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hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 12:46 PM Sep 2022

QAnon seems to be ramping up.

I’ll not post their crap here. But I follow a former high school classmate who is totally submerged in Q and she has been posting a lot of scary crap on Facebook the last couple of days.

This shit is dangerous even if it isn’t true because it emboldens the crazies who live amongst us. Yes, I report her posts all the time. She gets kicked off and then gets back on after a period of time in Facebook jail.

They are literally advocating for the overthrow of democracy. Again, most sane people understand it’s just made up crap. But to the crazies who think it’s real, they may want to act on it.

Scary times.


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QAnon seems to be ramping up. (Original Post) hamsterjill Sep 2022 OP
QAnon has been around for five years or so. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #1
The crazies don't have the ability to reason hamsterjill Sep 2022 #5
Uh, yeah, they do, but it's garbage in, garbage out Warpy Sep 2022 #21
I THINK YOU SHOULD report all her horrible posts to facebook !!! i'D DO THAT. Trueblue1968 Sep 2022 #37
It seems like it's an identity thing. People who believe Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #7
Yes, that's a good point. Similar to Trumpers. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #11
I totally agree. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #15
+1. yonder Sep 2022 #22
"Q" never made predictions... brooklynite Sep 2022 #9
I've told them that. And asked them how long is this going to take. IronLionZion Sep 2022 #25
Every time their bullshit conspiracy theories are disproven, they consider them proven. Orrex Sep 2022 #27
Cults don't operate on proof or logic. paleotn Sep 2022 #31
Very true. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #32
How many cilla4progress Sep 2022 #2
How many what? hamsterjill Sep 2022 #3
How many cilla4progress Sep 2022 #8
No idea. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #12
I'm just trying to discern cilla4progress Sep 2022 #14
Q has been around a long time. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #16
It is worldwide. OneGrassRoot Sep 2022 #23
by design CloudWatcher Sep 2022 #26
A truly shocking number: ramen Sep 2022 #19
Check out this BunnyMcGee Sep 2022 #29
Q is the child of the Tea Baggers and social media Runningdawg Sep 2022 #4
Trump has used them. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #17
Two words work for me more often than not: Prove it. blm Sep 2022 #6
"Would you bet your house without evidence that the propaganda you believe is true?" brooklynite Sep 2022 #10
I agree for normal, rational people. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #13
Q is part of trump's cult. The cult will kill for their leader. trump is ramping up his cult/base. AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2022 #18
BUt... but the lack of evidence IS the proof!!!1! Beartracks Sep 2022 #24
Yup TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #28
Oh, I am fully aware it won't work on all of them. blm Sep 2022 #33
Do you report her posts to the FBI? SouthernDem4ever Sep 2022 #20
FBI contact link: Justice matters. Sep 2022 #30
She just may get the attention she craves. flying_wahini Sep 2022 #34
Yep Snackshack Sep 2022 #35
TFG is encouraging this crap LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #36
They aren't even hiding it anymore. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #38
Yep. They can't wait to do away with democracy. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #39

Sky Jewels

(7,063 posts)
1. QAnon has been around for five years or so.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 12:49 PM
Sep 2022

You'd think these dipshits would finally realize that not one Q prediction has come true in all that time, but nooooo. Some of the nuts just double down on the crazy.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
5. The crazies don't have the ability to reason
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:02 PM
Sep 2022

And see that nothing has happened even with all of the predictions.

But you can’t reason with crazy either, and in my opinion, that’s the part that is scary. They will do as they believe they are being asked.

Warpy

(111,240 posts)
21. Uh, yeah, they do, but it's garbage in, garbage out
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:18 PM
Sep 2022

because they're given carefully targeted scraps of information plus disinformation and told to connect the dots between them. It's a slick as hell psyops campaign and it's working.

Along with connecting the dots, they're given praise for being so far ahead of the rest of us, and that keeps them coming back for more.

I'm not conedmning people who got sucked into this stuff, it's seductive as hell. I just want to know who is leading these people around. I sincerely hope there is a group of geeks somewhere in the government who are tracking this shit down to its source and that source is revealed soon. That guy in South Africa who started it for the lulz is no longer herding the sheep. I want to know who took over from him.

Scrivener7

(50,942 posts)
7. It seems like it's an identity thing. People who believe
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:07 PM
Sep 2022

it think they know something the rest of us don't. And that makes them smarter than the rest of us and gives them something to belong to. And from what I have seen, they tend to be the ones who have never known more than others and have never belonged. So they can't give it up.

Sky Jewels

(7,063 posts)
11. Yes, that's a good point. Similar to Trumpers.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:11 PM
Sep 2022

They've invested so much time and so much of their identity in this idiocy, there's no going back.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
15. I totally agree.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:14 PM
Sep 2022

But the more of them, the more they feel that they are “right” and that emboldens them.

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
9. "Q" never made predictions...
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:09 PM
Sep 2022

It posted cryptic statements that adherents interpreted themselves; when a prediction didn't come to pass, they simply reinterpreted the post.

IronLionZion

(45,421 posts)
25. I've told them that. And asked them how long is this going to take.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:35 PM
Sep 2022

And they respond with more Q crap like trust the plan, deep state is hiding the truth, the great awakening is coming, etc.

