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https://politicalwire.com/2022/09/26/putin-grants-edward-snowden-russian-citizenship/President Vladimir Putin has granted Russian citizenship to former U.S. security contractor Edward Snowden, the AP reports.
Walleye
(31,008 posts)I would kinda like to see this guy get sent to the front
underpants
(182,772 posts)I was going to ask something like that but you nailed.
Walleye
(31,008 posts)Tucker loves Putin so much Im sure hed be glad to die for him and give up his luxurious comfortable life
betsuni
(25,470 posts)JohnSJ
(92,138 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)criticizing and taking a bite out of Pres. Biden on the regular.
IF Greenwald hates this country so much as it appears, why doesn't he bounce his ass on over to russia.
Problem solved.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)Lula DaSilva. Dude has tons of criticisms, except for some reason that I can't quite figure out ( ), he can't seem to direct any of it to the right.
Pinback
(12,154 posts)He was granted permanent residency in 2020 and said at the time that he planned to apply for Russian citizenship, without renouncing his U.S. citizenship. - Huffington Post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russia-snowden_n_6331ced4e4b01804e090a9d8
I dont seem to remember hearing of anybody ever having dual citizenship in the U.S. and Russia before. Wonder if Snowden has actually retained his U.S. citizenship??
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)As it involves a personal appearance on US soil, an embassy or consulate.
Either way that puts him in arms reach for the US to arrest.
Pinback
(12,154 posts)I didnt know how that worked.
So Im sure the Russian postal service will send his absentee ballot in November.
comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)I would imagine there are quite a few.
Celerity
(43,318 posts)https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2020-05-01/russia-new-law-eliminates-requirement-to-renounce-foreign-citizenship/
(May 1, 2020) On April 24, 2020, the Russian government portal for legal information published the text of the newly adopted Law on Amending the Law on Citizenship. (Federal Law No. 134-FZ of April 24, 2020, Concerning the Simplification of the Procedure for Acquisition of Russian Citizenship.) The new law, which will enter into force in three months, eliminates the current requirement that applicants renounce foreign citizenship to acquire citizenship of Russia. The current citizenship law (Federal Law No. 62-FZ of June 5, 2002, on Citizenship of the Russian Federation) (Law on Citizenship) provides for granting Russian citizenship to foreign nationals only if they can prove that they have reported their renunciation of foreign citizenship to the foreign states authorities.
The amendment to the current citizenship law applies to foreign citizens and stateless individuals who permanently reside in Russia. From now on, government offices dealing with immigration and citizenship issues, which had monitored the termination of Russian of foreign citizenship by Russian nationals, will be required only to accept written notification from the applicants for Russian citizenship that they hold or have terminated citizenship of another state. (Art. 1(3.b).)
These applicants for Russian citizenship are no longer subject to the three-year residency requirement, nor will they be required to prove that they have a legal source of income. This norm will also apply to foreign spouses of Russian nationals who have a common child and to foreigners who have at least one parent with Russian citizenship residing in Russia. (Art. 1(2.b).)
The law also eliminates the requirement that citizens of the former Soviet Union who continue to reside in one of the former Soviet republics without having citizenship of that republic take up residence in Russia in order to apply for naturalization. (Art. 1(2.c).) Those nationals of Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan who have a Russian residency permit no longer have to wait for three years before applying for Russian citizenship. (Art. 1(2.b).)
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Celerity
(43,318 posts)https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2020-05-01/russia-new-law-eliminates-requirement-to-renounce-foreign-citizenship/
(May 1, 2020) On April 24, 2020, the Russian government portal for legal information published the text of the newly adopted Law on Amending the Law on Citizenship. (Federal Law No. 134-FZ of April 24, 2020, Concerning the Simplification of the Procedure for Acquisition of Russian Citizenship.) The new law, which will enter into force in three months, eliminates the current requirement that applicants renounce foreign citizenship to acquire citizenship of Russia. The current citizenship law (Federal Law No. 62-FZ of June 5, 2002, on Citizenship of the Russian Federation) (Law on Citizenship) provides for granting Russian citizenship to foreign nationals only if they can prove that they have reported their renunciation of foreign citizenship to the foreign states authorities.
