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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,920 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 12:26 PM Sep 2022

To Restore Trump As President, Millions Of Supporters Believe Force Necessary

An estimated 5% of the adult U.S. population, or 13 million adults, believe the use of force would be justified to carry out Trump’s restoration, according to a study by the University of Chicago, first seen on CBS News.

Five percent of the respondents of the poll agreed that the use of force is justified to restore Trump to the presidency even if some people are injured or killed.

"Today, there are millions of individuals who don't just think the election was stolen in 2020; they support violence to restore Donald Trump to the White House."

Why It Matters: The 13 million number has declined from June 2021, when 23 million Americans expressed insurrectionist sentiment, noted CBS News.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/to-restore-trump-as-president-millions-of-americans-believe-force-necessary-poll/ar-AA12k6st

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To Restore Trump As President, Millions Of Supporters Believe Force Necessary (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 OP
FIVE percent (5%) claim force would be justified, calculated 13M. Hortensis Sep 2022 #1
Exactly and when the fast bullets fly GreenWave Sep 2022 #14
Climate and Covid denial will be nothing to it. Reminds me that Hortensis Sep 2022 #19
I doubt they'll fight Mz Pip Sep 2022 #18
Deleted duplicate. Hortensis Sep 2022 #2
There are about 66% of us that will respond in kind Takket Sep 2022 #3
Be careful at140 Sep 2022 #4
If they go up against an Armed Forces counterinsurgency unit, those magats will splat very nicely. Aristus Sep 2022 #9
They will reach for an extra mag in their kairos12 Sep 2022 #15
There are magats in military at140 Sep 2022 #21
I know first hand. Aristus Sep 2022 #22
What makes you think that liberals can't be armed and dangerous. I protected my life with a gun Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #23
Liberals do not cause Jan-6 style riots at140 Sep 2022 #27
Add in conservatives who change the subject when they bring it up. Hortensis Sep 2022 #6
I've never been able to figure out why they seem to think we'd just take it. Just because Vinca Sep 2022 #7
Just had a good chuckle at the thought of my husband and I Hortensis Sep 2022 #8
Why is force necessary? I mean, if Trump is that great and majestic, shouldn't the country, I dunno, ck4829 Sep 2022 #5
Unable to win elections, republicans throw tantrums and break things C_U_L8R Sep 2022 #10
+1 2naSalit Sep 2022 #11
Wish they'd go down the drain faster. I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2022 #13
This is the moral equivalent of bringing back Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer milestogo Sep 2022 #12
I believe the true number is infinitely higher than that. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #16
Since he obviously cant come close to winning the election jcgoldie Sep 2022 #17
Defend America NowISeetheLight Sep 2022 #20
Who would you shoot? Kaleva Sep 2022 #25
Defense NowISeetheLight Sep 2022 #28
If they don't come for you, you'll accept it Kaleva Sep 2022 #29
No NowISeetheLight Sep 2022 #30
I think the % of adults who'd actually commit violence is very tiny Kaleva Sep 2022 #24
So do I NowISeetheLight Sep 2022 #31
I agree with his supporters: Force is necessary. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2022 #26

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. FIVE percent (5%) claim force would be justified, calculated 13M.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 12:28 PM
Sep 2022

Notice that's down from 23M a year plus ago.

Wonder how many would actually get out of their recliners to go watch in person? I suspect most will continue to "riot" on social media.

GreenWave

(6,723 posts)
14. Exactly and when the fast bullets fly
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 02:45 PM
Sep 2022

The would be insurrectionists will run like their Russian comrades in Ukraine.
When they are seen as the scourge they truly are, they will deny ever holding such thoughts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Climate and Covid denial will be nothing to it. Reminds me that
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 03:13 PM
Sep 2022

when tRump was elected I suggested to an acquaintance who was all happy about it that she probably needed to start working on protecting her image with her grandchildren and developing deniability. Of course, she wasn't pleased and didn't. By now they're older, though, and probably already know not to talk politics around grandma.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
18. I doubt they'll fight
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 03:09 PM
Sep 2022

