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madamesilverspurs

(15,782 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 11:49 PM Sep 2022

Second episode of "The US and the Holocaust"

Didn’t hold back on Lindbergh’s pro-Nazi and anti-Semitic sentiments. Same for the “America First” movement whose current descendants, if they’re watching at all, are likely already spewing invective about the producers. It’s hard to listen to the childhood memories of cruelty, hard to watch the grisly scenes of the Nazis fulfilling their intent, and impossible to pretend that we aren’t hearing the echoes of those horrors in the words and actions of a shocking number of governors and legislators. And those echoes are broadcast every day across our media.

Will be interesting to see if the documentary mentions Henry Ford's contributions to the Reich, along with the involvement of other American automakers.


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Second episode of "The US and the Holocaust" (Original Post) madamesilverspurs Sep 2022 OP
IiIRC, there were comments about Ford in ep.1. n/t CincyDem Sep 2022 #1
There were a couple of mentions of Henry Ford's yorkster Sep 2022 #2
His anti-Semitism was only a small part. madamesilverspurs Sep 2022 #8
It was mentioned briefly in part 2 dsc Sep 2022 #13
Do they show his documentaries in history Tree Lady Sep 2022 #3
I watched episode one... Hugin Sep 2022 #4
So in the small city that has it's claim to fame on Lindbergh PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #5
I'm watching Part 2 now, it's really tough since we know the history. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #6
It was devastating to watch Buckeyeblue Sep 2022 #11
It certainly was - so tough to watch. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #12
Part #3 is must watch TV KS Toronado Sep 2022 #7
It was very good. Behind the Aegis Sep 2022 #9
The propagandists then and now are very similar, just the means are different. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #10
Episode one showed Ford making military vehicles for Hitler. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #14

yorkster

(1,421 posts)
2. There were a couple of mentions of Henry Ford's
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 12:30 AM
Sep 2022

antisemitism in part1. Will watch part 2 tomorrow.

Yes, it is hard not to see many parallels, especially when it comes to the hate filled rabble rousing and the slow but systemic application of fear and force on so many fronts.

madamesilverspurs

(15,782 posts)
8. His anti-Semitism was only a small part.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 03:20 AM
Sep 2022

He was heavily involved with helping to modernize the Reich's industrial processes, so much so that he received a citation from Hitler himself. Ford and other American car makers had factories in Germany that helped to produce vehicles for the German military; after the war they sued the US government for reparations for the damages caused by allied bombers. American bankers (including Walker/Bush) were part of the financial web that funded the Reich. It's no stretch to say that American interests were hedging their bets on both sides of the conflict. Ford felt safe enough to flaunt his views and force them on his employees. It's galling that our "made in America" labels are often affixed to products from companies that never had to answer for being enmeshed in Hitler's plans, says much about where human beings rate in our hierarchy of international relationships.


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Tree Lady

(11,370 posts)
3. Do they show his documentaries in history
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 12:32 AM
Sep 2022

Class? They should show all of them. The facts, some hard to hear but facts.

Hugin

(32,776 posts)
4. I watched episode one...
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 12:36 AM
Sep 2022

It left me numb. I was aware of much of it. However, by tying it together in a timeline along with events in the US and explaining the real inspiration for Hitler’s manifesto it established a clear sequence of events.

PlutosHeart

(1,232 posts)
5. So in the small city that has it's claim to fame on Lindbergh
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 01:01 AM
Sep 2022

wonder if they will see blowback? Need to erect a big wall around his childhood home? Quit giving tours? Maybe petition to remove "Lindbergh Drive" and replace it with another name?
Oh wait! It is the most Republican Maga area in the State with 73% red votes.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
6. I'm watching Part 2 now, it's really tough since we know the history.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 02:21 AM
Sep 2022

And the personal details are so painful.

Buckeyeblue

(5,491 posts)
11. It was devastating to watch
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 06:01 AM
Sep 2022

It's really a reminder of how horrible humanity really is. And has always been. I know that nihilistic.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
12. It certainly was - so tough to watch.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 06:09 AM
Sep 2022

I kept hoping that something could be done - but I know the history. And the details we learned were so painful and heartwrenching.

KS Toronado

(16,901 posts)
7. Part #3 is must watch TV
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 02:25 AM
Sep 2022

Ends with the Jan 6th attack on our Capitol. Hope he shows plenty of Nazi flags being flown that day and asks
if this is direction we want our Country headed in. Burns is exposing the R party for what they really stand for.....
FASCISM. Ken Burns is marrying Nazis & MAGAts together, should encourage everyone to watch.

Explained here......

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016332584

Behind the Aegis

(53,823 posts)
9. It was very good.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 03:27 AM
Sep 2022

Unlike Part 1, I didn't really learn anything new, but that's OK, because I know most people probably did. Good! I don't think many understand how ingrained anti-Semitism was and is in this country. I am hoping that part 3 will expose the Congress at that time and their rank anti-Semitism, even after the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed.

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