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mucifer

(23,478 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 07:31 AM Sep 2022

Illia Ponomarenko. Ukrainian journalist tweets:


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Russia has had a hard time ensuring logistics and supplies for over 150k in Ukraine.
They barely scratched some 10k 50-year-old loan debtors with the 3rd Army Corps in summer.
Now they want +300k mobilized and deployed during winter time?
Well, good luck with that.


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Illia Ponomarenko🇺🇦

@IAPonomarenko
A couple of thoughts:
- The situation with the Russian military in Ukraine is even more dire than we expected, since the Kremlin adhered to such a risky and frantic move
- It will take many months to get 300k drafted - otherwise, there will be nothing but useless crowd



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Illia Ponomarenko🇺🇦

@IAPonomarenko
With those shit show “referenda” in occupied Ukrainian regions, Russia admits — it can’t win.
It has run out of offensive capability, and its current position is dead end at best.
The “mobilization” will only give it some barely trained cannon fodder… in several months.
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Illia Ponomarenko. Ukrainian journalist tweets: (Original Post) mucifer Sep 2022 OP
No kidding. Putin ain't FDR and this isn't December 8, 1941. catbyte Sep 2022 #1
Just In: Putin ADDS 3 meters to his meeting room table, orders all windows above 1st floor bricked. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #8
Then throw him out of a high window. (n/T) Otto_Harper Sep 2022 #20
I'm betting their draft of cannon fodder will go as well as everything else. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #2
Falls! Falls out a window! littlemissmartypants Sep 2022 #3
Falls on two bullets to the back of the head. Ray Bruns Sep 2022 #15
Who will cause that to happen and what will be the "straw?" 3Hotdogs Sep 2022 #5
the russian mentality of war hasn't changed much since ww2 Javaman Sep 2022 #4
Russia also got millions of tons of equipment shipped to them from the US and UK... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #18
exactly. they have no lend lease this time and are begging from the likes of NK.. Javaman Sep 2022 #23
Hope these poor Russian soldiers have plenty of sunflower seeds in their pockets Walleye Sep 2022 #6
Terribly dangerous. James48 Sep 2022 #7
If true this seems to narrow his options, even if delayed. Tadpole Raisin Sep 2022 #9
I SO wish trump would encourage all the magats to go to russia to help them. BComplex Sep 2022 #10
What a lovely thought. Send all the white supremacists and anti-government militias. Lonestarblue Sep 2022 #12
Plus, they're all really cowards at heart. Seeing a little real live blood in wartime BComplex Sep 2022 #14
Rather Be Russian than.... Not aging well either! Brainfodder Sep 2022 #19
What are these 300K+ troops supposed to use for transport and armaments? /nt localroger Sep 2022 #11
Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update. niyad Sep 2022 #13
Germany had it's Hitler Youth in WWII KS Toronado Sep 2022 #16
I think Trump is advising Putin now. I read that McDonalds is open i Russia again. mjvpi Sep 2022 #17
Putin should pull a Trump. Withdrawal and declare complete victory. He will say he killed all those Pepsidog Sep 2022 #21
A lot of Russian kids are going to die. lpbk2713 Sep 2022 #22

catbyte

(34,333 posts)
1. No kidding. Putin ain't FDR and this isn't December 8, 1941.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 07:38 AM
Sep 2022

And even then, my dad signed up for the US Marines on December 9 and wasn't on a transport to the Pacific until April 1942. Somebody needs to slip that monster a polonium cocktail.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
8. Just In: Putin ADDS 3 meters to his meeting room table, orders all windows above 1st floor bricked.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:22 AM
Sep 2022

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GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
2. I'm betting their draft of cannon fodder will go as well as everything else.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 07:40 AM
Sep 2022

I'm thinking Putin gets tossed out a window before any of them see the battlefield.

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
4. the russian mentality of war hasn't changed much since ww2
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:01 AM
Sep 2022

they are going for the "many bodies" into the fight concept. All to try and overwhelm Ukraine's army.

that worked in WW2 because the winter did most of the work on the nazis ability to fight.

this time, not so much and will result in horrible amounts of useless killing of russian poor fucks strong armed into serving.

I predict sometime in the spring after one failed russian offensive after another, russia collapses.

And from the point of view of a Ukrainian soldier; it will be just has horrible having to mow down untrained and an unwilling enemy.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
18. Russia also got millions of tons of equipment shipped to them from the US and UK...
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:59 AM
Sep 2022

we're backing the other horse this time around.

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
23. exactly. they have no lend lease this time and are begging from the likes of NK..
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:12 AM
Sep 2022

for additional munitions. Not a good sign for them.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
9. If true this seems to narrow his options, even if delayed.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:42 AM
Sep 2022

Retreat or say you won and withdraw.

Nuclear option of some kind (can this be scaled down?)

Increased assassination risk if he advances further by whatever means.

How much more can his high ranking officials take while he destroys their country? Backed in a corner, both sociopaths Putin and TFG are proving how dangerous they are and how violence will be employed to destroy their enemies and their people.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
12. What a lovely thought. Send all the white supremacists and anti-government militias.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:50 AM
Sep 2022

And if none of them came back, too bad.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
14. Plus, they're all really cowards at heart. Seeing a little real live blood in wartime
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:53 AM
Sep 2022

(hopefully their own) will likely sober them up a tad. They want what trump and russia are selling? Let them go have a taste!

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
19. Rather Be Russian than.... Not aging well either!
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:05 AM
Sep 2022

If actually Russian, I understand, but ID10Ts, gtfo with your civil unrest in the name of Orange Jesus!

I hear an army needs some quality martyrs!



mjvpi

(1,387 posts)
17. I think Trump is advising Putin now. I read that McDonalds is open i Russia again.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:59 AM
Sep 2022

Trump gave him a plan to supply food for his new conscripts through the winter.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
21. Putin should pull a Trump. Withdrawal and declare complete victory. He will say he killed all those
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:18 AM
Sep 2022

Ukrainian Nazis so job done.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
22. A lot of Russian kids are going to die.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:25 AM
Sep 2022


They will be extended out in the field. Russian logistics won't be able
to replenish food and ammo. The Ukrainian winter will do Putin in.

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