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Judge Cannon denies the DOJ motion for Partial Stay-Here we go to the 11th circuit (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
Cannon needs to be arrested for obstruction. Marius25 Sep 2022 #1
Ditto nt SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #2
She never intended otherwise. triron Sep 2022 #3
So DOJ appeals to the 11th circuit.. agingdem Sep 2022 #7
No. former9thward Sep 2022 #60
Aiding and abetting espionage-- viva la Sep 2022 #28
At least she got rid of The Heritage Foundation letterhead underpants Sep 2022 #4
What about the Federalist Society tattoo on her forehead? rubbersole Sep 2022 #11
The 11th Circuit which is teeming with Trump judges New Breed Leader Sep 2022 #5
Infuriating DET Sep 2022 #6
Dearie is supposed to be okay- viva la Sep 2022 #33
Yea right. kacekwl Sep 2022 #40
Just as I predicted, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #8
Interesting that the J6 committee today said they won't be sharing with DOJ lostnfound Sep 2022 #13
11th Circuit won't reverse her... WarGamer Sep 2022 #9
Shit, I hope that is not the case BootinUp Sep 2022 #52
that court needs to be expanded and then make sure she doesnt get assigned any cases Fullduplexxx Sep 2022 #10
So legal eagles.... if they appeal to 11th Circuit Court... can it be thrown out? TigressDem Sep 2022 #12
Even if the 11th circuit rules in favor of DOJ gab13by13 Sep 2022 #19
Maybe the orange man will get his own October Surprise...??? TigressDem Sep 2022 #26
Keep the corruption in the headlines until November. rubbersole Sep 2022 #14
Tee Hee TigressDem Sep 2022 #31
OMG! My high school sweetheart! rubbersole Sep 2022 #36
I'm pretty sure the DOJ expected this, cause I surely did ........ Lovie777 Sep 2022 #15
Judge Cannon denied DOJ's motion for partial stay pending appeal. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #16
This opinion is a joke. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #18
As a non-litigator, my view is that this opinion is dreck LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #21
As a long-time litigator 👇 Nevilledog Sep 2022 #32
+ 10,000 nt TigressDem Sep 2022 #46
I struggled with her first ruling, don't know if I could take another. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #23
This is the biggest crock of shit I've read since I started practice in 1990 Nevilledog Sep 2022 #34
As a tailgater - "shit rulings" should be a legal replacement word for appeal. rubbersole Sep 2022 #39
Agreed. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #42
Was he really innocent? rubbersole Sep 2022 #48
Yes, he was. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #49
Slick motherfucker. rubbersole Sep 2022 #50
How so? Nevilledog Sep 2022 #51
I should have said "saintly" motherfucker rubbersole Sep 2022 #53
That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me....today. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #54
Well, ✔️ rubbersole Sep 2022 #55
Time for the con to be arrested on some of his other crimes Beachnutt Sep 2022 #17
The statute of limitations has run out for "individual one." gab13by13 Sep 2022 #20
Lots of trouble for the orange thing. See ... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #27
That's the best idea kacekwl Sep 2022 #41
Maybe Chris Hayes will have someone on to cheer me up? gab13by13 Sep 2022 #22
The Unitary Presidential Theory is at the heart of this mess. TFG and his attys have obviously allegorical oracle Sep 2022 #24
Dark Biden wants HIS documents back. TigressDem Sep 2022 #47
What about the "take care that the laws be faithfully executed"??? Nt scipan Sep 2022 #66
I agree with Prof Tribe-This is Judge Cannon's bid for permanent ignominy. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #25
I've made it to page 5 and this is some stupid shit from a judge. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #35
I agree with your analysls LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #37
Let us hope the trumphumpers on the 11th follow law and logic. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #45
Andrew Weismann-Judge Cannon is a partisan hack LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #29
That POS cultist Aileen does not disappoint dalton99a Sep 2022 #30
Does anyone have a link to the filing? EndlessWire Sep 2022 #38
Loose Cannon ruling ... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #57
TY! n/t EndlessWire Sep 2022 #58
Welcome. It was a t.co something link in a tweet posted by LetMyPeopleVote, above. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #59
I used to be a nice person... DET Sep 2022 #43
Still reeling in shock over these decisions? It's been endless. BSdetect Sep 2022 #44
Fuck you OFF, In the BAG Brainwormed Cha Sep 2022 #56
TFG has to pay 100% of the cost of the special master LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #61
Can we just give these assholes their own island to ruin? Initech Sep 2022 #62
I been saying all along she is obstructing justice and needs to be arrested! Emile Sep 2022 #63
Do you know if this appeal would go to the Atlanta court, or Miami? msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #64
History will not be kind to this idiot judge LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #65
If the Eleventh Circuit believes it is critical to protect the national security information... kentuck Sep 2022 #67

