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babylonsister

(170,962 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:55 AM Sep 2022

Who created the brochure?

Who created the brochure?
Published by Tom Sullivan on September 19, 2022
Migrants DeSantis flew to Martha’s Vineyard were conned




Judd Legum of Popular Information this morning has “documentary evidence that migrants from Venezuela were provided with false information to convince them to board flights chartered by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R). The documents suggest that the flights were not just a callous political stunt but potentially a crime.”

They were provided with a phony brochure touting benefits they’d receive in Massachusetts. Their applications for asylum in progress, they were legally allowed to travel within the United States. Some were told they would get expedited work permits in Boston if they boarded the planes DeSantis sent to Texas to fetch them:

The allegation that the migrants were misled is legally significant. It would mean that the flights were not just heartless, but potentially criminal. If the migrants were misled, the scheme to transport them to Martha’s Vineyard could constitute fraud, false imprisonment, or kidnapping. “There is absolutely the possibility of both civil and criminal liability if people were lied to about where they were going [or] what they were going to get when they got there,” lawyer Susan Church told Politico.

DeSantis has been adamant that the migrants were not misled. He claims that migrants were provided with a map showing the destination was Martha’s Vineyard and describes the flights as “all voluntary.” Appearing on Fox News on Sunday Morning, Florida Lt. Governor Jeanette Nunez (R) called allegations that the migrants were misled “categorically false.”

Popular Information, however, has obtained a brochure that was provided to the migrants who ultimately agreed to the flights. It was provided to Popular Information by Lawyers for Civil Rights (LCR), a Boston-based legal organization that represents 30 of the migrants. The brochure says that migrants who arrive in Massachusetts will be eligible for numerous benefits, including “8 months cash assistance,” “assistance with housing,” “food,” “clothing,” “transportation to job interviews,” “job training,” “job placement,” “registering children for school,” “assistance applying for Social Security cards,” and many other benefits.

None of this, however, is true.


See above.

Matt Cameron, a Boston-based immigration attorney, explained that the benefits described in the brochure are resettlement benefits available to refugees who have been referred by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and authorized to live in the United States. These benefits are not available in Massachusetts to the migrants who boarded the flights, who are still in the process of seeking asylum.

The migrants who boarded the planes “absolutely do not have access to cash, housing, and other resettlement benefits which are provided through both federal funds and partnerships with faith-based [organizations],” Cameron said
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https://digbysblog.net/2022/09/19/who-created-the-brochure/
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Who created the brochure? (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2022 OP
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2022 #1
DeSantis should have his ass handed to him for all of his crap!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2022 #2
Oh, I agree. Solly Mack Sep 2022 #3
He has something like 47 billionaires backing his reelection. Fairness is gone! RKP5637 Sep 2022 #6
That is true. Solly Mack Sep 2022 #10
Show us the MAP! sanatanadharma Sep 2022 #4
I found the map sanatanadharma Sep 2022 #9
The map implies a direct flight from Texas to Massachusetts gratuitous Sep 2022 #13
Good point sanatanadharma Sep 2022 #14
No city names on this map. scarletlib Sep 2022 #26
kick blogslug Sep 2022 #5
Did any of the migrants actually have copies of this brochure on them? Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #7
From the article... Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #15
This is Fraud. Brenda Sep 2022 #8
It's in a foreign language Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #17
It's in English and Spanish LeftInTX Sep 2022 #43
I know, I was making a joke Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #53
I know a Trumpbilly that learned Spanish just to boss his cheap labor around. czarjak Sep 2022 #51
K&R 2naSalit Sep 2022 #11
Dimes to donuts all the graphics were illegally used Brother Buzz Sep 2022 #12
Naa..it looks like public domain stuff.. LeftInTX Sep 2022 #39
Tabitha Hawk Photography. I think she might be pissed that her image was used for this. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #47
That's funny. Welcome signs are almost always available on public domain LeftInTX Sep 2022 #48
I just updated my prior post. She's a Seth MacFarlane (staunch Democrat) fan. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #49
I hope she sues. It pisses me off when I get used like that. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2022 #52
Will Bodine is wondering how HIS fake Massachusetts flag ended up in the brochure Brother Buzz Sep 2022 #58
Motherfucker, may you burn in Hell! Cozmo Sep 2022 #16
"There is absolutely the possibility of both civil and criminal liability" progressoid Sep 2022 #18
but they will talk about it for YEARS Skittles Sep 2022 #31
A LAWYER IN FLORIDA? Jimvanhise Sep 2022 #19
WELL, ancianita Sep 2022 #36
Beware Traildogbob Sep 2022 #20
I'll bet the investigation has already started. Martin68 Sep 2022 #21
We literally have been waiting DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #25
KnR Hekate Sep 2022 #22
Someone in their office did, and here's how I know jmowreader Sep 2022 #23
Yep! LeftInTX Sep 2022 #28
So it may well be a fake fake? Xoan Sep 2022 #30
Exactly someone in Texas or Florida created this LeftInTX Sep 2022 #32
I agree MS word and cheapo printer. we can do it Sep 2022 #34
The lack of bleeds screams "office color copier/printer" Qutzupalotl Sep 2022 #42
Another thing jmowreader Sep 2022 #45
Exactly my take BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #54
There is a good chance... jmowreader Sep 2022 #56
You don't even need a machine from an office BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #57
Do brochures like these for refugees exist? herding cats Sep 2022 #24
Generally brochures printed by a govt agency will have a form number on them LeftInTX Sep 2022 #29
Thanks! herding cats Sep 2022 #37
The text matches that on a Mass.gov website FBaggins Sep 2022 #33
Made it easier on them, I'm sure. nt herding cats Sep 2022 #38
DeSatan is an evil bastard. Karma is coming for him. n/t iluvtennis Sep 2022 #27
this was specifically printed for the Martha's Vineyard stunt mainer Sep 2022 #35
It's a very basic style that can be done on one's home computer ashredux Sep 2022 #40
RWNJs have called it "the people's republic of Massachusetts" for ages Warpy Sep 2022 #41
Looks like the fake MA state flag was pinched from Imgur EleanorR Sep 2022 #44
LOL LeftInTX Sep 2022 #46
Who Lied like a Fascist Magat! Cha Sep 2022 #50
K&R spanone Sep 2022 #55

