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Augiedog

(2,543 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:23 PM Sep 2022

To Civil War or not to Civil War, that is the wrong question.

The correct question is “are you willing to DIE to put Donald Trump back in the White House”.
Are you willing to DIE to end democracy here so that your children will live in some sort of theocratic fascist shithole?

Blithely talking about Civil War as some sort of rational option is just not….well…rational. War of any sort means death on a massive scale. It means destruction, indiscriminate destruction. No plan survives the first shot goes the saying.

Ask any Ukrainian right now what they think about war. You cannot say that that is different. War is war no matter where it occurs and how it is fought.

Youthful arrogance and ignorance allowed me to enlist and serve Viet Nam. I can assure you that you don’t want to be in that environment here or anywhere else.

So if YOU are willing to die, have your family slaughtered and your country’s future endangered because of trump, what really does that make you? Is your epitaph, your tombstone engraving proudly going to say “I died for trump” ?

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To Civil War or not to Civil War, that is the wrong question. (Original Post) Augiedog Sep 2022 OP
How Many Are Willing To Die To Ensure He Doesn't Return To Power? SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #1
Fascists usually shut down the borders when people flee in any great numbers. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #3
I hope I can walk out I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2022 #7
Take notes on how the Russians are doing it. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #8
Good luck with that TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #6
It's the same nuke tactic Putin is using. The point is to terrorize people into surrendering. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #2
Wow! H2O Man Sep 2022 #4
No TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #5

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. How Many Are Willing To Die To Ensure He Doesn't Return To Power?
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:25 PM
Sep 2022

I'm not sure there are enough of us who want to sacrifice our own lives. I know I don't. Would sooner up and leave America before I let these Fascists take my life while destroying America in the process.

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
3. Fascists usually shut down the borders when people flee in any great numbers.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:27 PM
Sep 2022

So it has to be timed ahead of the crowd.

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
8. Take notes on how the Russians are doing it.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 07:31 PM
Sep 2022

My daughter and her girlfriend have made some tentative plans in case things get really bad for them here in the US.
Looking at other countries.

TheRealNorth

(9,470 posts)
6. Good luck with that
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:37 PM
Sep 2022

There will be no where to run in the end. Might as well try to stop Fascism here before the cancer spreads across the planet.

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
2. It's the same nuke tactic Putin is using. The point is to terrorize people into surrendering.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:26 PM
Sep 2022

The GOP is going to scare Americans into becoming docile and compliant.
And letting them continue with the GOP crime spree.

TheRealNorth

(9,470 posts)
5. No
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:34 PM
Sep 2022

But they are willing to wield the Military and Police. The only reason it didn't happen in 2020 was because significant portions of the military were not going to go along with Trump, guaranteeing a messy and destructive Civil War even if they Republicans were to recruit some elements of the armed forces to their cause.

However, it becomes easier to end Democracy when a Supreme Court declares it "Constitutional".

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