Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:03 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

First high level indictment likely to be.... Hunter Biden.

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First high level indictment likely to be.... Hunter Biden. (Original post)	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	OP
I bet Hunter will be found not guilty	at140	Oct 2022	#1
Honestly	Dorian Gray	Oct 2022	#47
Except neither Hunter nor the allegations against him are high level.	Thomas Hurt	Oct 2022	#2
Hunter Biden's supposed indictment	agingdem	Oct 2022	#15
Seems like most presidents have had disreputable or embarrassing relatives.	Ocelot II	Oct 2022	#16
YOU'RE CALLING TED KENNEDY AN EMBARRASSMENT?!	milestogo	Oct 2022	#20
The Chappaquidick incident was very embarrassing to the Kennedy family	Ocelot II	Oct 2022	#22
Comparing him to the others you've named is truly insulting	milestogo	Oct 2022	#24
Well, there was that rapist cousin in the family as well... and RFK Jr is kind of embarrassing nt	AZSkiffyGeek	Oct 2022	#26
A person died in that accidnt...it was awful and it was embarrassing. Hunter Biden's drug offenses	Demsrule86	Oct 2022	#52
50 years later he's still being demonized	milestogo	Oct 2022	#55
I disagree. TFG is all bad.	Ocelot II	Oct 2022	#59
Obama had a few relatives that made headlines	AZSkiffyGeek	Oct 2022	#27
What brought this on?	ShazzieB	Oct 2022	#3
CNN "legal expert" saying DOJ could file tax evasion, firearms charges soon. Seems they have enough	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#6
Thanks for the info.	ShazzieB	Oct 2022	#32
So sorry I missed his name and cred.	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#34
Leaked by a rogue FBI agent, which I understand was the same one who leaked	Bev54	Oct 2022	#35
John Barron, right?	2naSalit	Oct 2022	#36
LOL	Bev54	Oct 2022	#37
Right, it is a bunch of bullshit.	Demsrule86	Oct 2022	#53
A WaPo story from 10/6	Renew Deal	Oct 2022	#50
Very high level positions held in our government.	quaint	Oct 2022	#4
If Garland makes that mistake I doubt there will then be one...	brush	Oct 2022	#5
Garland Isn't Going To Charge TFG	SoCalDavidS	Oct 2022	#8
trump is obviously guilty. If Garand is not going to charge him...	brush	Oct 2022	#18
Garland had to do something only because the Archives were sounding the alarm.	Hotler	Oct 2022	#40
Garland is staying out of it and is leaving all charging decisions to the AUSA for Delaware.	Ocelot II	Oct 2022	#23
Unfortunately,	wryter2000	Oct 2022	#12
It would look even more horrible for him to indict Huner Biden...	brush	Oct 2022	#19
I tend not to trust the person who said it	wryter2000	Oct 2022	#28
That certainly seems more like it.	brush	Oct 2022	#30
Maybe but why is it only Democrats who are expected to follow guidelines	ecstatic	Oct 2022	#42
And that will be the reward for our patience.	FoxNewsSucks	Oct 2022	#7
Yeah. It really seems like DOJ is hamstrung to pursue the real conspirators. n/t	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#9
According to whom?	wryter2000	Oct 2022	#10
yeah. I wish I had caught his name (CNN); see previous response	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#11
Dershowitz is saying Hunter should be indicted if Trump is	wryter2000	Oct 2022	#14
Hunter's crime was checking a box when he was applying for a firearm.	gab13by13	Oct 2022	#13
If they go after Hunter for taxes	wryter2000	Oct 2022	#17
Lying on a background check is a felony	NickB79	Oct 2022	#46
A big who cares. I bet he could get off. And Hunter is not in politics...it looks like	Demsrule86	Oct 2022	#54
"A big who cares"	NickB79	Oct 2022	#58
High level in what regard?	Kaleva	Oct 2022	#21
It's DOJ vs. Hunter Biden. No Joe.	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#31
So it really isn't high level	Kaleva	Oct 2022	#39
Well if Garland does indict Hunter, then he damn well better indict Trump too	Poiuyt	Oct 2022	#25
exactly. I was shocked to hear that it seems like a case DOJ deems solid. He's a private citizen?	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#33
After what you did to Hillary, you were shocked. I am sure I don't know why. This was a leak...and	Demsrule86	Oct 2022	#56
I don't understand what you're saying. Sorry.	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#60
You won't hear about Hunter Biden after election day.	Mr.Bill	Oct 2022	#29
Put some Lume on it.	Xoan	Oct 2022	#38
FBI - right wing assholes. Nt	ecstatic	Oct 2022	#41
What makes Hunter Biden "high level"?	onenote	Oct 2022	#43
high profile would have been a better choice? Like say someone in the inner circle of Cult 45	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#45
Not what it seems on the surface	FormerOstrich	Oct 2022	#44
It is probably because he is not going to be indicted...and some FBI trump lovers are pissed...these	Demsrule86	Oct 2022	#51
Commentators on CNN have a fairly big voice or they wouldn't have made it that far. Not saying	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#62
This from the loons who worship the 2A	Cosmocat	Oct 2022	#63
Kind of makes sense.	Renew Deal	Oct 2022	#48
I wish people wouldn't post this crap. I sincerely doubt in the end he will be charged with	Demsrule86	Oct 2022	#49
Time will tell where DOJ is	Evolve Dammit	Oct 2022	#61
What 'high level' did Hunter hold?	spanone	Oct 2022	#57

Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:06 PM

at140 (6,097 posts)

1. I bet Hunter will be found not guilty

Bad living habits is not illegal.

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Response to at140 (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:23 AM

Dorian Gray (13,221 posts)

47. Honestly

If there is proof that hunter did something illegal in regard to guns, as the reporting indicates, then indict him. And then indict trump and his whole crew.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:08 PM

Thomas Hurt (13,903 posts)

2. Except neither Hunter nor the allegations against him are high level.

Its Billy Carter all over again.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:21 PM

agingdem (7,141 posts)

15. Hunter Biden's supposed indictment

is a GOP shiny penny distraction from Trump's stolen documents shit show...and the J6 committee is set to hold a final hearing next week...

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:22 PM

Ocelot II (111,880 posts)

16. Seems like most presidents have had disreputable or embarrassing relatives.

Kennedy had Ted (Chappaquiddick), Nixon had Donald, Carter had Billy, a couple of Reagan's sons were embarrassing depending on your politics; Clinton had Roger, the Bushes had Neil. Obama doesn't seem to have had any noticeably problematic relatives, while Trump himself is the orange (the new black) sheep of his extremely sketchy family. Whatever Hunter might have done, it sounds like very small potatoes compared to TFG and the rest of them.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:28 PM

milestogo (16,247 posts)

20. YOU'RE CALLING TED KENNEDY AN EMBARRASSMENT?!

He was a great Democratic Senator and a great man. Just who did he embarrass? Both his brothers had been murdered before Chappaquidick, so I doubt that they were embarrassed by this tragic accident.

JEEZ. Are you a Democrat?

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Response to milestogo (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:37 PM

Ocelot II (111,880 posts)

22. The Chappaquidick incident was very embarrassing to the Kennedy family

and the party at the time. I remember it quite well, and part of the controversy had to do with claims that aspects of the accident had been covered up to protect the Kennedys. The incident definitely threw a monkey wrench in Ted's presidential aspirations.

After the accident he announced that he wouldn’t run for president in 1972, as many supporters had been hoping he would before Chappaquiddick. The fallout from the accident (and lingering rumors of a cover-up) permanently doomed Kennedy’s presidential ambitions: In 1980, when he finally did seek the Democratic presidential nomination, he suffered an embarrassing defeat to the unpopular incumbent Jimmy Carter.

