I hate hate hate so-called pro-lifers. I hate hate hate anti-choicers.
Our 30-year-old daughter has avoided possible disaster or death because we live in Virginia, where abortion care is legal (for now).
Over Labor Day weekend, our youngest daughter joyfully told us she and her husband were expecting. We were all overjoyed. Then she started spotting. Went to the doctor who ordered labs, and her HCG was within normal limits for how many weeks she was pregnant (about 5). Nothing could be seen on ultrasound.
Next week, continued to spot. Six weeks pregnant. Another HCG blood level - continued to rise. Nothing was seen on ultrasound. The doctor said he was hopeful the pregnancy would continue.
Long, long, long story short, more blood tests, more ultrasounds, and they assumed she had a pregnancy somewhere but couldn't see anything. Nothing was visible in the Fallopian tubes. Nothing in her uterus. They gave her a shot of methotrexate which would end the pregnancy since they knew there were embryonic cells still growing somewhere but not where it was supposed to be. HCG started going down, but very slowly.
Yesterday she had abdominal pain. She went to the ER, was admitted, and had another ultrasound which showed blood in her abdomen. She ended up having emergency surgery to remove an ectopic pregnancy and one Fallopian tube.
She was past the magical six-week mark. IF WE LIVED IN A STATE WHERE ABORTION WAS ILLEGAL SHE MIGHT BE DEAD.
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I'm hoping she has a full recovery. Thanks for sharing this story. It's just further proof that it must be a private decision between the patient and her doctor. No one else has any reason to intrude.
They assume that there's nothing to think about. To them, it's a cut and dried issue. Most forced birthers believe the following 3 things, or some combination thereof:
1. Abortion = "killing babies" = bad (actually, they all believe this)
2. The only reason women have abortions is to avoid having babies they don't want to have.
3. The only women who want to have abortions are those who want to have sex without any "consequences" (i.e., babies they don't want to have).
They know some women will be "inconvenienced" if they are not able to terminate unwanted pregnancies, but they don't see being forced to carry to term and birth an unwanted child as anything more than that: an inconvenience. And since everyone knows how babies get made (sex!) how to avoid getting pregnant (don't have sex!), you shouldn't be having sex if you don't want to be pregnant. Then there's the part they don't usually say out loud: if you have sex and aren't willing to accept the "consequences" (i.e., pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood), well, that's just too bad. "You could have just kept your legs together, you slutty slut, but you didn't, so now you have to pay the piper!"
It doesn't even occur to them that there might be anything else to consider. Pregnancy and having babies are common, every day occurrences, and most people outside the medical profession have absolutely no clue how many things can go wrong in a myriad of ways. It doesn't even occur to them that there might be anything else they need to know.
And so the forced birther politicians end up making laws that are completely divorced from reality and lead to all kinds of nightmare situations like the ones we've been reading about since Alito and his merry band of makevolent misogynists struck down Roe. And we get state legislators who are shocked (shocked, I tell you!) to learn about the nightmare scenarios they've created.
If I rolled my eyes hard enough to express what I think of the chowderheaded dimwits who make these awful draconian laws, they'd get stuck and I'd have to spend the rest of my life looking at my own brain, so I'll just close with a few of these: 
been handled somewhat differently because of that. At least I hope some people in the chain of decisions would have had the required basic good sense.
It's also likely that a lot of local OBGs and hospitals will have had time now to adjust practices to meet the new realities. People will be discussing their experiences on social media. OBG issues and emergencies didn't just stop last June, after all.
Btw, when intense emotional reaction is uncontrollable, maybe direct it toward something positive? Like donations to those who do good? Our job is to STOP those who believe hating others excuses anything they do.
Best wishes that you all will have that precious new life in your lives soon.
and you went through this as well
are just too complicated for anti-choice laws to not harm or kill pregnant people. Period. And nobody should be forced to accept a pregnancy they don't want either. And pregnant people in anti-choice states are the same as those in pro-choice states. Alito, et. al would have us believe that modern civil rights laws have eliminated any barriers for women (totally excluding Trans men or non-binary persons), so that abortions shouldn't even be necessary. The illogic of the Dobbs "decision" will (hopefully) have legal historians puzzling over it for centuries.
nobody who looks at their decision can come to no other conclusion than SCOTUS wanted this result and twisted themselves into pretzel knots in order to justify it (very reminiscent of the Iraq War and "fixing the intelligence" ). They had a case, they had the votes to do it, and they decided to go for it. End of line.
