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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo Restore Trump As President, Millions Of Supporters Believe Force Necessary
An estimated 5% of the adult U.S. population, or 13 million adults, believe the use of force would be justified to carry out Trumps restoration, according to a study by the University of Chicago, first seen on CBS News.
Five percent of the respondents of the poll agreed that the use of force is justified to restore Trump to the presidency even if some people are injured or killed.
"Today, there are millions of individuals who don't just think the election was stolen in 2020; they support violence to restore Donald Trump to the White House."
Why It Matters: The 13 million number has declined from June 2021, when 23 million Americans expressed insurrectionist sentiment, noted CBS News.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/to-restore-trump-as-president-millions-of-americans-believe-force-necessary-poll/ar-AA12k6st
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Notice that's down from 23M a year plus ago.
Wonder how many would actually get out of their recliners to go watch in person? I suspect most will continue to "riot" on social media.
GreenWave
(6,723 posts)The would be insurrectionists will run like their Russian comrades in Ukraine.
When they are seen as the scourge they truly are, they will deny ever holding such thoughts.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)when tRump was elected I suggested to an acquaintance who was all happy about it that she probably needed to start working on protecting her image with her grandchildren and developing deniability. Of course, she wasn't pleased and didn't. By now they're older, though, and probably already know not to talk politics around grandma.
Mz Pip
(27,439 posts)Its easy to fly the MAGA flag when you have no skin in the game. Actually show up and do something. Nah.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Takket
(21,560 posts)To make sure the 5% arent allowed to do that.
Those magats are armed and dangerous.
Aristus
(66,316 posts)It only takes one tank commander to say "Gunner, co-ax, troops" to reduce that 13 million figure even more.
kairos12
(12,852 posts)cargo pants and come up with a moon pie.
at140
(6,110 posts)There are plenty of magats in military.
Aristus
(66,316 posts)They're welcome to desert and try their luck with us. They can buy all the scary-looking semi-automatic black rifles they want. They don't have tanks, artillery, bombers, or jet fighters. And once they have to sleep on the ground every night, instead of for a team-building weekend, and they don't have Mommy around to heat up their Hot Pockets, they'll call it quits.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)when I was young...I had a child and a puppy. I would do it again. What is the saying about dying on your feet and living on your knees...not for me.
at140
(6,110 posts)So it does not matter if they have firearms or not.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The 5% really need to believe they're "America," and it has to be becoming increasingly difficult to sustain the delusion. Plus, most are probably a little old to be scaling government buildings and seizing power stations.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)we don't strut around the produce section at the grocery store with out AKs slung over our shoulders doesn't mean we don't know how to operate a weapon. Plus, we have the military. They're idiots bloviating from mom's basement.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)strutting around the produce section. He says we haven't had a strap for the semiautomatic shotgun for years, so I'd probably have to lay it across the top of the cart. (Why do I think I'd probably look sufficiently alarming anyway?)
Some probably have trouble with the stairs to their basements and would be worn out just getting back up.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:45 AM - Edit history (1)
just let him be "restored"?
All the country just moving aside, the national guard standing down, Biden saying "I'm sorry man, here are the keys to the White House, I'll go on my way now"
That's not happening... but that's just me putting logic and reason into this conversation.
Christian Nation
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)they are circling the vortex of inevitable irrelevance
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)through the use of cloning.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)Some of us on the left (and the middle) also own "defensive weapons". Unlike the Magats... we aren't trying to overthrow the government and install a fascist. We will however DEFEND America if it comes to it.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Do you already know them?
NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)I can see a point where we turn into "Christianistan". Then they'll start coming for people who don't conform to their ideology. When they come for me thats it.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)I will continue to vote and provide financial help when I can. But Im law abiding. Im not going to grab my gun and go out hunting Christians or anyone else. If it gets to the point where it looks like we have a changed Constitution and become Christianistan I will probably move to Mexico, Canada, Portugal or Uruguay. I dont plan to hang around for a V for Vendetta type scene where they bust into my house and drag me away for being gay.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)Im sure a lot of them are blowing smoke too. Theyre talking about a civil war with no birders like North and South. How do you fight something like that? The reality is (as Gen Miley showed) there are a lot of people who understand the danger to democracy the Magats pose. A vast majority I suspect are sick of them. In the end I believe theyre a blip and nothing more. The scream and yell but theyre not a majority by any means.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)Hopefully, there is no way that buffoon regains the White House by lawful means. I can only hope that the "larger force" recognizes the Constitution and rejects any coup attempts by Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Boogaloo Bois, or any other psycho mob.