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
7. So DOJ appeals to the 11th circuit..
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:32 PM
Sep 2022

does that mean the special master does nothing until the 11th circuit renders an opinion?

viva la

(3,289 posts)
28. Aiding and abetting espionage--
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:01 PM
Sep 2022

Really, what part of "top-secret" doesn't she understand?

The DOJ and the intel agencies need to figure out what Trump's done with these documents. But she acts like this is something that will damage Trump? Well, yeah, if he sold documents, it SHOULD damage him.

But there's no reason that there would be any privilege anyway on those documents, because they weren't his, they weren't his lawyers.
The "privilege" is that "if the DOJ can't have them, it'll delay the time Trump's actions are clearly known."

I hope the 11th Circuit has some rational judges who rationally beat her about the head with scorn and contempt.

DET

(1,308 posts)
6. Infuriating
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:31 PM
Sep 2022

Cannon also gave Special Master Dearie until the end of November to review all the documents. I sure hope the DOJ appeals this, but it will almost inevitably go up to the Supreme Court - and who knows what will happen there. Delay, delay,delay. This judge needs to go.

viva la

(3,289 posts)
33. Dearie is supposed to be okay-
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:05 PM
Sep 2022

And if he cares about national security, he will immediately glance at the 100 classified docs and turn them over, "Done!"

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
8. Just as I predicted,
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:32 PM
Sep 2022

our judiciary is full of Magat judges, including in the 11th circuit. Unfuckingbelievable.

DOJ seems to be 1 step behind all of the time. Heck, we don't even know what documents Trump stole. If he stole 1 foreign countries nuclear assessment, why would he steal the other 7 country's?

I'm going to watch football, go to bed and dream about a DOJ indictment, and play golf tomorrow.

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
13. Interesting that the J6 committee today said they won't be sharing with DOJ
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:40 PM
Sep 2022

I’ve heard innocuous explanation for their decision but it’s not hard to picture that they have their doubts.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
12. So legal eagles.... if they appeal to 11th Circuit Court... can it be thrown out?
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:40 PM
Sep 2022

Can they look at the crap fest going on here, declare it ILLEGAL AF and toss out the special master and discipline the partisan judge?

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
19. Even if the 11th circuit rules in favor of DOJ
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:53 PM
Sep 2022

Trump will appeal to the Supreme Court. Delay, delay, is the name of the game.

This is why time is so important. We aren't even sure where DOJ is in its investigations? Early on? Mid? Preparing for an indictment?

The J6 committee got more done with less resources, less power, and less manpower.

The pyramid strategy has been a failure because it was too time consuming.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
26. Maybe the orange man will get his own October Surprise...???
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:00 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe they want him to keep thinking he can run and pull the rug out from under him so the REICH scrambles to find a replacement, then the mob attacks, gets put down by the National Guard, Army et all and Biden has 4 more years to clean up the shit piled up from TFG and Kamala has another 8 to actually make things happen.


Dream big or go home, right?

rubbersole

(6,688 posts)
14. Keep the corruption in the headlines until November.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:45 PM
Sep 2022

What's in the documents isn't the issue. It's why were they there in the first place is the treason case. Dems get both chambers of congress with 55 senators and expand the SC. Putin should be gone by then and unicorns will be farting glitter.

Lovie777

(12,257 posts)
15. I'm pretty sure the DOJ expected this, cause I surely did ........
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:47 PM
Sep 2022

I have come to the conclusion that shithole will one way or another get indicted.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,152 posts)
16. Judge Cannon denied DOJ's motion for partial stay pending appeal.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:50 PM
Sep 2022

There is a link to the opinion on this tweet





The opinion is dreck

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,331 posts)
23. I struggled with her first ruling, don't know if I could take another.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:56 PM
Sep 2022

I'm not a lawyer, but I've read hundreds of court documents (during the SCO v Everybody days) and never encountered anything from a judge that was so unsupported.

Nevilledog

(51,086 posts)
34. This is the biggest crock of shit I've read since I started practice in 1990
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:07 PM
Sep 2022

And trust me, I've seen some shit rulings.

