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KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 02:35 AM Sep 2022

With so many fleeing Russia, what Pres. Zelensky could try

Last edited Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Since some countries are closing their borders with Russia, President Zelensky could offer asylum to any
male Russian pacifist wanting not to serve in Putler's army.

And with asylum comes responsibilities, they'll have to agree to work for free to clean up and rebuild
buildings and homes Russia has destroyed with their bombing.

With most of Ukraine's skilled labor off fighting, the Russian volunteers would be picking up the slack.
Could get Russian mechanics to rebuilding some left behind tanks and other vehicles.

House them in bombed out apartment buildings and tell them to get busy, winter is coming. They'll
understand housing is at a premium, besides beggars can't be choosers.

Only big drawback I see is with the large influx of pacifists, Ukraine might need additional food stuff.
They'll bring their own cooks. Maybe even give them rear echelon jobs to help fight the Russians.

Just an idea.

On edit:

They could confiscate all their phones and cameras as a 'For your own safety" so Russia couldn't hone
in on them with rockets. Plus any saboteur caught with either could be jailed right away. Plus warn them
to be on the lookout for any and report any suspicious individuals, again 'For your own safety"

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With so many fleeing Russia, what Pres. Zelensky could try (Original Post) KS Toronado Sep 2022 OP
There is another downside I can think of, which relates to why the Baltic states are denying visas: RockRaven Sep 2022 #1
Good point, hadn't thought about that KS Toronado Sep 2022 #3
Easier to get rid of Putin. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #2
Yeah Demovictory9 Sep 2022 #5
Yup, as mentioned above, "asylum seeker" is a great cover for Russian nefariousness. (nt) FreepFryer Sep 2022 #4
Zelensky enid602 Sep 2022 #6
Putin would send in puppets to undermine Zelensky. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #7
Most of them aren't pacifists, and many are actively pro-war and anti-Ukraine, Crunchy Frog Sep 2022 #8
Good points KS Toronado Sep 2022 #9

RockRaven

(14,898 posts)
1. There is another downside I can think of, which relates to why the Baltic states are denying visas:
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 02:48 AM
Sep 2022

Russia/USSR has a history of infiltrating saboteurs/bad actors into refugee/civilian populations.

It seems likely that they would try similar here if Ukraine tried to make use of POW manpower in any way related to infrastructure or military support.

Maybe there's a practical way to deal with that concern. I don't know. Nevertheless it's something which requires consideration.

KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
3. Good point, hadn't thought about that
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:12 AM
Sep 2022

They could confiscate all their phones and cameras as a 'For your own safety" so Russia couldn't hone
in on them with rockets. Plus any saboteur caught with either could be jailed right away. Plus warn them
to be on the lookout for any and report any suspicious individuals, again 'For your own safety"

Thanks for the heads up.

enid602

(8,594 posts)
6. Zelensky
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:16 AM
Sep 2022

I think Zelensky should offer each Russian defector a one-way ticket to Palm Beach and accommodations at Mar-A-Lardo.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
8. Most of them aren't pacifists, and many are actively pro-war and anti-Ukraine,
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 10:06 AM
Sep 2022

Many of them simply don't want to put their own asses on the line. They would represent an extremely dangerous potential 5th column.

Another reason why Ukraine doesn't need more Russians; Russia uses the presence of Russians as a pretext to attack other countries in order to "protect" them.

I think there are lots of places where they could potentially go, but Ukraine does not need this extra burden right now.

ETA: Some Russians are actually being turned away at the Georgian border because they have pro-war "Z" symbols on their cars. Others are hastily removing such symbols before they get to the border.

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