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mucifer

(23,478 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:18 AM Sep 2022

So Liz Cheney is now telling repubs to vote Dem if the repub is an election denier

So I believe she will eventually hope lots of dems are thankful to her and will vote for her for President.

I am pretty sure the way republicans are such cowards and she seems to be getting along much better with democrats despite sticking to her insanely right wing political positions. For her it has to be so weird to respect the politicians who are pro choice and anti giving everything to the billionaires and pro health care. Remember she hates trump and the insurrection. But, she is against the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill. She did support and actually help in crafting the latest bill that will stop the fake elector schemes and VP deciding elections in the future.

So basically Liz Cheney makes me nervous. I wish she would flip flop on just about all of her positions. But, that will never happen.

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So Liz Cheney is now telling repubs to vote Dem if the repub is an election denier (Original Post) mucifer Sep 2022 OP
The most I see is her softening a bit. Not much. Just a bit Siwsan Sep 2022 #1
Liz said True Blue American Sep 2022 #4
I don't think her motivations are entirely from personal ambition, people can change Walleye Sep 2022 #2
She can play a significant role if she does and lets it be known publicly. CTyankee Sep 2022 #3
Many Republicans are telling people True Blue American Sep 2022 #5
My Republican sister in Orange County CA is voting a straight Dem ticket this year Zambero Sep 2022 #13
Congratulations to her True Blue American Sep 2022 #16
Ulterior motives or not, she is making a stand against fascism Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #6
There is no such thing as a perfect Republican Zambero Sep 2022 #12
Liz Cheney is the polar opposite of a Democrat Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #15
I think she's there to protect NEOCON interest. A lot of people have made (stolen) a ton of Hotler Sep 2022 #7
this Arazi Sep 2022 #11
Cheney is not the only Republican True Blue American Sep 2022 #17
Her telling Republicans to vote for Democrats is a good thing. Joe Biden said the same. emulatorloo Sep 2022 #8
This is just sooo silly and unrealistic JI7 Sep 2022 #9
Well said. OnDoutside Sep 2022 #19
Process vs. policy Zambero Sep 2022 #10
I am a moderate Democrat True Blue American Sep 2022 #18

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
1. The most I see is her softening a bit. Not much. Just a bit
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:20 AM
Sep 2022

At least she can see the havoc that irrational, hard core conservatism has triggered.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
4. Liz said
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:28 AM
Sep 2022

“ If Donald Trump is the Nominee I will no longer be a Tepublican!” So strange that Dick and Lynne Cheney’s daughter is the one to stand up for Democracy! But losing a tiny election in Wyoming will not stop her! She will probably move out of the backwoods,too.

Walleye

(30,977 posts)
2. I don't think her motivations are entirely from personal ambition, people can change
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:23 AM
Sep 2022

Maybe if she hangs out enough with Democrats she’ll become a little more reasonable. Plus the only way to solve this is for Republicans to start voting for Democrats

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
3. She can play a significant role if she does and lets it be known publicly.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:28 AM
Sep 2022

But I doubt we'll ever hear it from her own mouth.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
13. My Republican sister in Orange County CA is voting a straight Dem ticket this year
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:16 AM
Sep 2022

She has occasionally crossed party lines in the past, but never to this extent. If the GOP somehow excises Trumpism and comes to its future senses, I imagine that she and others who are fed up with the current foray into fascism will likely return to the fold. Whether the collective GOP has the brains to realize their own predicament remains to be seen.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
6. Ulterior motives or not, she is making a stand against fascism
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:39 AM
Sep 2022

In this regard she is on our side. And in this regard alone.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
12. There is no such thing as a perfect Republican
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:10 AM
Sep 2022

The best we can hope for is one who respects the rule of law and the processes and institutions under which a constitutional democracy is governed. On policy matters, they are still wrong almost all of the time. This is an important distinction.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
14. Liz Cheney is the polar opposite of a Democrat
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:27 AM
Sep 2022

She obviously is putting country above party and above personal ambitions. That makes her a good American. It underscores how pathetic and cowardly her fellow Republicans are behaving, though. They are good fascists, every stinking one of them.

Otherwise, her politics are atrocious and have no place in our society.

Response to Zambero (Reply #12)

Hotler

(11,394 posts)
7. I think she's there to protect NEOCON interest. A lot of people have made (stolen) a ton of
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:42 AM
Sep 2022

money from the military industrial complex (MIC). If the fascist take power that will be the end of the cash cow. The fascist will do like in Russia, they will steal everyone's money and property. And after they come for the Biden's, Clinton's they'll come for the Cheney's.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
11. this
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:08 AM
Sep 2022

This doesn’t help much.

Republicans who are fed up with Trump aren’t going to vote Dem because Cheney asks. They just aren’t. She’s earned some goodwill from Dems but they’ll never cross over and vote for her in a national race either. She’s just too intertwined with the neocons.

I appreciate her statements but she’s in such a singular position right now I don’t see her as having any effect.

Until more Rs wake up out of their #Traitor coma she’s a lone voice I’m afraid

emulatorloo

(44,063 posts)
8. Her telling Republicans to vote for Democrats is a good thing. Joe Biden said the same.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:47 AM
Sep 2022

We need sane Republicans and independents to come out this November to help us to defeat MAGA Republicans.

Of course leave it to some DU’ers to find a way to make it negative with a speculative conspiracy theory. Sure, let’s cut off our noses to spite our faces.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
9. This is just sooo silly and unrealistic
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 09:52 AM
Sep 2022

Why is it so difficult to not see things in black/white ?

She is a conservative but is disgusted by Trump and Republicans on these issues.

That's all there is to it.

If it was all about personal ambition for her then there are other things she could have easily done to have a realistic chance at national office. Instead she did the thing which killed her future in political office.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
10. Process vs. policy
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:05 AM
Sep 2022

Cheney respects the institutions, political process, and rule of law under which a constitutional republic must be governed. So do the overwhelming majority of Democrats. Ideologically, she is also very conservative on most policy matters, unlike most Democrats. The bottom line is that governance that ensures the survival of democracy is at risk. The few Republicans that recognize or even care about this threat should be considered allies at this juncture. This does not preclude debating issues on their merits, and continuing to oppose conservative candidates who wish to obstruct or oppose progressive legislation.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
18. I am a moderate Democrat
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:52 AM
Sep 2022

Who does not like extremes on either side. Right now Liz is standing for Democracy. That matters to me.

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