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(1,189 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:24 PM Sep 2022

Psaki on midterms - "If it is a referendum on the president, they (Dems) will lose"

Presidency Joe Biden’s former press secretary admits that if the 2022 election is a “referendum” on his first two years in office, Democrats will lose.

Appearing on Meet the Press Sunday, NBC News contributor Jen Psaki said that in order for Democrats to prevail in November, they will need to define Republicans as the “most extreme” party. But the person charged with spinning for the Biden White House candidly said that, should her former boss be the defining figure of the midterms, it will not turn out well for the Left.

“I think that Democrats, if the election is about who is the most extreme … then they’re going to win. If it is a referendum on the president, they will lose. And they know that.”...


https://www.mediaite.com/news/jen-psaki-admits-democrats-are-sunk-if-the-midterms-are-a-referendum-on-biden-they-will-lose/

Might check recent developments and those poll numbers, Jen. Disappointing to hear a comment like this from her.
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Psaki on midterms - "If it is a referendum on the president, they (Dems) will lose" (Original Post) 867-5309. Sep 2022 OP
Good grief NewHendoLib Sep 2022 #1
That's been understood for long time. brooklynite Sep 2022 #2
There are red alerts in this mid-term though. brush Sep 2022 #12
That's what she said... AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #14
Reading comprehension has gone out the window here... AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #21
Don't like the way this sounds or looks in print. People do not loathe Joe Biden the way Samrob Sep 2022 #3
ditto elleng Sep 2022 #7
You're kidding right? There are many people who loathe Biden. onenote Sep 2022 #46
Now we know why she is no longer press secretary lapfog_1 Sep 2022 #4
Are you kidding? She kicked ass as press secretary. Bucky Sep 2022 #13
Did she say he didn't do a great job? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #22
I DISAGREE. spanone Sep 2022 #5
Very dissapointing comment from her! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #6
I'm a fan but this was not the smartest thing to say. brush Sep 2022 #8
Didn't read her reply? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #16
Why the referendum on Biden and we will lose though? brush Sep 2022 #27
Because historically it's true AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #28
Most know that. Our people don't have to add... brush Sep 2022 #29
People here apparently don't know that AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #42
Who's denying it's true? Again. we don't have to add to the negativity. brush Sep 2022 #45
It's also historically true Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #38
Which goes to Psaki's point AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #40
Exactly. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #43
... Faux pas Sep 2022 #9
That's disappointing. Is she auditioning for a MSM job? Bucky Sep 2022 #10
Probably TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #32
OH, BS - She's just telling the truth krawhitham Sep 2022 #36
She works for MSNBC now. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #39
She has a point leftstreet Sep 2022 #11
I respectfully disagree. dchill Sep 2022 #15
Do people not know what "if" means? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #17
She is flat wrong. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #18
Think it was established many months ago that . . . peggysue2 Sep 2022 #19
"Biden's approval numbers are up." llmart Sep 2022 #41
Well, we're going to find out if the economy is the end-all in this election peggysue2 Sep 2022 #44
LOL tenderfoot Sep 2022 #20
Sounds like the comment of a rather disinterested political observer, and not a good team member. David__77 Sep 2022 #23
She isn't on the payroll of the administration any longer MichMan Sep 2022 #30
I get that. David__77 Sep 2022 #31
You don't have to be disinterested to be objective Silent3 Sep 2022 #34
WTAF is wrong with her? Xoan Sep 2022 #24
Because Democrats are held to an impossible standard. betsuni Sep 2022 #25
Well this didn't take long... TheProle Sep 2022 #26
She isn't supposed to be spinning anymore, and her statement is reasonably objectively true Silent3 Sep 2022 #35
Yeah I knew the knives would come out TheProle Sep 2022 #47
This is being entirely misinterpreted FBaggins Sep 2022 #33
She's right about the framing Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #37
She's not wrong budkin Sep 2022 #48
This is a good faith question: What did Psaki fans expect from her when she agreed to be an NBC WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #49

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
2. That's been understood for long time.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:26 PM
Sep 2022

The first midterm of new President is generally a referendum on the Administration's record. Fortunately, Trump is helping to make it a choice election instead.

brush

(53,764 posts)
12. There are red alerts in this mid-term though.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:40 PM
Sep 2022

SCOTUS snatched away women's rights and the republicans tried to overthrow the government.

