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LetMyPeopleVote

(144,005 posts)
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:47 PM Sep 2022

Garland indirectly calls out Loose Cannon in emotional Ellis Island speech

This was a great speech. I have a certificate for both of my paternal grandparents coming through Ellis Island. I am glad that AG Garland called out Loose Cannon on the concept that TFG has special rights different from other US Citizens.



https://news.yahoo.com/garland-calls-on-americans-to-overcome-intense-polarization-in-emotional-ellis-island-speech-191127421.html

In recent rulings granting Trump's request to appoint a special master, the federal judge overseeing the case has suggested that it requires different treatment because it involves a former president.

"As a function of Plaintiff's former position as President of the United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own," said a Sept. 5 decision from U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee. "A future indictment, based to any degree on property that ought to be returned, would result in reputational harm of a decidedly different order of magnitude."

Cannon also noted in a Sept. 15 ruling that the "principles of equity require the Court to consider the specific context at issue, and that consideration is inherently impacted by the position formerly held by Plaintiff."

Garland, who typically refrains from engaging in politics, did not address either debate, but instead talked about the importance of the rule of law in upholding democracy.

“The rule of law means that the law treats each of us alike,” he said. “There is not one rule for friends, another for foes; one rule for the powerful, another for the powerless; one rule for the rich, another for the poor; or different rules, depending upon one’s race or ethnicity or country of origin.”
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Garland indirectly calls out Loose Cannon in emotional Ellis Island speech (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
Nah, CANNON's ears don't have a ringing function UTUSN Sep 2022 #1
Sic 'em! Brainfodder Sep 2022 #2
I love AG Garland. sheshe2 Sep 2022 #3
Cannon cites to "priniciples of equity" gratuitous Sep 2022 #4
Do you have the full speech? malaise Sep 2022 #5
Remarks as delivered.... reACTIONary Sep 2022 #10
Thanks malaise Sep 2022 #12
Sometimes it takes a village, sometimes a HAMMER. Nt reACTIONary Sep 2022 #15
And dealt with political divisions and violence. wnylib Sep 2022 #25
He said a lot in a fenwords malaise Sep 2022 #26
Wonderful ...nt Jarqui Sep 2022 #16
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Sep 2022 #6
Cannon needs a job suited to her reasoning ability -- Burger King may be hiring. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #7
I think you're giving Judge Qannon MontanaMama Sep 2022 #8
You're right. "Due to your special privilege, you get 100% off today!" "You're fired." Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #9
And her new name is born malaise Sep 2022 #21
Toilet seat model. The Wizard Sep 2022 #19
It's Constitution Day BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #11
Thank you elleng Sep 2022 #20
Just read down and you'll get a special message from Turd Cruise. plimsoll Sep 2022 #29
Empty words SledDriver Sep 2022 #13
I don't think it's for our benefit. plimsoll Sep 2022 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #14
Rt TY So Much & Cha Sep 2022 #17
I'm impressed -- and Biden chose the real deal for AG Hekate Sep 2022 #18
I refuse to believe he doesn't have enough to arrest the orange cancer on something Fullduplexxx Sep 2022 #22
Emotional indeed. soldierant Sep 2022 #23
I don't have a copy of it, but my uncle wnylib Sep 2022 #27
The piece of shit cultist judge doesn't give a shit dalton99a Sep 2022 #24
Merrick Garland lectures on 'the rule of law' after Trump judge ruled TFG deserves special treatment LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #28

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
2. Sic 'em!
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 06:59 PM
Sep 2022

Patience is a virtue and all....

BUT GET ON WITH IT please!

So obvious, his name is starting to make me wanna hurl when I am already weary!

I am starting to wish ill on anyone still supporting the shithead!

Him losing freedumb PERMANENTLY by Thanksgiving, now that....

Don't be hoarding all the champagne!





BumRushDaShow

(127,331 posts)
11. It's Constitution Day
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 08:30 PM
Sep 2022

235th anniversary! Probably something that Loose Cannon doesn't believe applies to certain people.




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SledDriver

(2,049 posts)
13. Empty words
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 08:41 PM
Sep 2022

There are people above the law due to wealth or position.

Nothing will happen to TFG. Lots of special rules for him. Nothing will happen to the ringleaders of J6 either.

This is all just a show to make us believe that they will be held accountable.

plimsoll

(1,664 posts)
30. I don't think it's for our benefit.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 05:51 PM
Sep 2022

It's for other people. When we see TFG skating and his hand picked boot lickers ...I mean judges saying he's special we know that the constitution has been completely abandoned by some portion of our society.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

soldierant

(6,648 posts)
23. Emotional indeed.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 09:44 PM
Sep 2022

I was born here, but it would be worth not having been if I could immigrate and be sworn n by Garland. Very lucky new citizens. A big welcome to them.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
27. I don't have a copy of it, but my uncle
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 09:56 PM
Sep 2022

once showed me the certificate saying that my great grandfather renounced being a subject of the German Empire, renounced all allegiance to Kaiser Wilhelm II, and swore allegiance to the United States of America.

That was my mother's side of the family.

On my father's side, half had come to America before there was a United States and the other half were already in America before Europeans arrived.



LetMyPeopleVote

(144,005 posts)
28. Merrick Garland lectures on 'the rule of law' after Trump judge ruled TFG deserves special treatment
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:17 AM
Sep 2022

Loose Cannon is wrong. TFG does not deserve special treatment. Already, MAGAnuts are asking for special masters.



https://www.rawstory.com/merrick-garland-rule-law/

Attorney General Merrick B. Garland explained the concept of the rule of law in a Saturday speech before new immigrants at Ellis Island.

"Everything Mr. Garland says these days is parsed for deeper meaning — and prosecutorial clues — as the Justice Department plunges ahead with sprawling, open-ended investigations into former President Donald J. Trump and his allies. The attorney general often uses public appearances to address Mr. Trump and Trumpism in veiled but unmistakable terms, decrying division and vowing to hold 'the powerful' accountable for crimes they commit," The New York Times reported.

"But Saturday’s speech came at a critical moment, as Mr. Garland commits to an inquiry into possible criminality by a former president who remains a political force, and has repeatedly attacked Mr. Garland, his department and the F.B.I."

Garland's speech came only days after Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon issued a highly criticized ruling claiming Trump deserved special treatment as a former president.......

The protection of law — the rule of law — is the foundation of our system of government,” Garland told the new citizens.

“The rule of law means that the law treats each of us alike: There is not one rule for friends, another for foes; one rule for the powerful, another for the powerless; a rule for the rich, another for the poor,” Garland said.

Garland argued the rule of law “is fragile, it demands constant effort and vigilance.

Cannon was widely criticized for arguing Trump deserved different than everyone else.

"Based on the nature of this action, the principles of equity require the Court to consider the specific context at issue, and that consideration is inherently impacted by the position formerly held by Plaintiff," Cannon wrote.

Harvard Law's Laurence Tribe tweeted Cannon, "ends her denial of a stay by saying (in effect) former presidents are entitled to special treatment."




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