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(28,792 posts)Scary too.
oswaldactedalone
(3,489 posts)are doomed to repeat it. Were living through it now.
sop
(10,090 posts)why they're so bent on misrepresenting and demonizing CRT. Because it seeks to teach history based on facts instead of all the myths they've been pushing for so long.
appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)wouldn't it be grand if it were shown during the half-time show at the Super Bowl.
KS Toronado
(17,136 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)Super Bowl.
KS Toronado
(17,136 posts)probably best spread on social media, right click on image, select copy image address or whatever your
browser calls it and paste somewhere. That's what I did and got what's below, hope it works.
Link to tweet
Cyrano
(15,027 posts)Nazis then. MAGA, Qanon, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers now. But they're all selling the same hatred for the same reason. They want power. And turning us against each other is their path to that power.
COL Mustard
(5,869 posts)I remember asking my Mom how Hitler was able to come to power. She said that he was able to manipulate public opinion and make Jews scapegoats.
Sadly that was a long time ago, and shes forgotten what she taught me back then, and is full T***p now. But hes different. 😔
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)Almost 80 years later and we still have to fight this.
Damn scary! Thanks for posting!
Martin Eden
(12,842 posts)Fascism is here and now in America.
COL Mustard
(5,869 posts)I am dismayed that we have to fight Fascism again , and in our own country. Damn straight Im anti fascist.
Martin Eden
(12,842 posts)What really chafes me is the way fascists in America wrap themselves in our flag and crow about Constitional freedoms.
They desecrate the flag and are the biggest threat to our Constitution.
COL Mustard
(5,869 posts)My Dad served also - Korea and Vietnam. Vietnam changed him; when he came back from that he was never the same. Bad times. Unfortunately he would be all up in TFG's camp, I'm sure.
DFW
(54,268 posts)And my grandfather served in World War I. My father-in-law was Hermann Görings poor slob on a farm who did NOT come back in one piece.
I always get into trouble when Im back in the States and some right-wing idiot tells me, well I speak American. I reply, no, you dont. You speak European. England is in Europe, not on the Great Lakes. If you speak American, then I take it you speak Navajo, Hopi, Seminole, Wampanoag, Apache, Nahuatl, Tlingit, Cherokee, Iroquois, whatever.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Watching the recent Ken Burns documentary on the Holocaust and America, which concerns the history of anti-immigration policy and attitudes in this country, of all kinds, not only anti-Semitism.
These are actors in this clip ... the footage in the Burns film is real: American Bundt conventions, America First rallies, Nazi sympathizers, Father Coughlin, Charles Lindbergh, etc. in addition to FDRs own State Department, and an intransigent Congress. It will scare the pants off you how close it is to todays views and situation.
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)I wonder if it's available online at PBS
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)You might be able to watch it with this link.
https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/us-and-the-holocaust/
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)I knew someone at DU would find it.
Yoyoyo77
(267 posts)Don't forget the business plot, attempted coup during FDR's first term.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)There are around 500,000 H1Bs in the US of all races and nationalities. About 250,000 are from India. And about 5 million US citizens are of Indian race or ancestry.
Educated liberal Democrats turn stupid really fast on this issue when things get a little difficult. When it's challenging to find jobs, people stop caring about where a person is born, raised, or hold citizenship. They don't even care about papers, of which I have a US birth certificate and passport. These jobs are only for "real" Americans, not job stealers like you. No job for you!
"Papers please" is the law. "Race please" is illegal and wrong.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 24, 2022, 06:58 PM - Edit history (2)
In tech, in the 2000's. H1B workers are at the mercy of their employer and some companies very much took advantage of that power inequity. The H1B program needs a ton of regulation, with teeth, to protect H1B workers.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Pitting white vs brown, or "real Americans" vs "foreign looking" is all part of their plan.
What's it going to take for more workers to unionize to bargain for better conditions
Demanchor
(127 posts)It smacked of legalized slavery to me. Im not in that field anymore. I do hope the situation has changed but I have my doubts.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)since other countries are more friendly like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
H1Bs are coming from other countries in Asia and Africa these days. But the stereotype persists that if someone in America looks vaguely Indian, they must be an H1B.
Joinfortmill
(14,377 posts)In the mid 2000's, the company went through a huge transformative upgrade of the IT department. It took about two years to complete. Near the end of the process, the company held an 'all employees' meeting where management congratulated themselves for the outstanding success they had achieved. There was even passing praise given to the employees who had actually implemented the changes.
Soon after, the company began hiring new H1B employees, mostly from India. The current long term employees were asked to train them. Apparently the new hires from India were working out ok, because a few months later the company hired many more H1B employees, and began terminating the current employees, mostly longterm, higher paid employees, and offering them packages, but only if they would train their replacements.
I worked in another department (the company tried to outsource the annual federal report our department produced. It didn't go well and they scratched that effort, but that is a another story). One morning our manager came by and told us to stay at our desks and 'keep our heads down'. There was a mass layoff going on in the IT department and we were not to acknowledge or speak of it.