And then there is the negative factor of trump, the attention whore who won't go away.

Those 3 things make this mid-term quite different.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,008 posts)
21. Reading comprehension has gone out the window here...
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:03 PM
Sep 2022

A lot of people apparently don't know what "if" means.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
3. Don't like the way this sounds or looks in print. People do not loathe Joe Biden the way
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:27 PM
Sep 2022

many loathe the GOP.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
7. ditto
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:32 PM
Sep 2022

The Hill: Projected Republican House majority narrows: CBS model

CBS News on Sunday lowered its projection of a Republican House majority after the midterms as Democrats see glimmers of hope to salvage their standing in November’s elections.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217192994

onenote

(42,694 posts)
46. You're kidding right? There are many people who loathe Biden.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 04:11 PM
Sep 2022

That's not because they have any reason to do so, but because that's the state of our politics today.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
4. Now we know why she is no longer press secretary
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:28 PM
Sep 2022

I loved her as press secretary.

But this comment is totally unhelpful, especially now.

I think Biden has done a great job as President.

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
13. Are you kidding? She kicked ass as press secretary.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:41 PM
Sep 2022

Biden has been improving, but his approvals are still relatively low, particularly in contrast to the accomplices he's achieved in the context of historically unprecedented problems.

Jen did a great job defending him from behind the PS pulpit. She's obviously angling for a different job now. It's okay for her to express different opinions now.

brush

(53,764 posts)
8. I'm a fan but this was not the smartest thing to say.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:33 PM
Sep 2022

What about saying it's a referendum on SCOTUS snatching women's rights, and republicans trying to overthrow the government?

Turn the question around these gotcha questions...like she used to do as press sec'y.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,008 posts)
28. Because historically it's true
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:24 PM
Sep 2022

And it's something that the Party leadership knows is historically true.
Just because you don't want to hear it doesn't change that fact.
She also very capably pointed out that if it's about extremism, the Democrats win. But everyone is ignoring that to attack her.

brush

(53,764 posts)
29. Most know that. Our people don't have to add...
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:27 PM
Sep 2022

to the negativity, especially with Biden's approval numbers rising.

Again, no need to go there with the negativity. Understand?

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,008 posts)
42. People here apparently don't know that
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:48 PM
Sep 2022

Because they're getting upset at someone stating a fact, and then stating why it isn't necessarily true.

brush

(53,764 posts)
45. Who's denying it's true? Again. we don't have to add to the negativity.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 04:10 PM
Sep 2022

More of this helps.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217193153

She's still getting her feet wet in her new role at MSNBC.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
38. It's also historically true
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:37 PM
Sep 2022

that the person who lost the preidential election usually don't send an angry mob to the Capitol to murder the Vice President.

krawhitham

(4,643 posts)
36. OH, BS - She's just telling the truth
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:31 PM
Sep 2022

They way over promised what they could get done. We understand why it was impossible to accomplish (filibuster, MANchin, & Sinema), but most just know the were promised a Pony* and never got it

*Pony:
Free preschool
Free community college
Permanent expanded child tax credit
12 weeks of paid family leave
Production, preservation and retrofitting of more than a million affordable rental housing units and 500,000 homes for low- and middle-income aspiring homebuyers, as well as increase rental assistance agreements
Deliver clean drinking water, a renewed electric grid, and high-speed broadband to all Americans.
Solidify the infrastructure of our care economy by creating jobs and raising wages and benefits for essential home care workers



