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Jilly_in_VA

(9,962 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 11:45 AM Sep 2022

Trump Fan in Clown Wig Threatens to Kill All Democrats in a Dairy Queen

A former President Donald Trump supporter from Pennsylvania was arrested after storming a Dairy Queen with a loaded handgun while wearing a clown wig.

During the incident, he claimed he was going to “kill all the Democrats because Trump was still president.”

Jan Stawovy, a 61-year-old from Hunker, Pennsylvania, told police who confronted him that he “talked to God” and was a “prophet” who was working undercover with the Pennsylvania State Police on a drug sting operation.

He also told officers that he was working to “restore Trump as president” according to the affidavit reviewed by local TV station WTAJ.

Stawovy was arrested and police subsequently found two more loaded handguns in his car along with 62 rounds of ammunition.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmd85/dairy-queen-pennsylvania-armed-man-trump

Further proof that most Slobfather fans are clowns, all of them are crazy, and some are dangerous.

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Trump Fan in Clown Wig Threatens to Kill All Democrats in a Dairy Queen (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Sep 2022 OP
He's going to "restore Trump?" The roof leaks and the foundation is cracked. Complete teardown emulatorloo Sep 2022 #1
Textbook example of scholastic violence, just like the fascists intend...should be made a crime! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #2
I think you meant "stochastic violence" ? Pobeka Sep 2022 #3
Yes! But scholar probably involved in making up the word! 😂🍻 Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #10
At a Dairy Queen? Seriously? nt grumpyduck Sep 2022 #4
Guess he was there to liberate Xavier Breath Sep 2022 #7
We need new restrictions on insanity defenses bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #5
Interesting. H2O Man Sep 2022 #11
Wow that's a lot of information, I had no idea it was so few bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #14
"Off-the-cuff H2O Man Sep 2022 #15
Also ..... H2O Man Sep 2022 #16
Happened 4 miles from me ebbie15644 Sep 2022 #6
Apt costume. 😒 kysrsoze Sep 2022 #8
a quack to be sure MissMillie Sep 2022 #9
His fb page is a sight to behold tenderfoot Sep 2022 #12
Gracious. H2O Man Sep 2022 #13

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
1. He's going to "restore Trump?" The roof leaks and the foundation is cracked. Complete teardown
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 11:53 AM
Sep 2022

is a better option IMHO.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
2. Textbook example of scholastic violence, just like the fascists intend...should be made a crime!
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 11:55 AM
Sep 2022

But can’t even have moderate hate speech laws so will keep pissing against the fascist wind.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
11. Interesting.
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 02:19 PM
Sep 2022

I think it is important to note that only about 1% of violent felony cases in the US involve an attempted "insanity" defense. And of these, studies show that only about 30 per year successful. In the case of the fellow mentioned in the OP, there appears to be at very leastsome evidence that the guy had a psychotic disorder that was not being treated at the time.

I say this, not to question the obvious and severe threat he posed to the public, but because he sounds very similar to a case I worked on for years. Perhaps this renders my opinion less than objective. However, I sent the link to another former worker familiar with the case, and he also noted the distinct similarities. Thus, he is also fully aware of the threat such individuals can pose.

The case was given to me for two reasons: first, the guy had shot a pistol at his neighbor over a conflict involving a barking dog, and second, others at the clinic were intimidated by the person. In the first court hearing, the judge asked me what my opinionwas. I said that I did not believe the client was competent to assist in his legal defense. Upon questioning, the client made clear that he thought the DA should be appointed to defend him.

That, of course, resulted in a court-ordered evaluation by two psychologists. He threatened the first, a non-white lady, for asking im uncomfortable questions, which proved to him that she was not a christian. The second deemed he was not competent to pour a glass of water. I do not know PA law, but in New York that allowed the judge to mandate a higher level of treatment until the person was able to assist in his legal defense -- which in this sad case meant never. For even when compliant with taking medication, he was psychotic, in frequent communication with god, and convinced that he was a super-secret undercover sheriff's deputy.

I'm also not familiar with Florida law. However, a while back, I watched a sheriff's press conference after a mentally ill person acted out violently. In answer to a reporter's question, he said that he thought the biggest issue his department faced had resulted from the ending of mental health case management. That service was effective in lowering the number of cases where a person required psychiatric hospitalization. This involves a case manager knowing if a client was taking their medication as prescribed. It allowed for interventions before a person reached the state where police were responding to a crime.

Alexander and Pobeka mention stochastic violence upthread. Now that is very on point -- there are on edge individuals in towns and cities across this country. Some will strike out violently, but most will not, at least not in engaging in situations such as this one. A small percentage of those that do might meet the legal system's definition of "insane." The vast majority could not. Even if they have a major mental illness, they know right from wrong. And the majority of mass-shooters tend to have personality disorders, and traits from Cluster B.

There is no doubt in my mind that "current events" involving the dog whistles calling for violence coming from the Trump cult are encouraging the stochastic violence we see every day on the news. It is far more responsible for "triggering" people than, for example, the 2019 film, "Joker." I thought that film was more of a warning. Just my opinion. I always enjoy reading your contributions here!

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
14. Wow that's a lot of information, I had no idea it was so few
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 02:43 PM
Sep 2022

And you actually read my off-the-cuff cynical takes? I need to think before I post. Fortunately the problem is of less magnitude in speech.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
15. "Off-the-cuff
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 05:33 PM
Sep 2022

cynical takes" are the language I speak!

Late last night, my cousin called me. He had traveled across the state for an archaeology meeting. While there, he had incidents where, at different times, two disturbed people approached him. He said that both seemed to think they knew him, and that their behaviors made him rather uncomfortable. Thus, he called me, thinking that I "understand crazy people." Perhaps that is my second language.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
16. Also .....
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 05:38 PM
Sep 2022

Tenderfoot posted a link to this fellow's FB page. With just a quick look, it is apparent when he stopped taking his medication. There was an opportunity for an intervention, per the note from his minister. Had there been a mental heallth case manager involved -- even with limited contact so long as the guy was doing okay -- this whole episode could easily have been prevented.

MissMillie

(38,545 posts)
9. a quack to be sure
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 12:59 PM
Sep 2022

and thank goodness he will be tried for his terrorism.


(On a side note, the writer and the editors of Vice need to pay attention to stuff like this: is Mr. Stawovy a
supporter of former President Trump? or a former supporter of President Trump? I catch sort of thing in a lot of online articles and it irks me a bit.)

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