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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:04 AM Sep 2022

I read that there had to be an affidavit or record of every document removed from White House?

Did that happen with all the documents that Trump removed? Did anyone keep a record? How many people knew he was stealing the documents? How did they rationalize it?

Did he "de-classify" all the documents before he lifted them from the White House? That would have been the appropriate time to do it if he was so inclined. But, my gut tells me that he did not "de-classify" anything.

He understands the meaning of espionage. If there were no secret documents related to national security or defense-related, and only the 11,000 clippings, photos, etc, then there would be no charge of espionage. So he had to make up an excuse for why he had possession of Top Secret documents relating to national security. Those documents change the equation entirely. That is why he says he "de-classified" them. It is classified documents that can put his butt in jail.

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I read that there had to be an affidavit or record of every document removed from White House? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2022 OP
And some of those documents are missing. Haggard Celine Sep 2022 #1
We know he is capable. kentuck Sep 2022 #2
Saw a legal commentator last night say there's an EO or memorandum underpants Sep 2022 #3
I've been wondering about this too jmbar2 Sep 2022 #4
I suspect that creep Stephen Miller... Justice matters. Sep 2022 #6
I would think that there should be a record of every classified document tetedur Sep 2022 #5
Someone had to know he was hoarding these classified documents in his private residence. kentuck Sep 2022 #7

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
1. And some of those documents are missing.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:12 AM
Sep 2022

If he was selling that information, I hope they find proof of it. I think he was.

underpants

(182,774 posts)
3. Saw a legal commentator last night say there's an EO or memorandum
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:14 AM
Sep 2022

That declares that certain documents have a change in security status. I’d thought there was a form or something but maybe not.

Oh and


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jmbar2

(4,874 posts)
4. I've been wondering about this too
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:14 AM
Sep 2022

Used to work in the oil and gas industry. They have extremely strict document controls. Although it's all electronic, anytime someone "checks out" a protected document, it is carefully noted and tracked. There is always an electronic trail following the document.

I can't imagine it being looser with nat security documents.

What happened? Who allowed this to happen and why?

tetedur

(820 posts)
5. I would think that there should be a record of every classified document
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:15 AM
Sep 2022

that was "checked out" to show to the president and whether or not it was "checked back in."

If there is no such recording keeping, how would they ever know if something went missing? How would they ever know who could have possibly taken them? It wouldn't make sense to not keep super careful watch over this valuable information.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
7. Someone had to know he was hoarding these classified documents in his private residence.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 12:44 PM
Sep 2022

And nobody said anything.

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