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
6. He has something like 47 billionaires backing his reelection. Fairness is gone!
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:23 PM
Sep 2022

He's awash in cash for his elections.

sanatanadharma

(3,639 posts)
4. Show us the MAP!
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:13 PM
Sep 2022

'DeSantis has been adamant that the migrants were not misled. He claims that migrants were provided with a map showing the destination was Martha’s Vineyard..."

Show us the map. Some one of the 'relocated' must have the map that waas provided.
De Santis certainly has one available; perhaps still wet off the printer.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. The map implies a direct flight from Texas to Massachusetts
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:51 PM
Sep 2022

But by all independent accounts, the planes made a little detour to Florida for some reason. Seems like a significant detail to omit.

Wounded Bear

(58,437 posts)
7. Did any of the migrants actually have copies of this brochure on them?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:24 PM
Sep 2022

I know this is shit we all hope is probitive, but have we seen actual people carrying these with them? It seems like something they would have held onto for the trip.

Phoenix61

(16,951 posts)
15. From the article...
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:27 PM
Sep 2022

“Popular Information, however, has obtained a brochure that was provided to the migrants who ultimately agreed to the flights. It was provided to Popular Information by Lawyers for Civil Rights (LCR), a Boston-based legal organization that represents 30 of the migrants. “

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
17. It's in a foreign language
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:32 PM
Sep 2022

So, they thought Americans couldn't read it and they would get away with it.

No GOPers know Spanish, so the Trumpers are blaming libs for this.

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
53. I know, I was making a joke
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 09:49 AM
Sep 2022

Most GOPers hate to hear Spanish spoken and act like it's an affront to their values when they hear a foreign language.

TheBlackAdder

(28,072 posts)
47. Tabitha Hawk Photography. I think she might be pissed that her image was used for this.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 06:58 PM
Sep 2022

.

It's image restricted, so you can't just copy/paste it without going through some actions.

https://www.tabithahawk.com/gallery-image/All-50-State-Welcome-Signs/G0000KKSkgyxh.PU/I0000vJA0s3kDKfA/C0000EQu0b5iT5sU


Copyright:Tabitha Hawk
Keywords:
State Road Sign, Welcome sign, Welcome State Sign, Welcome To State Sign, State Sign


She either sold its use or someone stole it.


Choose print sizes & finishes for this image.
Prices are for professional prints produced by archival quality ink jet printers and inspected for color accuracy and overall quality. Prints come unsigned, unmounted, and unframed directly from New York.

