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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Repubs want to dump Social Security and ObamaCare. Surprise!
Actually, it's no surprise at all. This has been part of their silent agenda for many years. Now, some of them are saying it out loud. In truth, they want to wipe out every liberal social program that Democrats have created over the last 80 years.
Hey, all you Senior MAGA's and Q's out there. How do you feel about that? Fucked? Good.
I can only hope the mainstream media focuses more on what will no longer exist if Republicans ever gain full control of the levers of power. Why are Republicans such pricks? Because all they care about is their own wealth, power, and well-being. Beyond that, they don't really give a damn who becomes impoverished, or who lives or dies. They are the Party of Death, and about a third of Americans keep voting for them. Go figure.
spanone
(135,789 posts)Newsweek "found at least 70 Republican-led attempts to repeal, modify or otherwise curb the Affordable Care Act since its inception as law on March 23, 2010."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_repeal_the_Affordable_Care_Act
hauckeye
(630 posts)She works for an organization that is careful to keep her hours just below the threshold so they dont have to provide benefits .
moonscape
(4,673 posts)Cyrano
(15,027 posts)Republicans, "The Party of Death," doesn't care. I guess that those who keep voting for them are voting for the hate that is all Republicans have to sell. Such voters can't seem to grasp that their own survival is at stake.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Every community will have one if the GOP gains full control. Under a bridge in every town will be a senior encampment.
Chainfire
(17,464 posts)That is who they serve. Their magic is convincing their voters that they are on their sides. Republicans would have 99.9% of the population in rags so that the top .01% could keep stacking up money, and bragging rights. A nation of lords and serfs, as god intended.
Wounded Bear
(58,596 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,321 posts)Then he enrolled for Social Security.
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)Only interested in ratings and advertising revenue.
Bettie
(16,067 posts)retirement planning. Most people in their 40's and 50's would be totally fucked if they got rid of SS, the ACA, and Medicare. Actually, everyone who isn't in the top 2% or so would be screwed.
Apparently, they want people dying in the streets.
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)It on.
Bettie
(16,067 posts)it won't affect THEM.
They will wonder why the leopards ate their faces...
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Cyrano
(15,027 posts)Republicans have been screwing the vast majority of Americans every chance they get. Their owners, big oil, big pharma, the Koch's, etc., are who they're answerable to. As far as the rest of us peasants, they'd step over our bodies in the street without giving it a second thought.
The fact that so many people keep voting for those who are raping them is incomprehensible.
erronis
(15,177 posts)Maybe the people who show up at the RW rallies think their actors fees will keep them alive after.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)The only way they know how to feel good about themselves is if they have someone to look down on. The more awful they are, the more of us they need on the bottom of the pile.
They're broken people. All of them.
KS Toronado
(17,145 posts)Because it'll make them look like a propaganda network much like FQX. They'll wait until something stupid
the Rs do or getting ready to do becomes law before reporting on it.
Cyrano
(15,027 posts)KS Toronado
(17,145 posts)That's one exception to "looking down the road" , there might be others
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)Who really wants that agenda. semi corporate fascists and people who come from independent generational wealth (like TFG) I can't see really anybody else.
Are we a super freaking selfish country or what ?
People want to take away from retirement from old people and health car options for everybody
FU Reagan, your revolution worked and now we have too many selfish drones who no longer can think for themselves.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)(if you can call it an advantage) is that you learn early in life that most people are not very bright, and even more than that are just plain awful. You get a lesson in it nearly every time you stray far enough from your house.
To be fair, I've seen it all over the US, but in the south, people are more blatant about it. Same thing with racism. Southerners are more in your face about the ignorance and racism, but the most racist people I ever met were in places like California, Iowa and South Dakota. When the racist remarks or behaviors shock someone like me who grew up in the buckle of the Southern Bible Belt, you know the racism is bad. After a while, I stopped being shocked and settled into appalled and dismayed, the same way I did growing up in Podunkistan. I guess only I was naive enough to think that things would be different if I left the South, but I had to face that reality.
So it no longer surprises me that so many people are so willfully ignorant, hateful, or what have you. I'm only surprised that anyone over, say, 25 years old is surprised at it.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I never could have imagined the absolute stupidity & hatefulness in the Memphis region.
It still boggles my mind.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I've been to Memphis a few times, and left less than impressed.
But Californians were not exempt from having stupid, racist people.
I witnessed it up close in the mid-80s. Darryl Gates ring a bell? Racist remarks were common conversation in large swaths of LA dinner parties back then. I'm talking middle-class up to well-to-do, not the working classes, although plenty of them were casually racist, too.
