NYT making issue out of Pres. Biden traveling to vote in his state

[bigtree]

The New York Times @nytimes 4h
President Biden voted in the Delaware primary election on Tuesday.
The process involved a hasty announcement to the press, multiple motorcades and two jet flights.

James @JamesSNYC
Only the New York Times could make it sound like it was a bad thing that President Biden voted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/biden-vote-delaware-primary.html

[Ocelot II]

1. Presidents can't go anywhere without an entourage

because the Secret Service won't allow it. He can't just hop on Amtrak any more, but he probably would if he could. I suppose he could go to Florida every weekend to play golf....

[dchill]

2. And I'm SURE Trump would have just hitchhiked.

[WA-03 Democrat]

23. True story

He rode his tricycle most the way and then a big wheel for the last 20 feet.

[dchill]

24. Littering and speeding all they way.

Another true story.

[Me.]

3. But Not Bothered When tfg WEnt Golfing Nymerous Times

[Brainfodder]

4. Media phony outrage Biden machine in full swing looking like cover for TFG?

Those behind this BS should be a little more cautious, putting out their necks for that clown, STILL?

PERIL...

[dchill]

25. Taking a breather from the Queen.

To cleanse the palate.

[Martin68]

37. Sorry, there was no phony outrage at all. The NYT actually said it was normal. The headline is wrong

Read the article or see my quotes below. Let's give "the media" a break.

[CentralMass]

5. What bullshit.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

18. The American Media will lose Billions in lost political ads if...both sides not brought closer!

Yes, even the full throttle fascist side needs lovin…the logic is plain, if one of two parties in a nation collapses who wants to pay for political ads then?

Meet your Two Party State!

[Omnipresent]

6. How dare he!!!

[SledDriver]

7. What then? He should've hitchhiked? Taken an Uber?

How many times did TFG have motorcades and jet flights to go golfing?

[treestar]

8. A good example set

to vote in the primary on a mid-term year.

[Historic NY]

9. Big Fu-king deal NYT, he didn't fly to Florida. Every American has the right to vote. Did you forget

Every American has the right to vote. Did you forget.

[Martin68]

38. No, the NYT didn't forget. The headline is wrong. The NYT said no such thing.

[Voltaire2]

10. Desperately seeking the middle ground

between theocratic fascism and center-right neoliberalism.

[Merlot]

13. This.

[betsuni]

19. What is "center-right neoliberalism"?

[Voltaire2]

28. Redundant.

Neoliberalism is always center right.

[betsuni]

30. Then it would nice if Democrats weren't continually called neoliberals as an insult.

The party is not center right, hasn't shifted right. That was extremely popular for years as a way to convince would-be Democratic voters that both sides are the same. Fact.

"The word is now ubiquitous, popping up in almost any socialist polemic against the Democratic Party or the center left. Obama's presidency? It was 'the last gasp of neoliberalism.' Why did Hillary lose? It was her neoliberalism. Paul Krugman and Joseph Stiglitz? Neoliberals both. ... The ubiquitous epitaph is intended to separate its target -- liberals -- from the values they claim to espouse. By re-labeling self-identified liberals as 'neoliberals,' their critics on the left accuse them of betraying the historic liberal cause.

"The uselessness of 'neoliberalism' as an analytic tool is the exact same thing that makes it a factional messaging device for the left. The 'neoliberalism' rubric implicates the Democratic Party in the rightward drift of American politics that in reality has been caused by the Republican Party's growing radicalism. It yokes the two parties together into a capitalist Establishment against which socialism is the only clear alternative."

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/how-neoliberalism-became-the-lefts-favorite-insult.html

[Voltaire2]

31. The Democratic Party is a center right party.

And has been for decades. It has a minority center left faction.

[betsuni]

32. How? Could you please give examples? The whole party, not a few people.

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There will be no answer because it's not true.

[Voltaire2]

33. Sure, the ACA is a prime example of

a center-right version of universal healthcare. It drew from what Romney did in Massachusetts and the earlier proposals from Republicans like Bob Dole.

[betsuni]

34. ACA is popular and works even if it has similarities to a nineties Republican plan.

It saved lives.

The Republican Party in the early nineties was not the radicalized one of today. If an idea works, doesn't matter where it comes from. That's a purity test. The ACA passed the House with a public option. Republicans had no say in what was in the bill and did not vote for it. It is not right-wing plan and the claim that the Democratic Party has been shifting right for decades has no evidence to back it up. Populists of course use it to discourage voting for Democrats, it only helps Republicans.

[Voltaire2]

41. Huh? What does that have to do with the ideological

position of a policy like the ACA?

I no longer know what you are trying to discuss.

I’ll try again: the Democratic Party majority faction in congress is center right. It’s ideology is derived from neoliberalism and favors deregulation and market based solutions to just about everything. It was the post Reagan bipartisan economic policy consensus. That consensus of course fell apart as the Republican Party radicalized into an obstructionist authoritarian anti-democratic party, but the majority position of the Democratic Party has remained the same.

[betsuni]

44. No.

NEOLIBERAL IDEOLOGY LOL.