I personally recommend Lustre for the paper type.

Note that all prints are for personal use only. They may not be reproduced, nor is any commercial or editorial license granted. By purchasing this print, you agree to these terms.



There is a download option for commercial use, but you have to fill out a form defining its purpose.

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Brother Buzz

(36,212 posts)
58. Will Bodine is wondering how HIS fake Massachusetts flag ended up in the brochure
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:29 AM
Sep 2022
How did an image of a fake Massachusetts flag end up in a brochure for Martha’s Vineyard migrants?

That’s what Will Bodine, who created the design two years ago, wants to know.

By Spencer Buell Globe Staff,
Updated September 21, 2022, 2:45 p.m.



Will Bodine hadn’t given his redesign of the Massachusetts state flag much thought in a while.

Two summers ago, he whipped up the image in “upwards of 10 minutes” on his computer. The concept was simple: a blue shield emblazoned with the official state flower — the mayflower — encircled by six blue stars, all splashed against a white backdrop.

Bodine, who lives in Pittsfield, showed it to a few friends and shared it on Facebook. He also uploaded it to Imgur, an image-hosting website, where, until recently, it had only been viewed a few times.

“Not officially or anything,” he wrote. “I just think the current one [expletive] so I made this one featuring the state flower.”

So on Tuesday, it came as a complete surprise when Bodine learned his reimagined design was embroiled in the national controversy involving Venezuelan migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard unannounced last week.

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https://archive.ph/56UZB#selection-1443.0-1447.77

progressoid

(49,825 posts)
18. "There is absolutely the possibility of both civil and criminal liability"
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:33 PM
Sep 2022

Not gonna hold my breath hoping that will happen.

Jimvanhise

(294 posts)
19. A LAWYER IN FLORIDA?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:34 PM
Sep 2022

DeSantis is a lawyer but he keeps doing things which are clearly illegal, such as breaking the state's 50 plus year old contract with Disneyworld without cause, passing laws which violate the First Amendment and now committing outright fraud. So he cannot claim ignorance of the law.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
36. WELL,
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:18 PM
Sep 2022

can you prove it? Can the lawyers in MA prove the connection between the printers of this brochure and DeSantis?

Traildogbob

(8,571 posts)
20. Beware
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:40 PM
Sep 2022

Trump will not get backing for re election from DeSatan type billionaires. They fully intend on sliding DeSatan into the White House. Signs are popping up everywhere trump signs use to reside with a Picture of DeSatan and the Words, “Make America Florida”.
And by 2024 they may have complete control of elections after SC rules on NC legislature electors case. Our best hope, kick asses in 2022 and fix the voting destruction. Or we may Have President DeSatan and VP Green.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
25. We literally have been waiting
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:55 PM
Sep 2022

for nearly six years, and so far ZERO. We are investigating everything these days it seems.

Trumps last "rally", he outright declared the DOJ, and FBI, and Biden, and Dems were all in a conspiracy against him and the Republicans.

If I were in the FBI or DOJ, I would fear doing anything to Trump or his Minions, because it would be the "shot heard round the world" to the Trumphumpers to break loose across the entire U.S. at every state capital.......

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
23. Someone in their office did, and here's how I know
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:53 PM
Sep 2022

Look at the folds. If a print shop had done this, it would have been folded in one of two ways. If the paper is thin enough it can be put in a folding machine that gives a nice clean line all the way down the sheet. If it’s a thicker stock it would have been scored first and then folded. This sheet was bent over and pinched together with fingers. You can see it.

The cheap crappy clip art and the squished lighthouse photo, the God-awful typography and the fact it’s not on glossy paper are also giveaways. State agencies LOVE 80-pound enamel text paper; this is like the stuff you get at Staples.

This thing just absolutely screams “I was done in Microsoft Publisher and printed on the office copier!”

Qutzupalotl

(14,230 posts)
42. The lack of bleeds screams "office color copier/printer"
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

whereas something professionally designed and printed would take advantage of offset press capabilities. So I'm with you, this is just some Bozo doing this surreptitiously.

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
45. Another thing
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 06:44 PM
Sep 2022

If a real designer would have done this, the whole thing would be in one language. You wouldn't have one panel with English text and one with Spanish; the whole trifold would be in Spanish and only Spanish. This is because you'd have a brochure in Spanish, one in Portuguese for Brazilians, one in Chinese, one in Korean, one in Russian...