The amendment to the current citizenship law applies to foreign citizens and stateless individuals who permanently reside in Russia. From now on, government offices dealing with immigration and citizenship issues, which had monitored the termination of Russian of foreign citizenship by Russian nationals, will be required only to accept written notification from the applicants for Russian citizenship that they hold or have terminated citizenship of another state. (Art. 1(3.b).)
These applicants for Russian citizenship are no longer subject to the three-year residency requirement, nor will they be required to prove that they have a legal source of income. This norm will also apply to foreign spouses of Russian nationals who have a common child and to foreigners who have at least one parent with Russian citizenship residing in Russia. (Art. 1(2.b).)
The law also eliminates the requirement that citizens of the former Soviet Union who continue to reside in one of the former Soviet republics without having citizenship of that republic take up residence in Russia in order to apply for naturalization. (Art. 1(2.c).) Those nationals of Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan who have a Russian residency permit no longer have to wait for three years before applying for Russian citizenship. (Art. 1(2.b).)
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PortTack
(32,755 posts)bannon
Flynn
Clarence and ginni
Mtg
Gaetz
Ab-butt
Deathsatan
McCarthy
Turtle
Ron Jon
Dr ounce
All the j6 ppl along with the other cult members
Rand disgusting Paul
Steve miller
Meadows
Oh I could just keep going and going!
walkingman
(7,597 posts)So what is Snowdens real crime? Like Ellsberg, Vanunu, and Bradley Manning before him, he uncovered questionable activities that those in power would rather have kept secret. Thats the valuable role that whistle-blowers play in a free society, and its one that, in each individual case, should be weighed against the breach of trust they commit, and the potential harm their revelations can cause. In some instances, conceivably, the interests of the state should prevail. Here, though, the scales are clearly tipped in Snowdens favor.
As Daniel Ellsberg put it,Snowden did what he did because he recognised the NSAs surveillance programs for what they are: dangerous, unconstitutional activity. This wholesale invasion of Americans and foreign citizens privacy does not contribute to our security; it puts in danger the very liberties were trying to protect.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-edward-snowden-is-a-hero
brush
(53,764 posts)dastardly stances against Obama and his admin in particular. He was for the US government before he was against it. Something about Obama triggered him.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)?
walkingman
(7,597 posts)His actions lead to the passage of the USA Freedom Act in 2015 which limited the collection of phone records.
I admire him for his audacity, sacrifice and determination to disclose the hypocrisy that all governments tout, esp the ones that repeatedly and most loudly claim that they best represent the will of the people and the best virtues of mankind.
JI7
(89,247 posts)There is nothing to admire about him.
walkingman
(7,597 posts)He blew the whistle and became a victim because of it. If you hear or see something wrong what do you do? If you expose those in power of doing something illegal is that wrong? If you try to do it internally is that effective?
But I have a question?
Whistleblowing can often be illegal if the exposed information threatens national security. Intelligence Community employees are not covered by the WPA. Instead, the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act permits IC employees to report an urgent concern (even if it involves classified information) to the agencys Inspector General and, ultimately, to the congressional intelligence committees. However, the ICWPA does not provide employees protection against retaliation if they make such disclosures. (taken from NYU factsheet)
Knowing that, is it a ethically or morally wrong to just "look the other way" if/when you find out that your government is engaged in illegal practices?
Dorian Gray
(13,491 posts)He could have faced the consequences here like Chelsea Manning did.
But he chose not to.
Why?
BC it wasn't about loving America.
He loves Russia.
betsuni
(25,470 posts)Blamed Democrats for what Republicans did and is clueless.
JI7
(89,247 posts)becsuse Biden himself wanted to attack something.
The guy is fraud and only idiots think there is anything good about him.
betsuni
(25,470 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,491 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,491 posts)Russia was the obvious freedom loving place for him to move to then.....
totally makes sense.
lol
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)He's not so innocent.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)All righty then.
Once again, I'm grateful to him too, he and Reality Winner. They both should have been pardoned.
brush
(53,764 posts)Like I said, his hands are not clean.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)haele
(12,647 posts)Oh, wait - nah, Snowden is a good propaganda prop. He'll do just fine until the new boss comes in and cleans house.
Harle
moondust
(19,972 posts)How many top secrets did Pooty get out of Snowy's treasure trove?
Dorian Gray
(13,491 posts)What a piece of shit thing guy is.
lol