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hlthe2b

(101,701 posts)
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:15 PM Sep 2022

**Breaking** Ken Starr (Former Independent Counsel investigated Clinton) has died

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/ken-starr-dead.html

Ken Starr, Independent Counsel in Clinton Investigation, Dies at 76

Mr. Starr’s family said he died of complications from surgery.

WASHINGTON — Ken Starr, the independent counsel whose investigation uncovered President Bill Clinton’s affair with a White House intern and led to his impeachment for lying under oath and obstructing justice, died on Tuesday at a hospital in Texas. He was 76.

Mr. Starr’s family said in a statement that he died of complications from surgery at Baylor St. Luke’s Medical Center in Houston but gave no further details.


More to follow, but posted without further comment...

CNN"s take:
Starr, who was a member of former President Donald Trump’s defense team during Trump’s first impeachment, also served as president of Baylor University from 2010 to 2016.

Baylor President Linda Livingstone said in a statement Tuesday that “Judge Starr was a dedicated public servant and ardent supporter of religious freedom that allows faith-based institutions such as Baylor to flourish.”
--snip--
A conservative Republican, Starr’s investigations into Clinton began when he was appointed by a federal appeals panel in 1994 as an independent counsel in the probe of the then-President and Hillary Clinton’s involvement in the Whitewater real estate scandal. The Clintons ultimately were not prosecuted in that case, but Starr’s investigation in the Clintons’ dealings later expanded to include Paula Jones’ allegations of sexual harassment, and that inquiry led to Starr leading the investigation into the President’s affair with Monica Lewinsky.

The Lewinsky affair ultimately resulted in Clinton being impeached on two charges of lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice, though he was acquitted by the Senate in February 1999 and served out the remainder of his term.
--snip--

Starr rejected accusations that his pursuit of Clinton was politically motivated.

“I was assigned to do a job by the attorney general, and that was to find out whether crimes were committed in this (Paula Jones) sexual harassment lawsuit,” Starr said at the time. “The whole idea of equal justice under law means that you’ve got to play by the rules. It has nothing to do with the underlying subject matter. You just tell the truth.”

He stepped down from independent counsel position in October 1999, citing the “intense politicization of the independent counsel process.”

