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Clash City Rocker

(3,390 posts)
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:49 PM Sep 2022

So, did DeSantis commit a federal offense?

“If a victim is moved across state lines during a kidnapping, it is a federal offense under federal kidnapping laws. Under the Lindbergh Law, or Federal Kidnapping Act, a kidnapping that involves the movement of a victim across state lines may be punishable by a prison term of up to 20 years.”

https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/kidnapping-lawyers.html

Is this not an example of kidnapping? Someone should be going to prison for this.

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JoeTheRat

(50 posts)
1. The question, to me, is actually enforcing it...
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:52 PM
Sep 2022

The big trick with the MAGA types is that they can get away with anything because no one enforces...

 

JoeTheRat

(50 posts)
5. The little people - those the courts see as expendable.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:04 PM
Sep 2022

You're right -- but you know they had inside help.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. They could squirm out of kidnapping
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 01:56 PM
Sep 2022

by saying the people consented to go. They did commit fraud in convincing them - that may fit in to the kidnapping definition.

tinrobot

(10,888 posts)
10. They didn't consent to go to Martha's Vineyard
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:47 PM
Sep 2022

They were offered a trip somewhere else, and were falsely promised immigration help when they got there. Neither of those happened.

Legally, this could be considered kidnapping. It's also fraud.

usonian

(9,704 posts)
7. Lindbergh Law, details in the fine print
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:33 PM
Sep 2022
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Kidnapping_Act

An Act forbidding the transportation of any person in interstate or foreign commerce, kidnapped, or otherwise unlawfully detained, and making such act a felony.



Unlawfully detained?

Now, about that Florida-Mexico border.

Working on it.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
8. Did they use Dept. Of Homeland security personnel or resources fraudulently?
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:38 PM
Sep 2022

Did they lie on forms, did they ignore immigration paperwork needed to transport these people? This is where to look.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
13. Yes, if this story has any truth to it, it shouldn't be hard to find the people
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:16 PM
Sep 2022

involved in selecting these migrants and processing them for the flights. Security cameras, personal cellphone videos, signatures on paperwork. These migrants originated from somewhere--who are the American officials who had contact with them?

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