Some of the stuff promised in BBB:
• $36.5 billion for Title I schools, in which children from low-income families make up at least 40% of enrollment. It's a $20 billion increase from 2021 enacted levels
• $6.5 billion to launch the Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health (ARPA-H), a new program aimed at driving innovation in health research that will focus initially on diseases like cancer, diabetes and Alzheimer's
• $8.7 billion in discretionary funding for the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
• $10.7 billion in discretionary funding in the Department of Health and Human Services, an increase of $3.9 billion from 2021 enacted levels. The proposal also includes $621 million specific to the Department of Veterans Affairs' Opioid Prevention and Treatment programs
• An increase of more than $14 billion compared to 2021 enacted levels across nearly every agency to tackle the climate crisis
• $2.1 billion for the Department of Justice to address gun violence, which is an increase of $232 million above 2021 enacted levels
• $30.4 billion for Housing Choice Vouchers to expand housing assistance to 200,000 additional families, and a $500 million increase for Homeless Assistance Grants to support more than 100,000 households, including survivors of domestic violence and homeless youth
• $1 billion for Department of Justice Violence Against Women Act programs, which is nearly double 2021 enacted levels
• $1.3 billion in community policing that includes $13.6 million in funds for Task Force Officer Body Worn Camera Support as a part of the $35.3 billion Department of Justice budget
• $22.4 million increase in funds for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
• $421 million for state and local grant programs that include efforts by states to craft gun licensing laws
• A proposed $1.6 billion budget to counter international and domestic terrorism, including $4 million for the National Institute of Justice research to find root causes for domestic terrorism threats
• $861 million in assistance to the Central America to address the root causes of irregular migration
• Increases the budget of the Executive Office for Immigration Review by 21% to $891 million to reduce court backlogs and hire 100 new immigration judges and support teams
• Increases funding for the Indian Health Service by $2.2 billion and provides $900 million to fund tribal efforts to expand affordable housing, improve housing conditions and infrastructure, and increase economic opportunities for low-income families
• An increase of more than $450 million to facilitate climate mitigation, resilience, adaptation, and environmental justice projects in Indian Country
• An additional $2 billion for the Department of Health and Human Services to care for unaccompanied migrant children following a record number of minors at the US-Mexico border this year. In its fiscal year 2022 budget request, the Administration for Children and Families -- an office within HHS tasked with caring for migrant children -- requested $3.3 billion for the unaccompanied children program, up $2 billion from fiscal year 2021, citing fluctuations of the number of children in care. As of May 26, there were 17,847 children in HHS care, according to government data
• A proposal to establish a "Separated Families Services Fund" to provide mental health and other services to families separated at the US southern border under the Trump administration. The administration is requesting $30 million for that effort
• $10.1 billion for global health programs, including nearly $1 billion to "fund global health security programs and support to end the COVID-19 pandemic, an increase of over $800 million above the FY 2021 enacted level," according to a State Department fact sheet. The request is part of a $58.5 billion budget request for State Department and US Agency for International Development -- a 10% increase from the enacted budget for FY21 -- with specific investments in global health, combatting climate change, increasing their workforce and strengthening their cybersecurity
• An increase in the number of visas for Afghans who assisted the US during the war, Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources Brian McKeon said, adding that they were "working with the interagency to accelerate SIV processing so we can make use of those visas." McKeon said that in recent years Congress had authorized funding for 4,000 Afghan Special Immigrant Visa slots; in the coming fiscal year, the administration is seeking 8,000 as the US pulls its military forces from Afghanistan
• $750 million to nine federal agencies significantly impacted by the devastating SolarWinds cybersecurity incident, including the departments of State, Homeland Security, Treasury and Justice. The budget also increases funding for the DHS cybersecurity branch by $110 million up from last year, for a total of $2.1 billion

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
11. She has a point
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:37 PM
Sep 2022

Right or wrong, midterms are usually a referendum on the current POTUS, and the money GOPers are currently pouring into issues - like crime - are meant to motivate a desire for change. Satisfaction with a current POTUS has nothing to do with that.

She could have worded it better I guess

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,008 posts)
17. Do people not know what "if" means?
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 01:52 PM
Sep 2022

I’m seeing her being attacked up and down for say “if” it’s about Biden.
She also said “if” it’s about extremism the Democrats win.
How is this an attack on Biden or Dems?