Nevilledog

(51,086 posts)
42. Agreed.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:22 PM
Sep 2022

Still amazed that I never slipped and cursed during court proceedings as I have quite the potty mouth.

True story: Was representing a guy for a bank robbery. Evidence showed that the co-defendant did the robbery without my client knowing. I asked my client on the stand what he thought when he found out the co-D robbed the bank. His answer? "That's the stupidest motherfucker in the whole world."

I did repeat that testimony gleefully to the jury. He was acquitted after a 30 minute deliberation.

rubbersole

(6,688 posts)
48. Was he really innocent?
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:44 PM
Sep 2022

If you can't say anything - attorney/client privilege - blink once for yes...

rubbersole

(6,688 posts)
53. I should have said "saintly" motherfucker
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:11 PM
Sep 2022

instead of "slick" motherfucker. I have just gotten "motherfucker" to pop up in autocorrect after using it for over a year on this phone. A personal milestone of sorts. The phone still gives me a check ✔️ mark instead of "hell". But Nevilledog, you are a cool, smart motherfucker!

Nevilledog

(51,086 posts)
54. That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me....today.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:18 PM
Sep 2022



I trained my autocorrect. It gives me a variation of "fuck" for just about every word I type.
Heaven forbid I ever need to warn someone to duck. (Yes, I had to force the word duck....lol)

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
22. Maybe Chris Hayes will have someone on to cheer me up?
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:55 PM
Sep 2022

I just tune in to see what Joy Reid is wearing and then I flip the channel.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
24. The Unitary Presidential Theory is at the heart of this mess. TFG and his attys have obviously
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 07:58 PM
Sep 2022

adopted this theory and are using it to defend him, and the judge appears to be a fan of the theory, too. Here's a quickie summation of that theory (Wikipedia):

The Vesting Clause of Article II provides, "The executive Power [of the United States] shall be vested in a President of the United States of America." Proponents of the unitary executive theory argue that this language, along with the Take Care Clause ("The President shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed ...), creates a "hierarchical, unified executive department under the direct control of the President."[4]

The general principle that the President controls the entire executive branch was originally rather innocuous, but extreme forms of the theory have developed. Former White House Counsel John Dean explains: "In its most extreme form, unitary executive theory can mean that neither Congress nor the federal courts can tell the President what to do or how to do it, particularly regarding national security matters."[5]

Despite that drumpf is no longer president, he's asserting that taking whatever documents he wanted to take with him, whether classified or not, was within his sole discretion because he was the president at the time he took those actions.

We can only hope the 11th Circuit doesn't abide by the theory.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
47. Dark Biden wants HIS documents back.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:37 PM
Sep 2022

Orange puke, can not be trusted with classified information since he is BFF's with dictators, pardoned murders, thieves and racketeers.

The orange man is a threat to this nation and should take up residence in GITMO.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,331 posts)
35. I've made it to page 5 and this is some stupid shit from a judge.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:08 PM
Sep 2022

She cites things in support of her (alleged) reasoning that actually PROVE HER WRONG.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,152 posts)
37. I agree with your analysls
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:11 PM
Sep 2022

I am shocked that this idiot is willing to hold that ex-presidents are in a special class


EndlessWire

(6,518 posts)
38. Does anyone have a link to the filing?
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:14 PM
Sep 2022

All around the lawyersphere, this judge is being soundly denounced as "not understanding." Well, I think she gets it. She understands that she is working for Trump.

The Gov attorneys bent over backwards to explain the matter to her, like teachers to a student. So, I guess they will file an appeal. I hope it's 50 pages long with lots of exhibits. She should have to read it.

Trump appears to be above the law. He's getting special handling. And, he is still threatening us with violence, and able to get away with it. Meantime, we are waiting for Midterms. It is clear that nothing is going to happen.

DET

(1,308 posts)
43. I used to be a nice person...
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:25 PM
Sep 2022

…but increasingly I just want these horrible people to suffer for what they’re putting our country through.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
62. Can we just give these assholes their own island to ruin?
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 12:44 AM
Sep 2022

And leave the rest of us who want to live in the United States and not a religious fascist totalitarian hell hole alone? Please?

kentuck

(111,085 posts)
67. If the Eleventh Circuit believes it is critical to protect the national security information...
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 01:43 PM
Sep 2022

...then they will likely decide rather quickly.

If they lean toward the Judge's decision, they may take a little longer.

If they do not have a decision in a week, I would be concerned that they are all in Trump's pocket.

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