A guy I worked with in Silicon Valley finally got fired over his constant racist blatherings on the job. It took a while, but one supervisor finally had the tenacity to work through the union's termination process to get rid of him.
And today? My Sacramento-based brother-in-law (born 1970), is a classic MAGA so awful that his own kids can't live with him anymore. A former brother in law living in SoCal is the same way. His mother can't talk to him on the phone without getting so mad she cries.
Stupid, awful people are everywhere. They're open about it in places like Memphis. They try to play cute about it outside the south, but they fool no one who recognizes what they are.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)But people here are so beaten down, perhaps the result of decades of racism, they are not politically aware at all! No interest.
They live on a steady diet of teeee veeeee, no internet!
Most I've spoken to have no idea about qpukes' plans to end Social Security & Medicare! No idea tfg has filed bankruptcy numerous times, etc., etc., etc.
And no interest in voting.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I've lived down here most of my life. The voting apathy is by design. The old planter caste insures that it's hard to register to vote, hard to stay registered, hard to get to the places to vote, hard to vote when you do get there. And if you somehow manage to clear all of those hurdles, the candidates aren't on the ballot for you, but to force your consent to who the monied class wants in office.
The browner you are, the harder voting is. South Texas might be the exception to that, but everywhere else in the old Confederacy, brown people can expect plenty of pushback if they try to vote.
So many people are too poor to have the means to vote. Even the working poor are so overworked and tired from just trying to keep their families together and their heads above water that all they want to do when they get some free time is veg. If they muster some energy for politics, their information options prey on their anger at their powerlessness to channel it into supporting the very people preying on them.
As someone who's lived in the boonies of the South, I can assure you that another one of the reasons why so many resort to excessive TV watching and substance abuse is because where they live are intellectual deserts. It's when they sit still that they realize, down deep, how impoverished their lives are, beyond money. No museums, no libraries, no bookstores, no concert halls, not even reliable internet, no crafts clubs--none of that. Not even decent schools with good community outreach. Maybe a church, the radio and the TV.
That's not enough to enrich their lives, and they know it. So they escape into the boob tube or mind-altering substances, and become too disaffected to vote.
The only solution for most of them is to move to big cities or blue states for quality of life, the younger the better, but that takes having the mental and emotional toughness to pack up and move. And the means. Too many people in the south don't have any of that. By design.
And so those who can't leave for whatever reason stay, their lives slowly spiraling down a drain of apathy or self-destruction. Why care about politics that does nothing for you, candidates that do nothing for you? You're just too damned tired and beaten down all the time to do something about everything being stacked against you.
peggysue2
(10,819 posts)I, too, was a northern transplant. The Uber-religiosity and Neo-Confederate love was mind-boggling. The first time I saw a truck decked out with Confederate flags including all sorts of Obama slurs written on the windows, I knew I was a stranger in a strange land. There was another guy who drove a van down Rt 40 blaring all kinds of religious tripe and hateful messaging. A total nutwad. And don't even ask me about a run-in I had with another Homeowner's rep., a guy who wanted to put armed men at the front of our subdivision and require ID for entrance and exit.
Nuts!
It's all hate and fear and grievance writ large. Virulent, vicious. It's not everyone, of course. But it's enough people to make you watch your back and wonder: what the hell ever happened to these malcontents to turn them into such spiteful goons? Were they always there, just hiding under the rocks? When you look at US history, I tend to think that's probably the case, a strain of unAmerican bigotry and ignorance that raises its ugly head again and again.
This time, the haters came out of their holes on invitation. It's well past the time to push them back under the rocks!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I nearly lost it the day I was in a store checking out & a redneck pulled into the parking lot with a machine gun mounted atop his jeep.
I asked him if it works & he smirked & said "no. They wouldn't let me have a working one on the jeep."
Needless to say, the jeep was filled with little kids.
There are so many situations I could relate, all of which would have been unbelieveable when I lived somewhere civilized.
I agree that these magats were invited to spew their vitriol & they need to be pushed back under the rocks they've crawled out from under.
That will only happen though, when those breaking laws are arrested, tried, & punished to the max under the law.
Anything less only serves to embolden them, as we see daily.
peggysue2
(10,819 posts)It wasn't until I lived in the region that I realized the American Civil War (referred to as the War of Northern Aggression) was alive and well.
Silly me. I thought we'd settled that war some 150+ years ago. What we (the North) genuinely lost was the post-war narrative. That storyline of states' rights, the Noble, Lost Cause and benevolent plantation owners has been haunting the country ever since.
Narratives are powerful when repeated endlessly. Even when they're gross lies, something we're seeing and hearing right now.
Whatever's old is new again.
back at you.
onethatcares
(16,161 posts)that will fit on a poster board showing the puke plan?
8 words or less if possible.