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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer Top Republican Officials File Brief In Support Of DOJ Classified Docs Appeal
This is a well done brief
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Top former Republican officials spanning every Republican presidency back to Ronald Reagan have filed a brief in support of the DOJs appeal on the Trump classified docs case......
Democracy 21 summarized the amicus brief to the 11th Circuit Court:
,,,,,,Third, a former President is entitled to no greater protection under the law than any other citizen.
The District Courts analysis, the brief points out, which gave greater weight to the reputation of a former President than to the reputation of any other citizen, and greater weight to that personal reputation than to national security concerns, is fundamentally inconsistent with the basic tenets of U.S. law.
In addition, the brief states, concern for reputational harm that the District Court noted in its decision is not a valid basis for enjoining a criminal investigation, especially one that is inexorably intertwined with a national security damage assessment.
There is no basis, according to the brief, for applying a different rule to former President Trump, effectively endowing him with greater procedural rights than those afforded to other citizens.
To do so, the brief continues, would belie the fundamental principal established in United States v. Lee (1882), that [a]ll the officers of the government, from the highest to the lowest, are creatures of the law and are bound to obey it.
Democracy 21 summarized the amicus brief to the 11th Circuit Court:
,,,,,,Third, a former President is entitled to no greater protection under the law than any other citizen.
The District Courts analysis, the brief points out, which gave greater weight to the reputation of a former President than to the reputation of any other citizen, and greater weight to that personal reputation than to national security concerns, is fundamentally inconsistent with the basic tenets of U.S. law.
In addition, the brief states, concern for reputational harm that the District Court noted in its decision is not a valid basis for enjoining a criminal investigation, especially one that is inexorably intertwined with a national security damage assessment.
There is no basis, according to the brief, for applying a different rule to former President Trump, effectively endowing him with greater procedural rights than those afforded to other citizens.
To do so, the brief continues, would belie the fundamental principal established in United States v. Lee (1882), that [a]ll the officers of the government, from the highest to the lowest, are creatures of the law and are bound to obey it.
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Former Top Republican Officials File Brief In Support Of DOJ Classified Docs Appeal (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
Sep 2022
OP
I have looked at a couple of other posts and they are all missing page 3
LetMyPeopleVote
Sep 2022
#8
May not be a better copy and this one's fine -- it allows copy & paste of the text, too.
Hermit-The-Prog
Sep 2022
#11
Loose Qannon has been publicly taken to the woodshed, regardless of what the 11th does.
Hermit-The-Prog
Sep 2022
#9
Where are the lawyers dissecting and praising this filing? Am I reading more into it than is there?
Hermit-The-Prog
Sep 2022
#12
FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)1. K & R
triron
(21,994 posts)2. This is great. Telling judge Cannon to stick her decision up her butt
Where it belongs.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,079 posts)3. This is a well done brief
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)4. Got a link to the brief?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,079 posts)5. Here's a link to the full Amicus Brief filed with the 11th circuit
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)6. Thanks!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)7. It's missing page 3 of the brief, giving background of the case.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,079 posts)8. I have looked at a couple of other posts and they are all missing page 3
I will keep my eye out for a better copy
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)11. May not be a better copy and this one's fine -- it allows copy & paste of the text, too.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)9. Loose Qannon has been publicly taken to the woodshed, regardless of what the 11th does.
I wonder how it feels to show up on a national stage wearing a clown suit when you're supposed to be in judicial robes.
The district courts order does not grapple with the law. Instead, it simply
asserts that there is a dispute about whether the records are actually classified
and whether the former President has a possessory interest in classified records.4
4 Even after recognizing that a movant under Rule 41(g) must allege a colorable
ownership, possessory or security interest in the property at issue, the court
refused to engage with caselaw that clearly forecloses any argument that
President Trump has a possessory interest in any of the classified materials.
ECF No. 89 at 45. Rather, the court justified its refusal to evaluate the parties
arguments on the merits on the fact that the parties disputed some of the issues.
But there is no contested legal or factual issue that casts doubt on the merits of
the former Presidents motion, at least as to the 100 documents that are the
subject of this appeal. It is the courts most fundamental responsibility to
resolve the parties disputes based on the applicable legal principles. That
responsibility cannot be avoided (or delayed) through the appointment of a
special master where precedent does not otherwise permit that appointment.
The district court did not address any of this well-established law, or the
former Presidents concession. In fact, the district courts order denying the
Governments motion for a partial stay does not even contain the words
Presidential records or a citation to the PRA. Instead, the court referred vaguely
to important and disputed issues related to privilege that needed to be resolved
by a special master. ECF No. 89 at 4. But the issue as to whether a former
President has a possessory interest in Presidential records was disputed only to
the extent the former President refused to concede the legally obvious, not because
there is actually a legitimate legal dispute to be had.
To allow a former president to assert executive
privilege here would turn the privilege on its head by impeding the effective
operation of the Executive, and it would be an especially bizarre perversion of the
privilege to allow a former president to use it to thwart a core executive function
like a criminal investigation into mishandling of classified information.
In short, the district court declined to address in any meaningful way the
Governments argument that the former President has no colorable claim of executive privilege in this case. Instead, without making any finding that former
President Trumps assertion of executive privilege against the current Executive
Branch has a strong likelihood of success on the merits, the district courtin its
initial order and again in its subsequent order denying the Governments motion
for a partial stay pending appealdeclined to assess at all whether a likely
successful claim of executive privilege exists, instead enjoining the Government
and essentially leaving it to the special master to sort out.10 In so doing, the district
court not only put the cart before the horse, it essentially abdicated its
responsibility to make any finding of a strong likelihood of success on the merits
on this critical issue. But that was a determination that the district court: (1) was
required to make before it could grant the extraordinary equitable relief of
enjoining a criminal investigation; and (2) should also have made in connection
with its ruling on the Governments motion for a partial stay pending appeal.
The district court repeated its error of privileging the former President when
it denied the Governments motion for a stay. In a final section called Relevant
Principles, the court asserted that the principles of equity require it to consider
the position formerly held by Plaintiff. ECF No. 89 at 910. The court did not
explain what that statement meant, but whatever the court intended to imply, the
assertion is wrong.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)10. KnR
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)12. Where are the lawyers dissecting and praising this filing? Am I reading more into it than is there?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,079 posts)13. This was a very strong brief
I thought that is was well done. It will be interesting to see if the 11TH Circuit accepts this amicus brief