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Does anyone think that Putins threat to start a nuclear war has anything to do with missing (Original Post) Peacetrain Sep 2022 OP
The thought does cross one's mind. niyad Sep 2022 #1
I don't Kaleva Sep 2022 #2
Interesting OLDMDDEM Sep 2022 #3
I doubt it ... nt Jarqui Sep 2022 #4
I think Putin is desperate about further intervention against him from this escalation. Gore1FL Sep 2022 #5
lets imagine...... getagrip_already Sep 2022 #6
No, this is pure desperation. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #7
With TFG and putin, anything is possible. My fear is the damage is already done. mitch96 Sep 2022 #8
Other than maybe info that shows French and UK nuke forces are not 100% trigger ready dutch777 Sep 2022 #9
since nukes are, or better be, 100% deterrent GenXer47 Sep 2022 #10

Gore1FL

(21,118 posts)
5. I think Putin is desperate about further intervention against him from this escalation.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:38 AM
Sep 2022

He is raising the stakes, or at least pretending to out of that fear.

getagrip_already

(14,682 posts)
6. lets imagine......
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:44 AM
Sep 2022

That the docs describing the nucular capabilities were wrt russia. What if we had been ratf#$%ing their nuke program since 1990, and it's capabilities are very low to zero? Russian corruption is very deep, and the military has been selling anything not nailed down since the SU fell. It ouldn't be hard to inject non-functional detonators, or guidance systems, or even payloads.

TFG let Putin found out, and now he is scrambling to make the world think he's still got it? Kind of like tfg's hands. Could also be why he is calling up 1M conscripts, including wimin folk.

But that would all be conspiracy theory shite. Just a what if game. I'm not saying anybody should believe it. Please don't.



GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
7. No, this is pure desperation.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:47 AM
Sep 2022

Much like Trump, he thought he was invincible, and he's waking up to the fact that he's a cornered rat. His invasion has failed badly, and his "mighty" military is getting it's ass kicked by Ukraine. All he has left is his threats. He has made the nuclear war threat previously, so it's not likely the whole documents thing is playing into it.

mitch96

(13,884 posts)
8. With TFG and putin, anything is possible. My fear is the damage is already done.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:55 AM
Sep 2022

I think TFG saw the classified docs as a huge $$ windfall. Jared Kushner obtains 2 billion!
from the saudi gov't for an investment he does not know how to run? Hummmm An easy way to filter money to tRump for secret doc's.These guys are masters at laundering money.
Do they now know Israels nuclear capability? Is it worth 2 billion to the sheik?
Look to where large sums of money are flowing to the tRump organization...
Information is $power$
BTW I have no proof it's just my speculation..
m

"Kushner incorporated the firm after Trump left office and it secured the $2 billion investment from Saudi Arabia six months later"
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-panel-probing-saudi-arabias-investment-kushners-firm-2022-06-02/

dutch777

(2,993 posts)
9. Other than maybe info that shows French and UK nuke forces are not 100% trigger ready
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:56 AM
Sep 2022

I doubt there would be much to encourage Putin to think he could win if he goes nuclear in anything Trump had. Putin knows the US has NATO's back and we have ample nuclear force capable of responding if he chooses to be even more stupid than he has already been. I don't how we respond in some way that is proportional and is not read as an existential threat to Mother Russia inciting greater conflagration, but that is why war planners in the Pentagon have jobs. I suspect that is already well researched and action plans are available for the President to choose. And I am sure EU leaders are seriously nervous as they will bear the brunt of any first Russian nuke attack either directly or due to radioactive fallout, general panic and economic consequences. Sadly, their allowing themselves to get addicted to Russian oil and gas and not being willing to meaningfully respond to the 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea led us all to this point.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
10. since nukes are, or better be, 100% deterrent
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:30 PM
Sep 2022

then it seems to me there shouldn't be any nuclear secrets. Lay it all on the table! We'd all be safer that way.

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