Kennedy would serve Massachusetts in the Senate for three more decades, and would become one of the nation’s most respected elder statesmen by the time of his death, of brain cancer, in 2009. In True Compass, a memoir published after his death, Kennedy wrote that his actions the night of the accident were “inexcusable,” and that he “made terrible decisions.”

He knew at the time the accident would be devastating to his family, Kennedy admitted, as well as damaging to his political career. Finally, Kennedy wrote that “my burden is nothing compared to [Kopechne’s] loss and the suffering her family had to endure. She also didn’t deserve to be linked to me in a romantic way. She deserved better than that.”

https://www.history.com/news/ted-kennedy-chappaquiddick-incident-what-really-happened-facts

I did not intend to dis Ted, who did go on to become one of the most respected members of the Senate. But the incident was a huge scandal at the time.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:45 PM

milestogo (16,247 posts)

24. Comparing him to the others you've named is truly insulting

in light of his accomplishments. He was not the wayward relative. He was the patriarch of an esteemed family.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:49 PM

AZSkiffyGeek (9,711 posts)

26. Well, there was that rapist cousin in the family as well... and RFK Jr is kind of embarrassing nt

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Response to milestogo (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:43 AM

Demsrule86 (67,250 posts)

52. A person died in that accidnt...it was awful and it was embarrassing. Hunter Biden's drug offenses

pale in comparison...and how about the nephew who was accused of rape at Ted Kennedy's home or the family home...I forget. That was very embarrassing for Democrats. Ted Kennedy became the lion of the Senate but he had some bumps and bruises along the way. I will always maintain his primarying Carter cost us the presidency and opened the door for Reagan.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #52)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:50 AM

milestogo (16,247 posts)

55. 50 years later he's still being demonized

People aren't either all good or all bad. Members of the Kennedy family are flawed, and that has nothing to do with Hunter Biden.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #55)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 11:01 AM

Ocelot II (111,880 posts)

59. I disagree. TFG is all bad.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:51 PM

AZSkiffyGeek (9,711 posts)

27. Obama had a few relatives that made headlines

Overstaying visas or something like that.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:09 PM

ShazzieB (13,683 posts)

3. What brought this on?

Context, please.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:13 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

6. CNN "legal expert" saying DOJ could file tax evasion, firearms charges soon. Seems they have enough

evidence to proceed? Sorry I did not recognize his name. And correct me, but Hunter is a private citizen, so to be thusly elevated smells badly.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:23 PM

ShazzieB (13,683 posts)

32. Thanks for the info.

I will take the opinion of that "legal expert" with a large grain of salt. Opinions like that are a dime a dozen.

Move along, folks, nothing to see here. 😉

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #32)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:25 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

34. So sorry I missed his name and cred.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:25 PM

Bev54 (9,124 posts)

35. Leaked by a rogue FBI agent, which I understand was the same one who leaked

Clinton's email so called forthcoming indictment.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:52 PM

2naSalit (79,425 posts)

36. John Barron, right?

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:54 PM

Bev54 (9,124 posts)

37. LOL

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:47 AM

Demsrule86 (67,250 posts)

53. Right, it is a bunch of bullshit.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:29 AM

Renew Deal (81,388 posts)

50. A WaPo story from 10/6

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/06/hunter-biden-tax-gun-charges/

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:11 PM

quaint (2,055 posts)

4. Very high level positions held in our government.

Like this:
Hunter Biden was appointed to a five-year term on the board of directors of Amtrak by President George W. Bush in 2006.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:11 PM

brush (50,113 posts)

5. If Garland makes that mistake I doubt there will then be one...

against trump. And then I don't see how Garland can continue as Biden's AG.

It will create such an uproar and backlash by Dems as trump is obviously guilty of document theft.

Huge mistake if Garland does this.