This is a true story. Management is not your friend.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)American want to be employees. IT is a cost center for many companies. Managers prefer contractors who can be added for a few weeks or months and removed easily and without notice, temp agency style.
It's a deplorable way to live. The contract workers have to pay thousands of dollars to move to a new city every few months with little or no reimbursement. Americans don't want to live like that. The American dream always involves home ownership.
Reform contracting to treat workers better and that fixes the main motivation to hire H1Bs. There's a reason Americans won't even apply to the many American contracting firms all across the US. It's the same reason why American contracting firm recruiters clog up my inbox when I put my photo in LinkedIn, but I get fewer messages when I take my photo down. It's an American tradition to treat brown people badly in ways that white people will sue or quit or expose them in the media.
appmanga
(565 posts)The offshores and H1Bs were going to be the new developers and we were going to be "business analysts". I don't want to be indelicate, but the only training they got from me was a description of a pretty much impossible anatomical act. That went for management too.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)the impossible anatomical act.
I have absolutely 0 training in development or testing, I just look like the people who do it. It's absolutely bonkers that they assign me to development and testing.
keithbvadu2
(36,640 posts)Us against them... until further differentiation makes you a 'them'.
housecat
(3,121 posts)sop
(10,090 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,319 posts)Looks familiar.
Bucky
(53,928 posts)trusty elf
(7,380 posts)Hekate
(90,527 posts)Its almost too good to be true.
trusty elf
(7,380 posts)I've known about it for some time, and have posted here on DU more than once. Stunning is the word! It really is mind-bogglingly prescient.
Jaw dropping stuff, indeed.
niyad
(113,020 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)I'd ever heard of the real Trump.
Wow. Just wow. This is some real twilight zony stuff!
Joinfortmill
(14,377 posts)wryter2000
(46,023 posts)The stuff about race and IQ sorted all "racial" groups by what they called intelligence. Guess who came out on top?
I made quite a study of the issue in grad school. It's bogus science. Period. What that prof said is accurate. There is no evidence that genetics causes group differences in IQ.
I put racial in quotes above because there are no races in homo sapiens as a taxonomist would use the term.
DontBelieveEastisEas
(487 posts)There is no doubt that the genetics of 1 group compared to another will show some differences.
Intelligence has many sides and nuances. There is much to be appreciated from the many types of minds.
Bucky
(53,928 posts)And there's a great deal of doubt that the genetics of one "group" versus another will show differences.
The research literature is not entirely clear on what it is exactly that IQ tests measure, and there's all sorts of problems with the cultural biases of any given set of questions, but it's pretty clear that one thing IQ tests do not measure is that which we call "smarts". My college education professor once told me the main thing they measure is someone's ability at taking certain kinds of tests.
Bucky
(53,928 posts)Some of it can be traced to Thomas Jefferson and his "natural philosophy" speculations on the abilities of different races. It was all his style of seat-of-the-pants subjective intellectual speculation that led to some very good as well as very bad idea
But there were eugenics ideas bouncing around the Western world including skull studies that drew naive inferences about intelligence for decades during the 19th century. That's how science works. There also was the idea that racial distinctions we're mostly situational poppycock, and that idea came out of America too. In fact, that argument also can be traced to Thomas Jefferson and his natural philosophy.
Hekate
(90,527 posts)
in comic books, anything a kid might see. The message: We were not going to be like that. Our fathers fought that war.
Its been too long. Joe Biden is right: this is a battle for the soul of America.
Stuart G
(38,403 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 24, 2022, 05:45 PM - Edit history (2)
The most powerful movie ever made is now at Democratic Undeground...
Night and Fog..
entire film at this link: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217191080
karin_sj
(808 posts)And so true so many years later.
Emile
(22,456 posts)Rhiannon12866
(204,601 posts)SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)It was a 1943 War Department film. I've seen it a few times, and it's is very powerful. It runs a little over 17 minutes.
Auggie
(31,130 posts)ChazII
(6,200 posts)Yes, there are still people who think the Masons are devil worshipers but I haven't heard about them trying to overthrow the country.
Bucky
(53,928 posts)Theyre just Rotarians or Kiwanis clubbers with a secret handshake.
The crazy ass things people make up about Masons are mind boggling
ChazII
(6,200 posts)with them since 1972. I totally agree with your last sentence.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,235 posts)What we see is the result of decades of self-selection for extremism, pushed by billionaires determined to take over government to bend it to their desires.
https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/26/koch-brothers-americans-for-prosperity-rightwing-political-group
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/how-did-republican-party-get-so-corrupt/578095/
Bucky
(53,928 posts)They've learned about dog whistles and code words and are much more effective at stirring up paranoia and suspicion. Plus they went to all the trouble of creating their own news networks this time around, which is so effective that it has even hatched a couple little baby hate networks.
They've even gotten people to doubt science things like the moon landing or evolution. Which is ironic, given how they themselves are proof of how a snake can evolve and adapt to a new environment.
Emile
(22,456 posts)Hotler
(11,392 posts)and Jewish people to Democrats and Liberals. their death camps will be for us.