BumRushDaShow

(127,297 posts)
54. Exactly my take
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 10:29 AM
Sep 2022

That is a "home made" printed thing on some inkjet printer on cheap paper (not even worthy of a color laserjet). Might have been done on 8 x 14" paper to provide 4.5" wide columns for the folds (leaving 1/2" total overlap of the ends of 1/4" on each end).

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
56. There is a good chance...
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 12:04 PM
Sep 2022

…that the state offices wherever this was done have multifunction copiers like the one we have at work. Mine has copier, fax and printer capability, does double sided print on fairly thick stock, and prints double sided. It’s a laser printer.

BumRushDaShow

(127,297 posts)
57. You don't even need a machine from an office
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 12:40 PM
Sep 2022

I have a HP Officejet Pro (inkjet) printer/copier/scanner/fax machine that does the same - 50-sheet feeder, 2-sided printing, plus thick stock, and photo paper (various sizes and finishes - whether matte or shiny), and it's not even a laser printer.

That faded/blotchy printing of the image of the state of Massachusetts looks inkjet-like as if the ink cartridges were starting to run out and/or there was a need to clean the print heads!

herding cats

(19,549 posts)
24. Do brochures like these for refugees exist?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:53 PM
Sep 2022

That's a pivotal question. The brochure provided matches verbal information given to the Venezuelan migrants seeking asylum and yet clearly states it's for refugees.

If you go to the mass.gov website and look at the ORI section you can find this:

Other Benefits Available to Refugees
Additional services available to refugees resettled in Massachusetts
Reception and Placement Services (funded through the United States Department of State directly with resettlement agencies (a.k.a. voluntary agencies (volags)) facilitates the placement of refugees in the United States for resettlement.

During the first 90 days after a refugee's arrival in Massachusetts, resettlement agencies provide basic needs support including:

assistance with housing
furnishings
food and other basic necessities
clothing, and
transportation to job interviews and job training
assistance in applying for social security cards
registering children for school
using public transportation, facilities, and services
community and cultural orientation


Matching Grant Program (funded through the Office of Refugee Resettlement) - The Match Grant Program is a public/private partnership between a resettlement agency and the Office of Refugee Resettlement under which refugee resettlement costs are shared by the government and a local community. Resettlement agencies who resettle refugees under the Match Grant Program provide cash assistance and in-kind support for refugees for an additional 90 days beyond the normal 30-day period for Reception and Placement assistance.
https://www.mass.gov/service-details/other-benefits-available-to-refugees


Which has me wondering if they deliberately handed out real brochures for an entirely different process to these migrants?

LeftInTX

(24,549 posts)
29. Generally brochures printed by a govt agency will have a form number on them
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:00 PM
Sep 2022

Additionally, I highly doubt that a refugee settlement brochure would include kitschy clip art.

The state does have emergency info brochures. They don't have them in Spanish, but I downloaded one in French.

The only word I recognized was blizzard..It instructs refugees on basic safety precautions that one needs to take etc.

The Arabic brochure is available as a PDF

https://www.mass.gov/doc/emergency-preparation-arabic-0/download

herding cats

(19,549 posts)
37. Thanks!
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:19 PM
Sep 2022

They manufactured the fake brochure and used it as a tool to lie to the migrants then.

I'm not surprised, but also I wouldn't have been surprised to learn they used a real government brochure in a misleading fashion.

mainer

(12,013 posts)
35. this was specifically printed for the Martha's Vineyard stunt
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:18 PM
Sep 2022

This brochure directs them to Vineyard addresses. I doubt any such official brochure for immigrants exists for a tiny island like MV.

ashredux

(2,593 posts)
40. It's a very basic style that can be done on one's home computer
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:51 PM
Sep 2022

It’s a very basic style that can be done on one’s home computer

Warpy

(110,900 posts)
41. RWNJs have called it "the people's republic of Massachusetts" for ages
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

which should have displayed their profound ignorance but which other ignorant people took as absolute fact. It is not.

However, that's one thing that is at work here, the ignorance and acceptance of lies as fact by weak minded people. That's who designed this brochure. You'd have to prove they knew better, and that's a tall order for Texans, especially.

The toxic stew of ignorance, lies, hate, and racism, all amplified by toadlike governors, won't stop until it is stopped, preferably by levying human trafficking charges against both Abbott and De Satan. Otherwise, they'll keep on doing it over and over again because that's how RWNJs roll.

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