They refuse to admit they've fallen for a fraud.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
31. Cults don't operate on proof or logic.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:14 PM
Sep 2022

That's the thing that irritates me the most about these people. No matter how hard you try, or how well you articulate your response, you just can't reason rationally with these dumb mother fuckers.

Sky Jewels

(7,063 posts)
32. Very true.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:21 PM
Sep 2022

And, to be fair, the death-cult religion Christianity has been waiting 2,000 years for the major prediction of their "faith" to actually happen, so its track record is exponentially worse than Q's. I always want to tell zealots: "Spoiler Alert: Jesus wasn't magic and he's never returning to Earth." The only difference between a cult like Q and other major religions is that the major ones have enough cultural familiarity that people don't think of them in the same terms.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
3. How many what?
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 12:59 PM
Sep 2022

How many posts?

Several, and she’s learned to post stuff in the comment section on Facebook because comments are less likely to be flagged. Also there’s a lot actually.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
12. No idea.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:11 PM
Sep 2022

But I googled some of the information she had posted and it seems to be spreading on multiple sites.

It’s all made up stuff. But again, those crazy enough to follow Q aren’t likely to worry about what is real versus what is made up. That is the aspect that is frightening to me.

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
14. I'm just trying to discern
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:13 PM
Sep 2022

how frightened to be based in how big a threat they are...in part based on how many of them there are?

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
16. Q has been around a long time.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:15 PM
Sep 2022

My personal belief is that they are worldwide. I have no way of knowing or proving that. It’s my gut feeling.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
23. It is worldwide.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:22 PM
Sep 2022

Having followed it from the inception, before becoming more widely know, I can tell you that it is most definitely a presence in all western democracies. By design.

BunnyMcGee

(463 posts)
29. Check out this
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:57 PM
Sep 2022

and look at the pdf link on the right
[link:https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.15715?context=cs|

No Calm in The Storm: Investigating QAnon Website Relationships

Hans W. A. Hanley, Deepak Kumar, Zakir Durumeric

QAnon is a far-right conspiracy theory whose followers largely organize online. In this work, we use web crawls seeded from two of the largest QAnon hotbeds on the Internet, Voat and 8kun, to build a QAnon-centered domain-based hyperlink graph. We use this graph to identify, understand, and learn about the set of websites that spread QAnon content online. Specifically, we curate the largest list of QAnon centered websites to date, from which we document the types of QAnon sites, their hosting providers, as well as their popularity. We further analyze QAnon websites' connection to mainstream news and misinformation online, highlighting the outsized role misinformation websites play in spreading the conspiracy. Finally, we leverage the observed relationship between QAnon and misinformation sites to build a highly accurate random forest classifier that distinguishes between misinformation and authentic news sites. Our results demonstrate new and effective ways to study the growing presence of conspiracy theories and misinformation on the Internet.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
4. Q is the child of the Tea Baggers and social media
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:00 PM
Sep 2022

1-6 wasn't the first time a gallows has been erected near the capital.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
17. Trump has used them.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:16 PM
Sep 2022

He knows how to punch their buttons, and we don’t have anyone on the Republican side contradicting it because they aren’t taking it seriously.

blm

(113,041 posts)
6. Two words work for me more often than not: Prove it.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:02 PM
Sep 2022

Would you bet your house without evidence that the propaganda you believe is true?

Go to court without legal evidence that the propaganda you believe is true?

Would you risk the lives of your family without evidence the propaganda you believe is true?

Murder your fellow citizens and neighbors without evidence the propaganda you believe is true?

Destroy a democracy without evidence the propaganda you believe is true?

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
10. "Would you bet your house without evidence that the propaganda you believe is true?"
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:11 PM
Sep 2022

See the Millerites in the mid-19th Century for an answer...

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
13. I agree for normal, rational people.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:12 PM
Sep 2022

Rational arguments do not work with these people. They just think you aren’t in the group.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,241 posts)
18. Q is part of trump's cult. The cult will kill for their leader. trump is ramping up his cult/base.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:52 PM
Sep 2022

It's all there in history (recent and before). Look at Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh, etc, etc, etc,

We have great reason to be concerned because they're heavily armed w/a deranged master.

Beartracks

(12,807 posts)
24. BUt... but the lack of evidence IS the proof!!!1!
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:31 PM
Sep 2022

That's how deep this shit goes, man! That's how big the conspiracy is!!!11!


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blm

(113,041 posts)
33. Oh, I am fully aware it won't work on all of them.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:26 PM
Sep 2022

Have confronted those brick walls and know when to make note of it turn around. I live in Mark Meadows territory.

We lucked out that enough Repubs came to their senses to vote out Cawthorn in the primary, though. 😉

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
35. Yep
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:47 PM
Sep 2022

Get ready.

Over the next few weeks the entire apparatus that is MAGA is going to ramp up. The GOP desperately wants the House so they can put operation chaos in play and start issuing subpoenas to every Dem and their dog walker and kill the current investigations. It’s going to get very nasty.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
39. Yep. They can't wait to do away with democracy.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 08:50 PM
Sep 2022

And install Trump as dictator. It all just makes me want to throw up!

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