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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 09:48 PM Sep 2022

An Enraged White House Basically Accuses Ron DeSantis And Greg Abbott Of Human Smuggling

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/09/16/white-house-abbott-desantis-smugglers.html


Posted on Fri, Sep 16th, 2022 by Jason Easley
An Enraged White House Basically Accuses Ron DeSantis And Greg Abbott Of Human Smuggling


White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre accused Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis of using the tactics of human smugglers.



The White House Press Secretary said:

Two Republican governors lured 100 asylum seekers, including children, onto planes and buses with false premises, and then abandoned them on a busy road thousands of miles away with nothing but ziplock bags of their belongings in hand. “These were children. They were moms. They were fleeing communism. And what did Gov. DeSantis and Gov. Abbott do to them? They treated them like political pawns, treated them like chattel in a cruel, premeditated political stunt.

Why else would Gov. DeSantis have spent the time to charter a flight to take migrants out of a different state — not even his state, a different state — and hire a videographer to capture footage of that flight, but not bother to let Massachusetts authorities know that migrant children in need of food and shelter were about to land on their doorstep.

These vulnerable migrants were reportedly misled about where they were headed, told they would be headed to Boston, misled about what they would be provided when they arrived, and promised shelter, refuge, benefits, and more. These are the kinds of tactics we see from smugglers,” Jean-Pierre said. “And for what? A photo op?


Abbott and DeSantis are pulling an election-year stunt. They both are running for reelection, and they both have 2024 presidential ambitions. Each man is wasting millions of dollars of taxpayer money in their respective states on political stunts that play well on Fox News.

The White House can’t openly say that DeSantis and Abbott are breaking the law because that determination has to be made by the Justice Department, but state officials like California Gov. Gavin Newsom have already requested that the DOJ review what Abbott and DeSantis are doing.

The Republicans will be facing some fallout for this stunt, and the White House is galvanizing public opinion to ensure that their cruel and inhumane actions are defined for the nation.
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An Enraged White House Basically Accuses Ron DeSantis And Greg Abbott Of Human Smuggling (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2022 OP
Fly everyone responsible to a deserted island, but tell them they're going to Hawaii. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #1
Great idea. dewsgirl Sep 2022 #2
maybe Saint Helena? DBoon Sep 2022 #3
I'm actually across the Eclipse Sound from Bylot Island right now. Lucky Luciano Sep 2022 #10
dat you? orleans Sep 2022 #43
Tis I. Lucky Luciano Sep 2022 #46
amazing pictures orleans Sep 2022 #47
Halfway to the island works too. Probatim Sep 2022 #6
I would donate to that. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #24
Haha, ok. txwhitedove Sep 2022 #30
It was a benign statement relative to what the right states it will do to us. Probatim Sep 2022 #31
Huh? What part of "haha" sounds negative or oppositional? I'm anti death penalty txwhitedove Sep 2022 #36
My apologies then - I assumed (which makes an ass out of me) Probatim Sep 2022 #45
Good point. Just draw a Big Hawaii with a magic Sharpie! GreenWave Sep 2022 #39
Tell Jr and Eric Traildogbob Sep 2022 #16
I'd support that. wnylib Sep 2022 #22
Waiting for someone to explain to me how it wasn't anything but that Blue Owl Sep 2022 #4
John Yoo, Please pick up the nearest white courtesy telephone Brother Buzz Sep 2022 #7
It was kidnapping and human smuggling. That we can't say that Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2022 #13
He's "TRYING to PRETEND to BE like JOE BIDEN" but his hate and need to OWN the LIBs is showing. TigressDem Sep 2022 #33
These really are the fking mole people. OMGWTF Sep 2022 #5
An insult to moles. soldierant Sep 2022 #11
Headlines in Martha Vinyard's September 2024 newspaper BOSSHOG Sep 2022 #8
Why isn't the WH directing the FBI to arrest DeMantis for kidnapping? if..fish..had..wings Sep 2022 #9
Amen. Wait and wait until people long forget. :( nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2022 #14
The WH CANNOT Direct the FBI to make arrests. That is the DOJ's responsibility. Tommymac Sep 2022 #40
Brava! Stinky The Clown Sep 2022 #12
Good! Repukes should be called out for their inhumane actions. sakabatou Sep 2022 #15
Well, that was, um, what's that word? Bettie Sep 2022 #17
Jesus fing Christ orangecrush Sep 2022 #18
It has also been reported Zilli Sep 2022 #19
You missed something jmowreader Sep 2022 #23
Thank you Zilli Sep 2022 #29
Don't accuse! Arrest! Dirty Socialist Sep 2022 #20
My thoughts exactly... wsulik Sep 2022 #26
How far are we from the mass graves that they're digging up in Ukraine? A republican wet dream. NBachers Sep 2022 #21
We got a preview Jan6 housecat Sep 2022 #42
This calls for prosecution at the highest level and priority. usonian Sep 2022 #25
The DOJ won't do a God damn thing about this. Tacan Sep 2022 #34
OK, I hope the DOJ gets on it. ecstatic Sep 2022 #27
CRUELTY IS THE POINT! displacedtexan Sep 2022 #28
Now DO something! Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #32
Cut federal funding to FL and TX. For anything and everything. Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #35
We appear to be paper tigers. It cannot stand this way indefinitely. The MAGATS want to do Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #37
If the DOJ really wants to fix it then Punish them. Make it personal. Biden has nothing to lose. flying_wahini Sep 2022 #38
Looks like the Dems are finally fighting back. We can learn from Ukraine housecat Sep 2022 #41
This is fairly blunt and thumbing their nose at the Fed. Xolodno Sep 2022 #44
Wow greytdemocrat Sep 2022 #48

Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
10. I'm actually across the Eclipse Sound from Bylot Island right now.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:52 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Bylot/Baffin Island would be a good spot to drop them! At least the scenery is nice in the Arctic tundra!













Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
46. Tis I.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 09:49 PM
Sep 2022

There are many more pics that I have and no justice is done! The trouble, I think, is making the pictures tell the story of the scale. The fiords are like 3000 foot walls in places, but you can only tell that they are big in the pics, but not THAT big.

The icebergs in my pics look like big hunks of ice, but it is hard to tell that they are about 5 times bigger than huge cruise ships on the above sea level portion!

It’s been a hoot, I was supposed to fly out Friday…there was fog…now I have to wait until Monday…then do an overnight in Iqaluit and fly to Ottawa Tuesday…then back home Wednesday! Wife’s not happy about that! Lesson learned about remote travel - you need a big cushion for unexpected delays!





orleans

(34,042 posts)
47. amazing pictures
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 10:43 PM
Sep 2022

i imagine seeing this in person would literally take my breath away; i'd be so awestruck i'd be crying

you're so lucky ... (hence--your name lol)

thanks so much for posting these!

Probatim

(2,503 posts)
31. It was a benign statement relative to what the right states it will do to us.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:45 PM
Sep 2022

Sorry you didn't find it humorous.

txwhitedove

(3,926 posts)
36. Huh? What part of "haha" sounds negative or oppositional? I'm anti death penalty
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:33 PM
Sep 2022

but found your comment humorous. Goodbye.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
16. Tell Jr and Eric
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:23 PM
Sep 2022

They won a free trip to Bolivian Jungles to shoot gorillas and wallow in mountains of pure coke……..and drop em off at GITMO to be held until charges are filed. 20 years later, if ever.

Brother Buzz

(36,388 posts)
7. John Yoo, Please pick up the nearest white courtesy telephone
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:28 PM
Sep 2022

If anyone can, the twisted John Yoo could do it, and I would not be surprised if he did.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. It was kidnapping and human smuggling. That we can't say that
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:59 PM
Sep 2022

plain and simple is crazy! We have to wait until DOJ says it? Yikes by the time there is any kind of action, it will be long forgotten IMHO. Grrrrrr

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
33. He's "TRYING to PRETEND to BE like JOE BIDEN" but his hate and need to OWN the LIBs is showing.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

An article in the Federalist mentions that it isn't any different than Biden moving immigrants in the middle of the night from border states to other states...


EXCEPT that Biden made the full arrangements in advance as part of getting children out of the border crises and into sponsored situations or social services in the target states with the proper communication to those states in advance.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-140450591.html
Brittany Bernstein October 19, 2021

The Biden administration has been quietly flying underage illegal immigrants from Texas to New York late at night for more than two months in an effort to resettle the tens of thousands of migrants taken into custody at the border in recent weeks, according to a new report.

A New York Post analysis of online flight-tracking data suggests that some 2,000 migrants have arrived at the Westchester County Airport in suburban New York on 21 flights since August 8. Many of the planes landed between midnight and 6:30 a.m., when a voluntary curfew is in effect.

The report describes late-night flights arriving under the cover of dark, filled with children and teens. New York Post reporters watched two planes land at the airport, where most of the passengers who deplaned seemed to be children and teens, with a small number appearing to be men in their 20s.

Many of the migrants were then seen meeting with relatives or sponsors in New Jersey or being dropped off at the Syosset, Long Island campus of MercyFirst, a nonprofit sponsored by the Catholic Sisters of Mercy. MercyFirst provides housing and services for “children and adolescents who are the victims of societal problems,” according to its website, which adds that it has a contract to supply the federal government with residential services for “immigrant youth.”

Someone familiar with the situation reportedly told the outlet that underage migrants usually arrive carrying backpacks and are bused to locations in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, upstate Newburgh, and Bridgeport and Danbury in Connecticut.

