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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 05:31 PM Sep 2022

COVID-19 infections increase risk of long-term brain problems

https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/covid-19-infections-increase-risk-of-long-term-brain-problems/#:~:text=Overall%2C%20compared%20to%20the%20uninfected,likely%20to%20encounter%20movement%20disorders.

Strokes, seizures, memory and movement disorders among problems that develop in first year after infection

A comprehensive analysis of federal data by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis shows people who have had COVID-19 are at an elevated risk of developing neurological conditions within the first year after infection. Movement disorders, memory problems, strokes and seizures are among the complications.

If you’ve had COVID-19, it may still be messing with your brain. Those who have been infected with the virus are at increased risk of developing a range of neurological conditions in the first year after the infection, new research shows. Such complications include strokes, cognitive and memory problems, depression, anxiety and migraine headaches, according to a comprehensive analysis of federal health data by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis and the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care system.

Additionally, the post-COVID brain is associated with movement disorders, from tremors and involuntary muscle contractions to epileptic seizures, hearing and vision abnormalities, and balance and coordination difficulties as well as other symptoms similar to what is experienced with Parkinson’s disease.

Much more at link. Not trying to frighten anyone. Best to know findings of what to watch for imo!
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COVID-19 infections increase risk of long-term brain problems (Original Post) SheltieLover Sep 2022 OP
I'm getting daily headaches XanaDUer2 Sep 2022 #1
I didn't mean to worry you. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #6
K/R Thanks, serious matters. appalachiablue Sep 2022 #2
YW! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #7
It aint the flu folks Blues Heron Sep 2022 #3
Nope, it sure isn't the flu. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #8
... Lucinda Sep 2022 #4
A couple of observations. Tomconroy Sep 2022 #5
That was my immediate quesiton upon release of the first vaxes: what % will end up with long covid? SheltieLover Sep 2022 #9
Wearing a mask can't hurt. No reason why you shouldn't. Tomconroy Sep 2022 #10
Oh I agree. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #11
You stay safe too! Tomconroy Sep 2022 #12
Thx! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #13
I think a lot of people think "we just have to live with it" means some people will have some WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #14
Exactly how many people have been mass disabled? Tomconroy Sep 2022 #15
. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #19
Covid fear porn. Pure and simple. Tomconroy Sep 2022 #20
It is real Meowmee Sep 2022 #16
I've read many folks who were asymptomatic ended up with long covid SheltieLover Sep 2022 #17
Yes me as well Meowmee Sep 2022 #23
Deepest condolences on your dad's passing 💔 SheltieLover Sep 2022 #24
Thank you Meowmee Sep 2022 #25
This is one of the reasons why I am still wearing a mask crickets Sep 2022 #18
Same here. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #21
Me, too. If I am going to HEB or anywhere there's a crowd - I might be the only one, but I wear it . marble falls Sep 2022 #26
Post removed Post removed Sep 2022 #22
Great post, sheltie. We need more good science like this! marble falls Sep 2022 #27

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
8. Nope, it sure isn't the flu.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 06:41 PM
Sep 2022

I can't for the life of me comprehend why the CDC is not keeping and expanding mask recs.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
5. A couple of observations.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 06:33 PM
Sep 2022

They only studied people through 1/21. ie pre-vaccine. Obviously the numbers are going to be very different for the fully vaccinated who end up in the hospital in far fewer numbers.
I don't see that they made any attempt to distinguish between people who ended up in the hospital or on a ventilator. The CDC says 1/3 of those hospitalized have post Covid conditions. Obviously anyone on a ventilator is going to have many long term problems.
I'll put up the link to the CDC page on the little we actually know about post Covid conditions. Some of it makes for interesting reading

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html

And no, 50% of the people infected don't get post Covid conditions.

How relevant the study is to the fully vaccinated? You have to wonder

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. That was my immediate quesiton upon release of the first vaxes: what % will end up with long covid?
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 06:45 PM
Sep 2022

Of course, that's when the CDC stopped reporting data on infections, focusing only on hospitalizations and deaths.

From what little I've read and - full disclosure here - I'm not a doc or nurse, while the vaccines often protect people from severe symptoms, hospitalization, and death, long covid rates are about the same for vaxed and unvaxed.

Regardless, why the CDC has relaxed mask recs for doctors' offices is beyond me.

I will continue to wear my NIOSH 3M N-95 when in public.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
10. Wearing a mask can't hurt. No reason why you shouldn't.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 06:56 PM
Sep 2022

I don't understand why the study stopped in 1/21. Makes no sense.
It's a very different world post vaccine.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. Oh I agree.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 07:01 PM
Sep 2022

I get weird looks, but oh well... I live in red hellhole TN, so it's expected.

That was the ONLY thing I wanted to know when vaxes were released and they decided to hid the info.

I have to wait about another week for my bi-valent vax, which I'll get along with flu and pneumonia vaxes.

I've read from various sources that approximately 1/5 to 1/3 of those who are vaxed end up with long covid. But long covid is not yet clearly defined. Lots of variants and such.

