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NewHendoLib

(60,013 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:21 PM Sep 2022

We are seeing the culmination of what happens when no one ever pays for political crimes

Nixon got pardoned
Dubya was responsible for countless deaths starting a needless war
Plame got outed - there was no Fitzmas present
Gore got screwed
Hillary got screwed

and on and on - each time the crime more visible.

Republicans are emboldened, doing the equivalent of "I can shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it" non stop, flagrantly lying

In their minds, any election they lose is stolen - and even if they don't believe it, they say it - and build the cult.

now they are just kidnapping disenfranchised people and flying them around to "own the libs"

Because they have most of the media - and the rest plays "both sides do it"

And they get away with it - so they become bolder, the crimes become bigger, their disregard grows.

As they said in the Truman movie - "how will it end"?

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We are seeing the culmination of what happens when no one ever pays for political crimes (Original Post) NewHendoLib Sep 2022 OP
Reagan and GHWBush skated on Iran-Contra. RockRaven Sep 2022 #1
Yep...and IraqGate, if anyone remembers that one. There was a good book... keep_left Sep 2022 #13
Welcome to America! at140 Sep 2022 #2
We will know how it ends when we answer the question... FalloutShelter Sep 2022 #3
Well said! hamsterjill Sep 2022 #4
Name one American moondust Sep 2022 #5
Land of PRIVILEGE Dirty Socialist Sep 2022 #6
It's worse than you think Dirty Socialist Sep 2022 #7
Seriously, several times a day BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #8
K&R UTUSN Sep 2022 #9
Why do you think that is? Have they just gotten so adept Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2022 #10
A lot of this history seems like a real-life episode... keep_left Sep 2022 #14
I've been saying this for a long time dflprincess Sep 2022 #11
Exactly. I think their plan is to commit so much crime in so many places that BamaRefugee Sep 2022 #12
I wish I could disagree with this framework. The gqp took russian lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #16
Started with the Civil War Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #15
And although Meowmee Sep 2022 #17
One man has the power to start a change right now but, ...... Hotler Sep 2022 #18
THANK YOU Skittles Sep 2022 #19

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
1. Reagan and GHWBush skated on Iran-Contra.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:25 PM
Sep 2022

Reagan back-channeled with Iran about the hostages while running against Carter, much like Nixon did with the North Vietnamese -- which LBJ found out about and exclaimed "this is treason!" but then did nothing about.

keep_left

(1,783 posts)
13. Yep...and IraqGate, if anyone remembers that one. There was a good book...
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:35 AM
Sep 2022

...about it called Spider's Web that can probably be found in any decent library. I'm sure it is out of print, since I think it dates to around 1988-89. IraqGate was a scandal somewhat related to but distinct from Iran-Contra that involved a lot of the same players. And of course it happened at about the same time. I think it was discovered partly because Senator Kerry's investigation of Iran-Contra was so thorough, but I really need to re-read a lot of that history again. It's amazing how little changes in politics even as so much changes in the world.

FalloutShelter

(11,844 posts)
3. We will know how it ends when we answer the question...
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:32 PM
Sep 2022

Who will stop them?
That is what drives me crazy.
Day in and day out we discuss their criming. Their sneering criminal arrogance.
Who will stop them?
They hold the highest offices in the land. They are on the ballot.
Who will stop them?

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
4. Well said!
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:48 PM
Sep 2022

We discuss Trump and all of the various investigations. We discuss Abbott and DeSantis and their treatment of the migrants.

But what is actually being done to stop their activities? Essentially, nothing. All talk and no action.

Time for Dems to act and get results.

moondust

(19,967 posts)
5. Name one American
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 11:48 PM
Sep 2022

who has gotten away with more crimes, lies, and wrongdoing in their lifetime than TFG.

Boris Johnson told what...5-10 lies and his party booted him. 10 is smaller than 30,000, right?

I've wondered how many (corrupt) MAGAts have supported TFG all along hoping that by using him to promote and normalize lying and corruption they'll be able to get away with more themselves.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
8. Seriously, several times a day
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:12 AM
Sep 2022

I actually say out loud to myself that the best decision I made was when I chose not to have kids. I made a conscious decision and have never regretted it for a second. Thank you Planned Parenthood for tying my tubes when I was 25 years old and for only $99.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Why do you think that is? Have they just gotten so adept
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:55 AM
Sep 2022

at toeing the line? Knowing how far to go? For me, we seem too reticent. Always afraid to just come right out and say something, do something. And not talking about breaking law or going against principles. Just afraid to make any kind of straightforward comments at all!


keep_left

(1,783 posts)
14. A lot of this history seems like a real-life episode...
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:43 AM
Sep 2022

...of the X-Files. I just wonder who plays the 2022 version of the "Smoking Man".

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
11. I've been saying this for a long time
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:29 AM
Sep 2022

Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II all got away with their crimes and each one pushed the line further until it led to Trump.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
12. Exactly. I think their plan is to commit so much crime in so many places that
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:07 AM
Sep 2022

Last edited Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:28 PM - Edit history (1)

There simply will not be enough manpower at DOJ and the courts to try even a tiny percentage of them.
They’ll win by simply creating a tsunami of skullduggery.

lindysalsagal

(20,641 posts)
16. I wish I could disagree with this framework. The gqp took russian
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 08:46 AM
Sep 2022

Filthy gangster money, and so you'd have to remove most of the leadership if you got started. No one has the cahones to do it.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
15. Started with the Civil War
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 04:18 AM
Sep 2022

The South has been in a perpetual uprising since then, though the population has dispersed to include the whole country.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
19. THANK YOU
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 05:58 PM
Sep 2022

Hillary gets grilled for hours under oath for absolute BULLSHIT

I am SO FUCKING TIRED of the double standard.

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