The report adds that many of the flights from Texas first touch down in Jacksonville, Fla., before continuing to Westchester.

..... SO THAT IS WHY ABBOTT AND DESATAN decided THEY could do this??? .....


A spokesperson for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis questioned why the Biden administration is resettling the migrants in “secrecy” if it is “so confident that their open border policy is good for our country.”

.....

He accused the Biden administration of “systematically spreading the southern border crisis to communities all around the country, often shrouded in secrecy and under the cloak of darkness.”

The White House said Monday that the flights only carry children and teens.

“It is our legal responsibility to safely care for unaccompanied children until they can be swiftly unified with a parent or a vetted sponsor,” the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said.

“Our Office of Refugee Resettlement facilitates travel for the children in its custody to their family or sponsors across the country,” HHS spokesman Jorge Silva told the outlet. “In recent weeks, unaccompanied children passed through the Westchester airport en route to their final destination to be unified with their parents or vetted sponsor.”

The report comes as Border Patrol agents encountered 37,805 unaccompanied minors at the border in July and August alone.


NOT THE SAME AS DROPPING YOUR PROBLEM ON SOMEONE ELSE'S DOORSTEP and then criticizing them for not having prepared a response in advance to your political stunt.

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
11. An insult to moles.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:54 PM
Sep 2022

Kenneth Grahame would be distressed (not that he didn't inslut some rodents himself in that book.)

BOSSHOG

(37,015 posts)
8. Headlines in Martha Vinyard's September 2024 newspaper
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:29 PM
Sep 2022

Immigrants dumped on Island by inhumane Republican in 2022
Providing positive and economic benefits to our Community

Desantis and Abbott blame each other for dumbfuckery.

Because that what conservatives do.

9. Why isn't the WH directing the FBI to arrest DeMantis for kidnapping?
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:29 PM
Sep 2022

Why is it that when these people openly break the law they are not arrested?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
40. The WH CANNOT Direct the FBI to make arrests. That is the DOJ's responsibility.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:07 PM
Sep 2022

And rightly so.

That WH meme is just plain wrong. It's deceiving.

The criminal TFG would try to do something like that - not something a responsible, knowledgeable, sane President would do.

Zilli

(184 posts)
19. It has also been reported
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:42 PM
Sep 2022

That DHS provided false documents with false details for this stunt and ICE gave these people, who were seeking asylum, (as if these people were playthings or property and not human beings) to Abbott to abuse and Abbott gave these people to DeathSantis to lie to and abuse some more. Then these people were transported across state lines and abandoned. None of these actions are legal. Is this all going to treated as if these tyrants are above the law? I'm outraged!

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
23. You missed something
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:13 AM
Sep 2022

When an asylum seeker moves, they have to go in person to the Immigration office closest to their new address, as reported to the government, on a specific date. If they don’t, they will be permanently expelled from the US. DeSantis rigged it so the government thinks they’re thousands of miles from where they are, and they have 24 hours to report.

So…in addition to all the other shit he pulled, DeSantis needs to be hit with 50 counts of falsifying official documents.

wsulik

(44 posts)
26. My thoughts exactly...
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:59 AM
Sep 2022

This isn't just "dumb-fuckery". This is not a joke. It's not funny.

Can you imagine being a migrant dropped off on a foreign land with nothing other than the clothes on your back? This was a crime. Probably multiple crimes.

Why on earth doesn't the white house treat it this way? Again, it seems those in certain political positions get special treatment.

NBachers

(17,082 posts)
21. How far are we from the mass graves that they're digging up in Ukraine? A republican wet dream.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:06 AM
Sep 2022

And there are plenty of 'em who'd do it with turgid pleasure.

Tacan

(97 posts)
34. The DOJ won't do a God damn thing about this.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:22 PM
Sep 2022

Oh, it's too close to an election. We can't interfere.
Just ignore it for now the news cycle will be changing shortly.
Some lawyer will write a letter allowing it. Remember Jon Yoo with torture?

Our legal system sucks and if we don't fix it, we will never have the rule of law

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
27. OK, I hope the DOJ gets on it.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:09 AM
Sep 2022

There must be consequences. If they break the law and treat humans inhumanely, there must be repercussions. We can't be the type of country where this is OK.

Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
37. We appear to be paper tigers. It cannot stand this way indefinitely. The MAGATS want to do
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:10 PM
Sep 2022

whatever the hell they want to with no consequences or you'll be sorry. It's out-of-control bullshit.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
44. This is fairly blunt and thumbing their nose at the Fed.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:38 PM
Sep 2022

It's been an open secret that red states quietly buy one way bus tickets for the homeless and send them to the West Coast. Now, they are advertising it. I hope the DOJ nails these guys to the wall.

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