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
19. Think it was established many months ago that . . .
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:00 PM
Sep 2022

a referendum on President Biden was exactly what the GOP yearned for bc they could then launch all manner of critiques and belly-aching and claim Joe Biden was to blame. Inflation? Joe's fault. High gas prices? Joe's fault. Immigration hoards headed for the border? Joe's fault. And so it would go, ad infinitum.

But . . . it hasn't worked out that way, thus far. Biden's approval numbers are up. Gas prices are down. Inflation is beginning to correct. And those 'hoards' of immigrants who are asylum seekers? Busing them to Martha's Vineyard was a huge mistake.

The Dobbs decision has blotted out the sun for Republicans as has the GOP's turn to extremism that threatens democracy.

As another writer said:

Inflation is temporary. Fascism is forever.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
41. "Biden's approval numbers are up."
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:47 PM
Sep 2022

Watching Good Morning America this morning one of the talking heads mentioned "Biden's low approval ratings".

This is what we're up against. We here on DU must understand that just because we know all about his accomplishments, and know his numbers are up, most voters do not spend that much time keeping up with the latest. This election the number one issue is going to be the economy, and the media is not our friend on this one. They spent all summer ragging on the gas prices and now it's inflation, next week it will be the stock market. This is going to go on every single day until November.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
44. Well, we're going to find out if the economy is the end-all in this election
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 04:06 PM
Sep 2022

I'm genuinely encouraged by the off-the-scale increase in registrations among the young and women across all demographics. The J6 Committee is reconvening with more information on the attempted coup that nearly brought the Republic down.

Of course, you're correct--the media overall is not our friend. But . . . there is some turning with journalists actually pinning down Republican politicians on their Nightmare for America Plan/Policy ideas including the lame-brained scheme to privatize the so-called entitlement programs: SS, Medicare and Medicaid. This is universally unpopular.

We shall see but I am cautiously optimistic. The races will be close but Dems have a good shot, certainly far better than six months ago.

MichMan

(11,910 posts)
30. She isn't on the payroll of the administration any longer
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:34 PM
Sep 2022

Her employer is now MSNBC who hired her to express her opinions and provide analysis.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
31. I get that.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:38 PM
Sep 2022

People can put on and take off their hats based on payroll. And that may be entirely appropriate since that’s the scope of work.

Not everyone is “party militant” at all times in all roles.

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
34. You don't have to be disinterested to be objective
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:02 PM
Sep 2022

I'm tired of this attitude from so many people on DU that if someone isn't actively blowing sunshine up your ass (as if that's the most important element of getting a positive outcome anyway) then they can't possibly be on your side.

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
35. She isn't supposed to be spinning anymore, and her statement is reasonably objectively true
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:05 PM
Sep 2022

It's not her job to try to blow sunshine up Democratic asses anymore.

And I'm also tired of the common DU attitude that "positive thinking" and "encouraging words" are vital keys to victory.

TheProle

(2,165 posts)
47. Yeah I knew the knives would come out
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 05:25 PM
Sep 2022

Just didn’t think it would be over such a benign statement.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
33. This is being entirely misinterpreted
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 02:58 PM
Sep 2022

This isn’t a prediction (though it’s probably correct) - it’s the pre-spin of the results.

If we win… it will be because republicans be crazy … (because they won’t stop being crazy in 2024. But if we lose, it won’t be proof that they aren’t crazy (or that we’re too “woke”) - it will just be the same as every other midterm election when the president’s poll numbers are weak.

His poll numbers will be better in 2024 (and/or he won’t be running), so it doesn’t hurt for that to be the spin if we lose

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
37. She's right about the framing
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 03:36 PM
Sep 2022

If the narrative becomes all about Biden, that’s bad; if it focuses on GOP extremism, that’s bad for them.

We know FOX will make it all about Biden. The rest of the media will determine which narrative gets the most exposure to the American people.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
49. This is a good faith question: What did Psaki fans expect from her when she agreed to be an NBC
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 07:07 PM
Sep 2022

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