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Fiendish Thingy

(14,281 posts)
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 02:46 PM Sep 2022

I will NEVER donate via Act Blue again.

Last week, I made several small dollar donations to numerous 2022 Dem candidates via Act Blue. There were links from Daily Kos to Act Blue pages “bundling” donations to house candidates running for seats in the most “winnable” districts, as well as pages with donations targeting critical senate, AG and SOS races.

I entered my information, including my US passport number (since I live in Canada), submitted my donations, and thought all was well and good.

I got confirmation emails thanking me for my donations, listing all the candidates I had donated to.

The problem is, several of the entries of candidate donations, including Stacy Abrams and several others (probably 20-25% of all candidates) were listed as “not processed”. The only reasoning I could think of was the candidate’s own software scanned my Canadian address, but not my US passport number (or Act Blue didn’t provide it), and declined the donation as coming from a foreign citizen.

It gets worse.

When entering my information, I made sure to select the “one time only” button, and especially the “don’t email me” box.

Everyday since I made the donations, I have received up to 10 emails and 10 texts from various Dem candidates, some of whom, like Henry Cuellar, I specifically didn’t donate to.

I have had to click the “unsubscribe” link on each email which takes me to another page, which I must make an additional 1-3 clicks before I am truly unsubscribed (my experience with other emails is that just clicking “unsubscribe” is enough to end the unwanted email). It’s a major PITA.

I have come to the conclusion that one way Act Blue makes money is by selling their donor lists.

I will NEVER donate via Act Blue again.

From now on, I will only donate directly to candidates I want to support.

I will NEVER donate via Act Blue again. (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 OP
direct donation to candidates is the best way. bypass these bloated skimmers nt msongs Sep 2022 #1
+1000 nt WarGamer Sep 2022 #12
nothing worse than middlemen nt prodigitalson Sep 2022 #2
I know exactly what you mean. It's happened to me also Bristlecone Sep 2022 #3
A Postal Money Order prevents all that. pwb Sep 2022 #4
In addition to a direct contribution include a note telling them Ferryboat Sep 2022 #5
My email system allows me to block specific senders. Once set, their emails to me NCjack Sep 2022 #6
What makes you think a candidate won't sell your email info? Pobeka Sep 2022 #7
Exactly. former9thward Sep 2022 #11
I go to candidates pages directly and get routed to act blue. mahina Sep 2022 #8
I'm shocked that you did. Jirel Sep 2022 #9
Were those emails from actblue or from the individual campaigns? Actblue is an advantage. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #10
They appeared to be emails from individual campaigns Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #13
I like actblue. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #19
ActBlue is a nonprofit and does NOT sell your info Omaha Steve Sep 2022 #14
So, candidates I donated to sold my info to candidates I didn't donate to? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #16
I know the extra email is annoying, but yes, they all share donor info. BlueCheeseAgain Sep 2022 #20
Also it might be STATE law that kept your donations from going through Omaha Steve Sep 2022 #21
Omaha Steve has the goods on Act Blue. See his post. As for having your info passed along.... Hekate Sep 2022 #15
+1 Kaleva Sep 2022 #18
Donating to Hillary directly has blessed me with constant emails and texts. Kaleva Sep 2022 #17

Bristlecone

(9,936 posts)
3. I know exactly what you mean. It's happened to me also
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 02:55 PM
Sep 2022

At least the daily email solicitation of donations for every candidate under the sun.

Upside, when you ask to be removed from the emails you receive, you actually do get removed. Do as tine goes on, less and less emails come. Again, that has been my experience.

pwb

(10,646 posts)
4. A Postal Money Order prevents all that.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 03:01 PM
Sep 2022

Just give your name and address. You may get a little junk mail but it is a lot more private.

Ferryboat

(865 posts)
5. In addition to a direct contribution include a note telling them
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

If you sell my info you will never get another dollar.

Prevents them from selling your name to other's seeking campaign contributions.

NCjack

(10,269 posts)
6. My email system allows me to block specific senders. Once set, their emails to me
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 03:10 PM
Sep 2022

go directly to the trash can, which is emptied weekly. I never see them.

Check your email system's blocking function -- it may be capable of the same.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
7. What makes you think a candidate won't sell your email info?
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 03:19 PM
Sep 2022

I'll bet they all are trading information, whether it be Act Blue, or candidates. They want to know who is activitely donating.

former9thward

(30,491 posts)
11. Exactly.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 04:23 PM
Sep 2022

I have never donated through any middleman or party organization. Yet I get no end of emails from candidates from around the country.

mahina

(17,068 posts)
8. I go to candidates pages directly and get routed to act blue.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 03:21 PM
Sep 2022

Sucks and the lists are too much.

I made up a new Gmail just for them and I never read it

Jirel

(1,962 posts)
9. I'm shocked that you did.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 04:18 PM
Sep 2022

It’s just a giant spam house designed to share your data with every blue candidate from here to Marble Wig, DC, forever and ever. Give only to the candidates you choose, directly.

Hermit-The-Prog

(30,684 posts)
10. Were those emails from actblue or from the individual campaigns? Actblue is an advantage.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 04:22 PM
Sep 2022

GOP has been trying, unsuccessfully, to create their own version of actblue for several election cycles.

Fiendish Thingy

(14,281 posts)
13. They appeared to be emails from individual campaigns
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 04:49 PM
Sep 2022

Although when unsubscribing, the link took me to pages from the same 2-3 mail list companies.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
20. I know the extra email is annoying, but yes, they all share donor info.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 06:55 PM
Sep 2022

Who is more likely to donate to a Dem campaign than someone who has donated to another Dem campaign, after all?

Omaha Steve

(96,983 posts)
21. Also it might be STATE law that kept your donations from going through
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:59 PM
Sep 2022

Some states don't allow PayPal for payment as an example.

Hekate

(87,849 posts)
15. Omaha Steve has the goods on Act Blue. See his post. As for having your info passed along....
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 05:42 PM
Sep 2022

As far as I can tell, nearly every candidate and nearly every organization seems to do that. Welcome to the 21st century.

Donate to whom you will, but spend a little time weekly (or daily, if you want) utilizing the Unsubscribe feature at the bottom of every email.

Kaleva

(35,794 posts)
17. Donating to Hillary directly has blessed me with constant emails and texts.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 06:44 PM
Sep 2022

I'm not complaining as I figure that's the norm if one donated. A candidate's list of contributor's is often sold, rented or outright given to others.

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