more per gallon. They raised prices more than the new cost. They made plenty before, but they saw a way to make more and blame someone else for their price gouging.
And they aren't alone, most of them are doing it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-25/us-corporate-profits-soar-taking-margins-to-widest-since-1950
A measure of US profit margins has reached its widest since 1950, suggesting that the prices charged by businesses are outpacing their increased costs for production and labor.
After-tax profits as a share of gross value added for non-financial corporations, a measure of aggregate profit margins, improved in the second quarter to 15.5% -- the most since 1950 -- from 14% in the first quarter, according to Commerce Department figures published Thursday.
The data show that companies overall have comfortably been able to pass on their rising cost of materials and labor to consumers. With household budgets squeezed by the rising cost of living, some firms have been able to offset any slip in demand by charging more to the customers theyve retained -- though others like Target Corp. saw their inventories swell and were forced to discount prices in order to clear them.
US inflation has surged this year and stood at 8.5% in July, not far short of the previous months four-decade high. Federal Reserve officials have pointed to rising wages as one of the big risks that could keep inflation entrenched. But some economists say that historically elevated profit margins mean theres room for businesses to accommodate worker demands for better pay without setting off a wage-price spiral.
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)Gas is 3.29 at Costco... Picked up a dozen eggs for 99 cents at HyVee yesterday..Of course we are Pescatarians and usually that is canned Salmon and wild tuna for us..
Lancero
(3,002 posts)I changed up my diet years back.. Cut out heavily processed shit-food laden with HFCS, adopted a healthier, vegan based, diet. Actually following portion sizes. No meat. No eggs. No dairy. All that stuff that's currently jumping up in price.
Between that and doing this odd thing called cooking, my food costs got cut down to a third. So even with all the recent price jumps, I still haven't hit what I was spending five years back.
The price of food hasn't increased so much as the price of poor choices has.
MissB
(15,804 posts)I try to cook mostly from scratch. I grow a garden, I can and freeze and dehydrate my veggies, herbs and fruit. I raise hens too, for eggs.
It certainly is much easier to grab a can of beans from the grocery store. But I buy beans in bulk, vacuum seal them in jars and then pressure cook them in an instant pot as needed.
Tonight Im making a stew using some chickpeas that I cooked this weekend, some potatoes, onions, tomatoes and New Zealand spinach - all from the garden- as well as a couple of slices of home-pickled jalapeños. Ordering out would be easier of course, but Im looking forward to the smoky chickpea stew.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)Ron Green
(9,822 posts)World War 2 (and in some ways, even longer.)
This bubble gave us the Highest standard of living in the world, but didnt tell us the true cost of this consumption was offloaded onto poor people around the world, and mostly onto our only home, the earth itself.
Now the bubble is bursting, and yall acting like the corporations are stealing from us more than they always did.
Sympthsical
(9,041 posts)Even Costco has been bad with this. Eggs in particular.
All I can think about are people who live paycheck to paycheck or on fixed assistance like SS or EBT.
How are they managing this?