Starr is survived by his wife, Alice, whom he married in 1970, and three children.
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**Breaking** Ken Starr (Former Independent Counsel investigated Clinton) has died (Original Post) hlthe2b Sep 2022 OP
Not gonna be missed. azlatina Sep 2022 #1
Almost there to get my free cup of coffee. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #18
Good BradAllison Sep 2022 #2
I thought I heard a creaking sound EYESORE 9001 Sep 2022 #3
. Autumn Sep 2022 #4
Good montanacowboy Sep 2022 #5
One less asshole in the world... mikeysnot Sep 2022 #6
I was taught that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #7
And on that note... Montauk6 Sep 2022 #9
Yeah but I never was taught that, fuck him. dem4decades Sep 2022 #20
You do you... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #22
"More to follow" - lol Effete Snob Sep 2022 #8
Honestly ItsjustMe Sep 2022 #10
He was a piece of shit not only for the whole Clinton thing, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #11
Thoughts and prayers. kskiska Sep 2022 #12
Adios Perv.. jalan48 Sep 2022 #13
Good riddance to bad rubbish. n/t ms liberty Sep 2022 #14
Good riddance to a disgusting pervert. Goodheart Sep 2022 #15
I'll quote Elvis Costello 303squadron Sep 2022 #16
I see Baylor President Linda Livingstone is overlooking Starr's coverup of sexual misconduct MagickMuffin Sep 2022 #17
It's not cherry-picking.... TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #21
I noticed WaPo doesn't have Comments active under the article. Probably feared too many... Pacifist Patriot Sep 2022 #19
I have such a massive sad. belpejic Sep 2022 #23
Ted Olson has done a lot to redeem himself. hlthe2b Sep 2022 #27
Uh Huh belpejic Sep 2022 #29
Tell that to the LGBTQ community and DACA recipients. He has done some good things, that's all. hlthe2b Sep 2022 #32
Good for him. dalton99a Sep 2022 #24
But Brett Kavanaugh, who wrote lewd memos for him, will carry on. Tanuki Sep 2022 #38
No one will miss him * more. dchill Sep 2022 #25
Stepped down because of the "intense politicization of the independent counsel process"? JHB Sep 2022 #26
I read somewhere that he was such a literally rabid Clinton-hater Aristus Sep 2022 #28
I felt a disturbance in the Force PJMcK Sep 2022 #30
Monica Lewinsky's response. She is a much better person than I am NYC Liberal Sep 2022 #31
Classy, Monica... Good on her hlthe2b Sep 2022 #33
I don't know if I could have responded with as much grace. madaboutharry Sep 2022 #44
. . . hatrack Sep 2022 #34
He can fucking rot. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #35
Bye. yardwork Sep 2022 #36
mom said if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Takket Sep 2022 #37
Bye! liberal N proud Sep 2022 #39
Meh. ismnotwasm Sep 2022 #40
May he receive everything he deserves. niyad Sep 2022 #41
Who's having what for dinner? mcar Sep 2022 #42
And a lifetime of disservice comes to an end gratuitous Sep 2022 #43
Oh well. So, what's for dinner tonight? ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #45
One less disgusting Rethug in Texas. walkingman Sep 2022 #46
Good riddance to bad rubbish. oswaldactedalone Sep 2022 #47
Someone should pour wine on his grave every day... mackdaddy Sep 2022 #48
Good. I hope it was painful. The first special prosecutor quit saying that there was no there, he Botany Sep 2022 #49
Dirt bag, he covered up for baylor football players and coaches RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2022 #50
I agree with the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #51
+1 hlthe2b Sep 2022 #53
I'm sure the rapists at Baylor miss him. Solly Mack Sep 2022 #52
No, No, No RobinA Sep 2022 #54
Nothing cheers up this place like the death of an adversary fescuerescue Sep 2022 #55

EYESORE 9001

(25,811 posts)
3. I thought I heard a creaking sound
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:16 PM
Sep 2022

It was the gates of hell swinging open to receive a very special minion.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
8. "More to follow" - lol
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:18 PM
Sep 2022

I doubt it. In what way is this "breaking" news to which one would expect there to be further information? It's not like they are looking for the person who did it.

He's dead. That's it. It's over. It is not "breaking".

FoxNewsSucks

(10,375 posts)
11. He was a piece of shit not only for the whole Clinton thing,
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:22 PM
Sep 2022

but for helping Beer-Bong Brett Kavanaugh and Jeffrey Epstein.

I also think he was involved in one of those cases against a student suspended for protesting in favor of legal weed despite doing it on their own time and ignored abuse at Baylor, but can't find it right now, every search result for several pages is a link to his death or Whitewater bs.

Fuck him, I hope he rots in hell.

303squadron

(519 posts)
16. I'll quote Elvis Costello
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:31 PM
Sep 2022

"That's when they finally put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down"

MagickMuffin

(15,886 posts)
17. I see Baylor President Linda Livingstone is overlooking Starr's coverup of sexual misconduct
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:34 PM
Sep 2022



Court filing claims Starr and other Baylor leaders helped student accused of sexual misconduct

A motion filed this week in an ongoing federal lawsuit against Baylor University alleges that high-ranking officials – including former president and chancellor Ken Starr – helped a student they knew had been accused of sexual harassment.

The accused student, the motion claims, had a close relationship with Starr and other Baylor leaders, and was employed on campus in a capacity where he oversaw female students and worked on Title IX initiatives.

The motion was filed Tuesday evening by former Democratic state Rep. Jim Dunnam and Houston attorney Chad Dunn, who are representing several anonymous women who have sued Baylor on the grounds that the school has failed to comply with Title IX, the federal statute that bans discrimination against women on campus.

