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Nevilledog

(51,064 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 02:11 PM Sep 2022

Kidnapped Migrants given false U.S. addresses by immigration officials to ruin asylum cases?



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Rachel Self, a Boston immigration attorney tells you everything you need to know about immigrants sent to Martha’s Vineyard.

They’d been given falsified U.S. addresses by immigration officials, perhaps ensuring that they’d be deemed in the country illegally.

8:00 AM · Sep 16, 2022
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Kidnapped Migrants given false U.S. addresses by immigration officials to ruin asylum cases? (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
Why would the Biden administration's CBP give falsified US addresses to migrants? nt kelly1mm Sep 2022 #1
Imbedded Trumpers HAB911 Sep 2022 #2
+1000 dewsgirl Sep 2022 #3
Because It's not Biden's CBP. It was founded in 2003, has over 6000 people working there Autumn Sep 2022 #4
So it is the flip coin of Trumps 'Deep State'? Like Trump alleged there are government agencies/ kelly1mm Sep 2022 #11
Not unusual. Republicans, white supremacists, trumpers and other nuts are like mold and slime. Autumn Sep 2022 #13
It's not Biden's CBP. Pretty obvious they and DHS went rogue a long time ago. haele Sep 2022 #7
So it is the flip coin of Trumps 'Deep State'? Like Trump alleged there are government agencies/ kelly1mm Sep 2022 #12
No, it's not the same as Trump claiming "deep state". Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #14
How is it different? Trump said there were rogue individuals in agencies working against his kelly1mm Sep 2022 #15
No, it's because DHS is so bloated and compartmentalized, it's difficult to manage. haele Sep 2022 #16
The DHS officers that they claim assisted in this operation lapfog_1 Sep 2022 #5
This is just so evil Nevilledog Sep 2022 #8
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2022 #6
Considering the complicity of DHS employees in this travesty, halfulglas Sep 2022 #9
DHS is totally lawless and does whatever it wants regardless of elected leadership. RockRaven Sep 2022 #10
... Lucinda Sep 2022 #17

Autumn

(45,042 posts)
4. Because It's not Biden's CBP. It was founded in 2003, has over 6000 people working there
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 02:20 PM
Sep 2022

and Biden did not appoint them all.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
11. So it is the flip coin of Trumps 'Deep State'? Like Trump alleged there are government agencies/
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:37 PM
Sep 2022

individuals that do what they want regardless of what the current administration wants? I find that an unusual take here on DU.

Autumn

(45,042 posts)
13. Not unusual. Republicans, white supremacists, trumpers and other nuts are like mold and slime.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:49 PM
Sep 2022

They get in everywhere conditions are just right.

haele

(12,646 posts)
7. It's not Biden's CBP. Pretty obvious they and DHS went rogue a long time ago.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 02:25 PM
Sep 2022

We are seeing the desperate death throws of the cocky White Supremacist PNAC founded 'War on Terror'.
DHS is littered with Bush era 'Good ol' Bois' and go along to get along proto-bullies. They never took their oaths to the Government seriously to begin with, their loyalty and reality is always to the System that founded their organization. And they just can't conceive of a Real World of average people beyond it.
Most of CBP are basically thoughtless reactionary robots.

Haele

kelly1mm

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12. So it is the flip coin of Trumps 'Deep State'? Like Trump alleged there are government agencies/
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:38 PM
Sep 2022

individuals that do what they want regardless of what the current administration wants? I find that an unusual take here on DU.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
15. How is it different? Trump said there were rogue individuals in agencies working against his
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:54 PM
Sep 2022

administration. Now CBP agents are falsifying addresses in contravention (I hope) of Biden administration wishes?

haele

(12,646 posts)
16. No, it's because DHS is so bloated and compartmentalized, it's difficult to manage.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:39 PM
Sep 2022

There were complaints about Border Patrol cliques going their own way since 2005. Communications and funding between different districts, or even organizations within departments are splintered and byzantine, as different operations and missions have different managers with overlapping personnel.
There was also piss poor screening when DSH was created and they started surge-hiring to fill all these new positions. Lots of gang members and White Supremacists got hired and were able to keep their jobs because of inconsistent immigration policy and profitable/strict border doctrine.

Haele

lapfog_1

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5. The DHS officers that they claim assisted in this operation
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 02:21 PM
Sep 2022

need to be fired and charged with human trafficking. That, maybe, will stop other DHS and BP agents from participating in such behavior in the future.

Once they are convicted, they should be offered a choice... a long sentence in a federal correctional facility... or they can be stripped of citizenship and deported to Venezuela or Colombia... with no access to any assets they might have in the USA...

Nevilledog

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8. This is just so evil
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 02:28 PM
Sep 2022


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Employees @DHSgov created fake addresses for these desperate migrants in places 1,000's of miles from where they were being sent, giving them mandatory meetings on Monday, ensuring they would miss these meeting and get a deportation order.

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Stop and watch this video.

Whatever you thought about the governors' stunt... it turns out it was worse.
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10:59 AM · Sep 16, 2022

halfulglas

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9. Considering the complicity of DHS employees in this travesty,
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 03:03 PM
Sep 2022

I can't help wondering how many other DHS personnel at the border give unsuspecting refugees seeking legitimate asylum these conflicting instructions so as to deliberately foil their chances of success in pleading their cases to remain here safely.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
10. DHS is totally lawless and does whatever it wants regardless of elected leadership.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 03:10 PM
Sep 2022

Doesn't help they've got a corrupt as fuck IG, who Biden inexplicably hasn't removed despite many, many just causes.

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