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Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. I called this from the beginning ...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:11 PM
Sep 2022

And not just because I'm cynical about our Justice system when it comes to rich white guys.

It's also because if he solicited a 17 year old for sex for money (which was about the extent of the accusation as far as I ever saw), it would be a state-level charge.

If provable (which is not that easy to do when years have passed), such charges might happen, but it won't be 'trafficking'.

Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
15. Maybe we should be asking where this information is coming from
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:41 PM
Sep 2022


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Greenberg's attorney Fritz Scheller reacts: “I have not received any information from the government regarding its decision to abandon its investigation and prosecution [of Matt Gaetz]. Nevertheless, based on my knowledge of the evidence, I would be surprised by such a decision.”

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U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz unlikely to face charges in sex-trafficking probe, report says https://trib.al/6ONsg7Q
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Scheller represents Joel Greenberg, the former Seminole County tax collector awaiting sentencing for sex trafficking and other crimes. Greenberg has been cooperating with the feds and reportedly has given them information about Gaetz, specifically.
10:23 AM · Sep 23, 2022


The DOJ under Garland is not known for leaking. Perhaps we should be interested in where this *information* came from.
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. Fair point. But another fair point is that 'trafficking' may not be ALL Gaetz is being looked at
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:46 PM
Sep 2022

for.

No trafficking charge != no investigation whatsoever.

I guess time will tell.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
17. "Perhaps we should be interested in where this *information* came from."
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:57 PM
Sep 2022

Yep, I'll believe the case is dropped if/when the DOJ confirms it, not because unnamed sources say prosecutors aren't going to recommend charges for Gaetz.

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
6. How do you know?
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:14 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe the case wasn’t strong enough. Federal prosecutors generally only indict when they’re sure they’ll get a conviction.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. I don't mean to sound like I'm defending Gaetz here ...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:15 PM
Sep 2022

But it's POSSIBLE that the evidence and/or the law ... doesn't support a trafficking charge based on whatever actions Gaetz took.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
9. So they gave a cooperation agreement to his partner...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:19 PM
Sep 2022

Whatever his name was. And spend a year pushing out his sentencing because he was “still cooperating” and after all that time they came up with nothing? So WTF were they doing for the last year???

Case in point:


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SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
10. First you have Bragg, and now we have this charade.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:22 PM
Sep 2022

Why did Gaetz want a pardon then, when tRUMP was offering them? Does that count for anything?

Good God, do your damn job. Investigate deeper. One guy (former friend of Gaetz) was to even testify/perhaps did. I know that they said that the witnesses pulled out, but surely there is more to this case ?

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,008 posts)
13. Well if Twitter pundits say so
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:52 PM
Sep 2022

I’m surprised Palmer didn’t ask for a like and follow along the way.

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