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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,918 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:33 PM Sep 2022

House rejects Trump plot to oust civil servants

U.S. House Democrats and a handful of Republicans on Thursday rejected former President Donald Trump's plot to oust civil servants by passing the Preventing a Patronage System Act.

"The civil servants who make up our federal workforce are the engine that keeps our federal government running," said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), the bill's sponsor. "We rely on their experience and expertise to provide every basic government service—from delivering the mail to helping families in the wake of natural disasters."

"The former president's attempt to remove qualified experts and replace them with political loyalists (lackies) threatened our national security and our government's ability to function the way the American people expect it to. Expertise, not fealty, must define our civil service," he added.




Connolly, who chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Reform's government operations panel, and Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Penn.) introduced H.R. 302 in response to Trump's executive order to establish a new Schedule F category of federal employees who are easier to fire.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-rejects-trump-plot-to-oust-civil-servants/ar-AA11TFj1

Prior to Civil Service they had what was known as "The spoils system". The name came from the phrase, "To the victor the spoils."

Government jobs were held by the elected politicians' friends. These people were often unqualified.
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House rejects Trump plot to oust civil servants (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 OP
GOOD! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2022 #1
IN NC, most federal employees are die-hard republican/trump people. We need to make sure BComplex Sep 2022 #14
We need to identify and remove the unqualified and/or brer cat Sep 2022 #2
One unexpected benefit of Trumps disastrous 4 years. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #3
Good! Ocelot II Sep 2022 #4
Yes! K&R crickets Sep 2022 #5
Magats want to Do Away With Cha Sep 2022 #6
Republicons don't know how to govern. MAGAts don't know how to think. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #10
hopefully it passes the senate too.nt. drray23 Sep 2022 #7
Can they get 10 republican Senators to vote for it? no_hypocrisy Sep 2022 #8
Excellent! niyad Sep 2022 #9
The Senate James48 Sep 2022 #11
Yes that Schedule F nonsense needs to be removed - legislatively BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #12
K&R UTUSN Sep 2022 #13

BComplex

(8,035 posts)
14. IN NC, most federal employees are die-hard republican/trump people. We need to make sure
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:44 PM
Sep 2022

every single one of them understands that, if trump can do this, Biden could do this. Their jobs are on the line because of policies republicans want to enact.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
2. We need to identify and remove the unqualified and/or
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:36 PM
Sep 2022

corrupt people trump put into place. We don't require loyalty, we do require competence.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,451 posts)
3. One unexpected benefit of Trumps disastrous 4 years.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:37 PM
Sep 2022

We sure see the weaknesses in our our laws when a wannabe dictator gets elected.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
6. Magats want to Do Away With
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:55 PM
Sep 2022

SNAP, Medicare, & Social Security, too.

Be Fucking Aware VOTERS!

GOTV For Dems 2022 & 2024!!

James48

(4,435 posts)
11. The Senate
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:01 PM
Sep 2022

Will not let this see the light of day.
Good republicans know it is needed.
Unfortunately, there are too few good republicans who actually know history, the Pendleton Act, and why this is needed.

By the way- James A. Garfield was a Republican practicing the spoils system of handing out favors. Funny how that worked out for him.

BumRushDaShow

(128,839 posts)
12. Yes that Schedule F nonsense needs to be removed - legislatively
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:35 PM
Sep 2022

He had almost 88% of OMB all ready to switch before being dragged kicking and screaming out of office.



On his 3rd day in office, President Biden revoked the 45 E.O. that created Schedule F -

Executive Order on Protecting the Federal Workforce
January 22, 2021 • Presidential Actions



By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Policy. Career civil servants are the backbone of the Federal workforce, providing the expertise and experience necessary for the critical functioning of the Federal Government. It is the policy of the United States to protect, empower, and rebuild the career Federal workforce. It is also the policy of the United States to encourage union organizing and collective bargaining. The Federal Government should serve as a model employer.

Sec. 2. Revocation of Schedule F. (a) The creation of a new Schedule F excepted service category in Executive Order 13957 of October 21, 2020 (Creating Schedule F in the Excepted Service), not only was unnecessary to the conditions of good administration, but also undermined the foundations of the civil service and its merit system principles, which were essential to the Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act of 1883’s repudiation of the spoils system. Accordingly, to enhance the efficiency of the civil service and to promote good administration and systematic application of merit system principles, Executive Order 13957 is hereby revoked.

(b) The heads of all executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall, consistent with law, immediately suspend, revise, or rescind proposed actions, decisions, petitions, rules, regulations or other guidance pursuant to, or to effectuate, Executive Order 13957. The Director of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) shall immediately cease processing or granting any petitions that seek to convert positions to Schedule F or to create new positions in Schedule F.

(snip)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/22/executive-order-protecting-the-federal-workforce/


Article from last month -

Senate Dems Have Joined the Push to Block Schedule F

As Republican groups discuss plans to reinstitute the controversial plan to strip tens of thousands of federal workers of their civil service protections, congressional Democrats have renewed their efforts to block it.

August 2, 2022

(snip)

In recent weeks, former White House aides from the Trump administration unveiled plans to immediately reinstitute Schedule F the next time a Republican is president. Schedule F was an ill-fated plan to find and reclassify the positions of tens of thousands of career federal workers in “policy-related” roles outside of the competitive service, stripping them of their civil service protections and making it much easier to hire and fire them. Trump, who is mulling another campaign for president, seemingly endorsed the plan in a speech last week.

Those involved in the effort to revive Schedule F have said they have already identified 50,000 federal employees who could be fired under the proposed new authority, although they hope terminating a fraction of that number would create a “chilling effect” to keep the rest in line. And last week, a group of conservative Republicans introduced legislation that would make all federal workers at-will employees.

Democrats in the House passed Rep. Gerry Connolly’s bill, the Preventing a Patronage System Act, as part of the fiscal 2023 National Defense Authorization Act last month. And on Tuesday, a group of Democratic senators, led by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., introduced identical legislation. Senate appropriators also included a ban on Schedule F as part of its Financial Service and General Government spending bill.

The legislation, which is also sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., Ben Cardin and Chris Van Hollen, both D-Md., prevents any position in the competitive service from being reclassified to Schedule F, and bars the president from creating new job classifications without congressional approval in advance.

(snip)

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2022/08/senate-dems-join-push-block-schedule-f/375221/
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