Starr could not immediately be reached for comment Wednesday. He was president of the university from 2010 until last year, when he resigned under pressure in the fallout of a scandal over how the university handled allegations of sexual assault among students.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12/20/court-filing-claims-starr-and-other-baylor-leaders-helped-student-accu/



I guess one gets to cherry pick which sexual misconducts one finds worthy of investigating!



Pacifist Patriot

(24,647 posts)
19. I noticed WaPo doesn't have Comments active under the article. Probably feared too many...
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:36 PM
Sep 2022

"so what" and "myeh" commentary.

hlthe2b

(101,701 posts)
27. Ted Olson has done a lot to redeem himself.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:53 PM
Sep 2022

His work in support of Gay Marriage, support of DACA, and refusal to defend Trump--among his more recent "accomplishments."

Yes, I won't forget Bush v Gore, but he's certainly more redeemable than Starr.

hlthe2b

(101,701 posts)
32. Tell that to the LGBTQ community and DACA recipients. He has done some good things, that's all.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 06:05 PM
Sep 2022

Prevailing in Obergefell v Hodges with David Boies was masterful.

Maybe read ab it about it here:
https://www.aspenideas.org/sessions/the-supreme-courts-marriage-equality-ruling-the-most-consequential-ruling-in-our-lifetimes

Tanuki

(14,893 posts)
38. But Brett Kavanaugh, who wrote lewd memos for him, will carry on.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 06:24 PM
Sep 2022
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/kavanaugh-wanted-ken-starr-to-ask-bill-clinton-these-wildly-lewd-questions/

..."A 1998 memo released on Monday as part of a Freedom of Information Act request from the nonprofit group Fix the Court shows just how much specific, intimate detail Kavanaugh sought to elicit from Clinton about his extramarital affair.

In the memo to Starr, Kavanaugh revealed significant hostility towards Clinton regarding his behavior with Lewinsky and recommended that Starr play hardball when he eventually interviewed Clinton. Kavanaugh wrote:"

....

(I will spare further details, but it is all at the link)


JHB

(37,128 posts)
26. Stepped down because of the "intense politicization of the independent counsel process"?
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:50 PM
Sep 2022

That intense politicization was the only reason he was made SC to the Whitewater investigation. By design, and he knew it before he ever took the job.

He got the job because his predecessor, Robert Fiske, had investigated and had not come up with the "right" answer. So conservative operative judges in the courts (loooooooong before Trump) replaced him with someone more amenable to conservative propaganda needs, namely the starry-eyed Starr.

Aristus

(66,075 posts)
28. I read somewhere that he was such a literally rabid Clinton-hater
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:54 PM
Sep 2022

that he would turn red in the face and foam at the mouth if you mentioned Bill Clinton's name.

I know that's not an exaggeration, because I actually knew a guy who did the exact same thing. Imagine having nothing better to do with one's life than hate someone so uselessly.

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
31. Monica Lewinsky's response. She is a much better person than I am
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 06:05 PM
Sep 2022
Monica Lewinsky (she/her) @MonicaLewinsky

as i’m sure many can understand, my thoughts about ken starr bring up complicated feelings… but of more importance, is that i imagine it’s a painful loss for those who love him.

5:45 PM · Sep 13, 2022 ·Twitter for iPhone



hlthe2b

(101,701 posts)
33. Classy, Monica... Good on her
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 06:07 PM
Sep 2022

I can't quite muster the same, but I do recognize that he had people who cared.

Takket

(21,421 posts)
37. mom said if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

Fuck that guy all the way to hell.

Moms aren't always right

mackdaddy

(1,520 posts)
48. Someone should pour wine on his grave every day...
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 07:38 PM
Sep 2022

Hope they don't mind if it passes through the kidneys first.

Botany

(70,281 posts)
49. Good. I hope it was painful. The first special prosecutor quit saying that there was no there, he
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 08:23 PM
Sep 2022

having an affair @ the time he was going after President Clinton, and he hid rapes and sexual
violence by football players @ Baylor.

BTW he might have very well have stopped President Clinton from getting bin Laden and stopped
am Al Gore Presidency too.


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