[Martin68]

39. The neoliberal meme means nothing. It's a red herring.

[Voltaire2]

42. It's not a meme.

It is an ideological perspective on the role of government with respect to the economy. It is a ideology supported by many academic institutions, starting with the University of Chicago school of economics, Milton Friedman etc.

Dismissing the ideological basis of the ruling political parties of most of the developed world as a ‘meme’ is odd, but whatever.

[Martin68]

43. I call it a meme because it has long been used to indiscriminately and carelessly to label a

multitude of political stances, ideologies, and people. Certain liberals have a tendency to label other liberals with whom they disagree as "neoliberals," with no consideration of what they actually mean by the term. While the term may have once had a particular meaning, it has long been lost in the haze of internet squabbling and name-calling.

[betsuni]

45. No. It doesn't mean anything as an insult for the Democratic Party.

[Voltaire2]

46. It's an accurate descriptive term

For the dominant ideological theories of modern capitalist societies.

Both political parties adhere to some form of it and tend to differ on the policy details, such as tax rates, while agreeing on broad principles like favoring market solutions over public institutions or government regulations.

[betsuni]

48. The U.S., like EU countries, are capitalist.

[Voltaire2]

49. Well yes.

Their economies are a mix of public and private enterprises that primarily use markets to set prices.

The ideological underpinnings of government in capitalist systems can cover a wide range, from social democrats to neoliberals in mainstream political parties, and more radical rightwing libertarians and fascists on the right and assorted socialists on the left.

In the USA neoliberalism is the best descriptive term for the ideological position of the dominant faction of the Democratic Party, and that used to also be true for the Republican Party. The majority faction of the Republicans is now best described as fascist.

[Celerity]

27. +1

[zuul]

11. Did they expect him to ride his bike?

[GoCubsGo]

12. Maybe Biden didn't trust DeJoy's USPS to get his absentee ballot in on time.

Hey New York Times...STFU, you goddamn hypocrites.

[Rebl2]

14. Likely so

[brooklynite]

15. What in story makes it sound "bad"?

In a last-minute move that demonstrated how the presidency complicates even the most mundane of tasks, Mr. Biden and the first lady, Jill Biden, flew home from the White House to Wilmington, Del., arriving at the polls less than an hour before voting in the state’s primary contests ended at 8 p.m. About an hour after they landed, they climbed back aboard Air Force One and jetted back to Washington.

The trip had not been on the president’s publicly released schedule. But the pilgrimage back to his home state to cast a vote is a familiar one for sitting presidents, and typically affords an opportunity to connect with voters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/biden-vote-delaware-primary.html

I'm sensing a lot of people started from "of course the NYT is biased" and never bothered to read the story.

Of course "James" is entitled to his personal opinion.
Professional with sense of humor. Cooking, photo, art enthusiast.

[onecaliberal]

16. The bloated tick flew himself and his family all over the world costing taxpayers

Millions. Fuck the fascist media. We see them.

[Midnight Writer]

17. FOXNews is running with this. Says he doesn't trust mail-in voting because he knows it is rigged.

[Traildogbob]

20. How many

Golf trips to his courses has he been on charging us hundreds of thousands each time?
I would like to see the cashed checks trump got as the salary he refused to take!

[LymphocyteLover]

21. OMG! It was hasty!

[Snackshack]

22. Ever since...

… the Jayson Blair incident the NYT has gone downhill. Not long after he got busted for plagiarizing his stories Judith Miller started her beating of the drums for war in Iraq.

The blatant lack of objectivity and fairness in the times reporting of the GOP vs the Dems is on full display. The stark contrast in the way the Times framed stories of DT vs the framing of stories for President Biden is horrible.

[Martin68]

40. False alarm! See my post below.

[Martin68]

26. Fake news! The NYT DID NOT MAKE AN ISSUE of Biden's trip to vote. Here's a quote from the article:

"The trip had not been on the president’s publicly released schedule. But the pilgrimage back to his home state to cast a vote is a familiar one for sitting presidents, and typically affords an opportunity to connect with voters.

Former President Barack Obama traveled to Illinois to vote in the 2014 midterm races while helping campaign for Gov. Pat Quinn. Mr. Biden also voted early from Wilmington during the 2020 presidential election, while his rival, former President Donald J. Trump, cast an early vote from West Palm Beach, Fla."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/biden-vote-delaware-primary.html?searchResultPosition=7

[BlackSkimmer]

35. Thank you.

Smh.

[Samrob]

29. When are ordinary working people going to wake up and realize that the media is really set up to

support the wealthy who get money from unearned income that is produced and taxed at the workers level, while their unearned income is taxed at a much lower rate, if at all, and that workers tax dollars are spent by the wealthy to make more wealth for them and them alone? The latest scam involving Bret Farve is an object lesson. For an even grittier in-depth look at how this privileged system works, I highly recommend a book by Paul Pringle called "Bad City." Everything, from drugs, law-enforcement, backroom corruption of colleges and universities, use of public funds for private gain, blackmail, etc. It will blow your mind.

[Martin68]

36. Except that the headline was wrong and "the media" didn't criticize Biden at all. I fact,

"the media" pointed out it is a tradition for president's to return home to vote. All this outrage about absolutely nothing!

[ZonkerHarris]

47. Biden voted while Trump golfs.