It’s easy to fly the MAGA flag when you have no skin in the game. Actually show up and do something. Nah.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
9. If they go up against an Armed Forces counterinsurgency unit, those magats will splat very nicely.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 01:01 PM
Sep 2022

It only takes one tank commander to say "Gunner, co-ax, troops" to reduce that 13 million figure even more.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
22. I know first hand.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 09:25 AM
Sep 2022

They're welcome to desert and try their luck with us. They can buy all the scary-looking semi-automatic black rifles they want. They don't have tanks, artillery, bombers, or jet fighters. And once they have to sleep on the ground every night, instead of for a team-building weekend, and they don't have Mommy around to heat up their Hot Pockets, they'll call it quits.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
23. What makes you think that liberals can't be armed and dangerous. I protected my life with a gun
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 09:28 AM
Sep 2022

when I was young...I had a child and a puppy. I would do it again. What is the saying about dying on your feet and living on your knees...not for me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Add in conservatives who change the subject when they bring it up.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 12:42 PM
Sep 2022

The 5% really need to believe they're "America," and it has to be becoming increasingly difficult to sustain the delusion. Plus, most are probably a little old to be scaling government buildings and seizing power stations.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
7. I've never been able to figure out why they seem to think we'd just take it. Just because
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 12:45 PM
Sep 2022

we don't strut around the produce section at the grocery store with out AKs slung over our shoulders doesn't mean we don't know how to operate a weapon. Plus, we have the military. They're idiots bloviating from mom's basement.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Just had a good chuckle at the thought of my husband and I
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 12:54 PM
Sep 2022

strutting around the produce section. He says we haven't had a strap for the semiautomatic shotgun for years, so I'd probably have to lay it across the top of the cart. (Why do I think I'd probably look sufficiently alarming anyway?)

Some probably have trouble with the stairs to their basements and would be worn out just getting back up.

ck4829

(35,045 posts)
5. Why is force necessary? I mean, if Trump is that great and majestic, shouldn't the country, I dunno,
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 12:41 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:45 AM - Edit history (1)

just let him be "restored"?

All the country just moving aside, the national guard standing down, Biden saying "I'm sorry man, here are the keys to the White House, I'll go on my way now"

That's not happening... but that's just me putting logic and reason into this conversation.

Christian Nation

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
10. Unable to win elections, republicans throw tantrums and break things
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 01:10 PM
Sep 2022

they are circling the vortex of inevitable irrelevance

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
20. Defend America
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 03:14 PM
Sep 2022

Some of us on the left (and the middle) also own "defensive weapons". Unlike the Magats... we aren't trying to overthrow the government and install a fascist. We will however DEFEND America if it comes to it.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
28. Defense
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 02:30 PM
Sep 2022

I can see a point where we turn into "Christianistan". Then they'll start coming for people who don't conform to their ideology. When they come for me thats it.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
30. No
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:59 PM
Sep 2022

I will continue to vote and provide financial help when I can. But I’m law abiding. I’m not going to grab my gun and go out hunting Christians or anyone else. If it gets to the point where it looks like we have a changed Constitution and become “Christianistan” I will probably move to Mexico, Canada, Portugal or Uruguay. I don’t plan to hang around for a “V for Vendetta” type scene where they bust into my house and drag me away for being gay.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
31. So do I
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 06:02 PM
Sep 2022

I’m sure a lot of them are blowing smoke too. They’re talking about a civil war… with no birders like North and South. How do you fight something like that? The reality is (as Gen Miley showed) there are a lot of people who understand the danger to democracy the Magats pose. A vast majority I suspect are sick of them. In the end I believe they’re a “blip” and nothing more. The scream and yell… but they’re not a majority by any means.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
26. I agree with his supporters: Force is necessary.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 11:16 AM
Sep 2022

Hopefully, there is no way that buffoon regains the White House by lawful means. I can only hope that the "larger force" recognizes the Constitution and rejects any coup attempts by Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Boogaloo Bois, or any other psycho mob.

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