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matt gaetz unlikely to be charged in sex traffickig (Original Post) PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2022 OP
Because there isn't enough evidence AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #1
It's not just about the evidence atreides1 Sep 2022 #3
Jolting news, for sure. I've personally seen video of Gaetz and Greenburg in G-burg's office that allegorical oracle Sep 2022 #15
Greenberg's attorney comments Nevilledog Sep 2022 #6
The DOJ under Garland does leak when they want. former9thward Sep 2022 #11
Well atreides1 Sep 2022 #2
The only two people who have agreed to testify are his Phoenix61 Sep 2022 #4
I am sure people were paid off to keep their mouth shut.... TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #5
Or threatened Walleye Sep 2022 #8
True TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #10
That sounds about right to me. I believe anything about these people Walleye Sep 2022 #13
Well I think you only had to look at him to know that the fix is in one way or another Walleye Sep 2022 #7
What about Identity Theft? blogslug Sep 2022 #9
Justice bought and paid for... RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2022 #12
What's this "reliable witness" bullshit edhopper Sep 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author LAS14 Sep 2022 #16

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,003 posts)
1. Because there isn't enough evidence
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:25 PM
Sep 2022

Do people not understand that you want to actually get them convicted, not just some performative charging to score political points?

atreides1

(16,070 posts)
3. It's not just about the evidence
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:34 PM
Sep 2022

It's the fact that Greenburg is not seen as a reliable witness.

Short of having Gaetz on video, a good defense attorney will be able to show that Greenburg is pond scum...and will say anything to lessen his prison time! And with his father's money, Gaetz will have the best attorney that that money can buy!


"Greenberg has been cooperating with authorities, and though it seems he could provide evidence to incriminate Gaetz, it’s not shocking that the man who faced 33 federal charges ranging from identity theft to embezzlement to sex trafficking isn’t considered a reliable witness."

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
15. Jolting news, for sure. I've personally seen video of Gaetz and Greenburg in G-burg's office that
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:08 PM
Sep 2022

was recorded by a surveillance camera late at night. The two of them were rummaging through the expired driver licenses collected by Greenburg (Floridians can renew their licenses at the tax collector's office). They were looking for licenses that were supposedly a good fit for someone who needed a different ID...for some reason. The video was b&w and grainy because the office was not well lit. Believe it was on PBS some months ago.

Nevilledog

(51,063 posts)
6. Greenberg's attorney comments
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:38 PM
Sep 2022


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Greenberg's attorney Fritz Scheller reacts: “I have not received any information from the government regarding its decision to abandon its investigation and prosecution [of Matt Gaetz]. Nevertheless, based on my knowledge of the evidence, I would be surprised by such a decision.”

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Scheller represents Joel Greenberg, the former Seminole County tax collector awaiting sentencing for sex trafficking and other crimes. Greenberg has been cooperating with the feds and reportedly has given them information about Gaetz, specifically.
10:23 AM · Sep 23, 2022


The DOJ under Garland is not known for leaking. Perhaps we should be interested in where this *information* came from.

former9thward

(31,965 posts)
11. The DOJ under Garland does leak when they want.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:33 PM
Sep 2022

And they are known for that just like every DOJ administration before them. Where do you think all the leaks about the Trump documents came from?

atreides1

(16,070 posts)
2. Well
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:29 PM
Sep 2022

If they can't/won't prosecute Gaetz...then there shouldn't be a deal with Greenburg!

But I don't believe that the prosecutors were ever serious about going after Gaetz!

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
4. The only two people who have agreed to testify are his
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:35 PM
Sep 2022

ex-girlfriend and the buddy who pled guilty to sex-trafficking the same girl. Neither are reliable enough witnesses to make the case.

TheRealNorth

(9,475 posts)
5. I am sure people were paid off to keep their mouth shut....
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:35 PM
Sep 2022

Thats one of the things the 1% does with their money.

TheRealNorth

(9,475 posts)
10. True
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:16 PM
Sep 2022

My presumption was that they were given the option of either taking the hush money or ending up as alligator food.

blogslug

(37,997 posts)
9. What about Identity Theft?
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:47 PM
Sep 2022

As I recall Gaetz and Greenberg took IDs that were supposed to be destroyed and made copies of them.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,667 posts)
12. Justice bought and paid for...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:36 PM
Sep 2022

I really wanted his cell to connect with TFG so they would have friends to talk with

edhopper

(33,554 posts)
14. What's this "reliable witness" bullshit
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:05 PM
Sep 2022

you know how many mobsters they convict on the testimony of other mobsters?
You don't need a nun and a boy scout to testify.
There should be enough evidence if they want to proceed.

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