I'd much rather err on the side of caution and avoid COVID, flu & all the other nasty things floating around in magat land.

Stay safe!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
13. Thx!
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 07:05 PM
Sep 2022

Fully stocked with nearly 2 boxes of 3M N-95 NIOSH masks here. And I only go out to grocery store. Otherwise, I live on Du.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
14. I think a lot of people think "we just have to live with it" means some people will have some
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 07:11 PM
Sep 2022

flu-like symptoms for a few days or couple of weeks, when we're actually looking at a slowly unfolding mass-disabling event.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
15. Exactly how many people have been mass disabled?
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 07:34 PM
Sep 2022

In particular how many fully vaccinated people, like everyone on DU, are mass disabled?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
19. .
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 08:09 PM
Sep 2022
Exactly how many people have been mass disabled?


"Mass disabled" means many, many people are facing disability -- some they don't know about yet -- not that some people suddenly have lots of disabilities. And the problem is, because it's unfolding in real time, we don't know how many people are in this mass disabling event yet. But all signs point to "lots."

In particular how many fully vaccinated people, like everyone on DU, are mass disabled?
Everyone on DU is fully vaccinated? I'd be very surprised to learn that is true.
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
20. Covid fear porn. Pure and simple.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 08:15 PM
Sep 2022

That was why this was posted last night without a mention the study was all pre vaccine.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
16. It is real
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 07:42 PM
Sep 2022

And you don’t have to have been on a ventilator or even admitted to hospital to have long covid. I now know the virus continued to damage my father after he was released. And some of my damage did not show up for a long time. Almost no one is being properly monitored for this no matter what type of case they had/ have. Many cases will be dismissed as something else.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
23. Yes me as well
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:22 AM
Sep 2022

My father is gone. I have damage but not as severe as his. I hope you and yours are well also. My brother seems to have eluded covid so far. We are not sure because he's does have new similar issues, heart and vascular. Long covid appears to be a vascular disease. I talked with someone who was in hospital for 2 weeks with covid who had to have surgery to remove gigantic blood clots in his legs. He had had a stroke before also which was not properly treated. .

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
24. Deepest condolences on your dad's passing 💔
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 02:54 AM
Sep 2022

My daughter has long covid. Vaxed x 3.

Sadly, she listened to CDC & in early July went to an in person event at work without a mask & got it 1st time, got over it & caught it again a few wks later.

Her A1C is very high. No glucose problems previously, which is consistent with what I'm reading & fatigue is a bear.

I hope you & your brother make a full recovery soon!

Is it possible your brother had it but was asymptomatic?

The blood clots are terrifying!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
25. Thank you
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 03:33 AM
Sep 2022

It still doesn’t seem real to me. I wish I had just said lets leave here long before it happened.

Your post and article caught my attention because my father had specifically brain damage from covid as well as severe heart, vascular and bladder damage. Not everyone has the same course with Covid- I had the classical pneumonia progression. I was infected by my students in the very beginning. By some miracle I did not infect anyone in my family. My father was infected negligently by an emergency room in the second wave in December 2021. Testing showed that he had effects in his brain that I later read in articles have been found to be an effect in Covid patients as well. His presented more as a bladder, vascular and cardiac crisis. One of the things that saved me I believe was I have had DVT in the past and I was on a blood thinner. My father was also on them for afib. But he was much older and he had much more severe effects than I did. The important thing is it was still damaging him after he was released from the hospital- he was in hospital and supposed rehab for nearly a month. But the effects of the virus were still ongoing, he tested positive for several weeks after. He never received any treatment specifically for Covid- no antivirals, no antibodies nothing.


I am sorry about your daughter, that is terrible. I hope she doesn't get any type of diabetes. I have type 1 autoimmune diabetes. When I had covid my bg was crashing constantly. Others had the opposite effect. It is common in type 1 though that when your immune system is fighting something that the auto immune attack that causes your disease is suppressed. I hope she ends up back to normal. She can test her bg herself at home also to see what is going on.

I think it’s best to mask everywhere still. I hope one day I won’t have to anymore but it’s not looking good for that.

I am not sure about my brother- I wondered if he could have had an asymptomatic case and we didn’t know about it. But as soon as we realized that they were lying about the masks and that this was being spread primarily by respiratory pathways we were wearing good quality masks everywhere and barely going anywhere. So if he had it, it would’ve had to have been in the very beginning or maybe after the hospital infected my father. But we both isolated and had negative tests then.

Yes terrifying. Of all the things I have been through I think those were the most frightening maybe- I don’t know though because I have been through a lot. Mine were small but the first one was very painful and took a long time to resolve and did damage.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
18. This is one of the reasons why I am still wearing a mask
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 08:03 PM
Sep 2022

in the rare times when I am out and about. Fortunately, nobody gives me a hard time about it, but it's a strange feeling wearing the only mask in the grocery store.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
26. Me, too. If I am going to HEB or anywhere there's a crowd - I might be the only one, but I wear it .
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 05:07 PM
Sep 2022

Absolutely a great post, sheltie!

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