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Response to brush (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:17 PM

SoCalDavidS (9,998 posts)

8. Garland Isn't Going To Charge TFG

Hard to know whether he'll indict Hunter, but I'd say the chances are greater for that than him charging TFG.

America!

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:23 PM

brush (50,113 posts)

18. trump is obviously guilty. If Garand is not going to charge him...

what was the point of the search warrant at MAL and all the 11 Circuit appeals to continue the espionage investigations against trump?

Whether Garland will charge him is yet to be seen. Garland has surprised us by going this far. He might surprise us again and indict the traitor.

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 11:13 PM

Hotler (10,713 posts)

40. Garland had to do something only because the Archives were sounding the alarm.

Had the archives not said anything we wouldn't be this far along.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:39 PM

Ocelot II (111,880 posts)

23. Garland is staying out of it and is leaving all charging decisions to the AUSA for Delaware.

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Response to brush (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:19 PM

wryter2000 (45,720 posts)

12. Unfortunately,

It would look horrible for Biden to fire Garland. Huge mistake.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:27 PM

brush (50,113 posts)

19. It would look even more horrible for him to indict Huner Biden...

before trump. If said indictment happens, Garland will have to make a decision as to stay of not.

I don't see why this Hunter case is not on the back burner with the trump document case being so unavoidable. Why is it coming up out of the blue to take prominence over a trump indictment?

This seems like nothing but a maga-backed issue to distract from the growing inevitablility of a trump espionage indictment.

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Response to brush (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:57 PM

wryter2000 (45,720 posts)

28. I tend not to trust the person who said it

It's ridiculous on its face. Garland may be overly cautions, but he's not ridiculous.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #28)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:02 PM

brush (50,113 posts)

30. That certainly seems more like it.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 12:38 AM

ecstatic (31,826 posts)

42. Maybe but why is it only Democrats who are expected to follow guidelines

and norms while refugs do whatever TF they want? If, after all the crimes we've seen over the past two years, Garland and his doj think getting Hunter Biden is the most important, he really would need to go. It would show conclusively that he's unfit and unwilling to protect and defend Americans.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:15 PM

FoxNewsSucks (10,238 posts)

7. And that will be the reward for our patience.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:17 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

9. Yeah. It really seems like DOJ is hamstrung to pursue the real conspirators. n/t

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:18 PM

wryter2000 (45,720 posts)

10. According to whom?

I'm not doubting you. I just wonder which lunatic(s) are currently saying it.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:19 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

11. yeah. I wish I had caught his name (CNN); see previous response

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:20 PM

wryter2000 (45,720 posts)

14. Dershowitz is saying Hunter should be indicted if Trump is

Maybe it's going around now. Maybe it will amount to nothing, the way Hunter Biden gossip usually does.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:19 PM

gab13by13 (18,189 posts)

13. Hunter's crime was checking a box when he was applying for a firearm.

Hunter checked the box that he was not an addict. This "crime" is rarely prosecuted.

Hunter also has some tax issues that I am not familiar with.

The Hunter Biden Latest Breaking News is a big nothingburger, IMO.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:22 PM

wryter2000 (45,720 posts)

17. If they go after Hunter for taxes

They for sure have to go after Trump. AG James referred Trump's rampant fraud to the IRS.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:23 AM

NickB79 (18,357 posts)

46. Lying on a background check is a felony

It's rarely prosecuted, but that's mainly because the ATF is so poorly funded.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #46)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:49 AM

Demsrule86 (67,250 posts)

54. A big who cares. I bet he could get off. And Hunter is not in politics...it looks like

a vendetta and I personally don't believe they will indict hence the bullshit leaks.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #54)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:46 AM

NickB79 (18,357 posts)

58. "A big who cares"

I'll have to remember that the next time calls for stricter gun control laws are made here at DU.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:29 PM

Kaleva (35,484 posts)

21. High level in what regard?

Is Biden himself connected with the alleged crime or crimes?

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:22 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

31. It's DOJ vs. Hunter Biden. No Joe.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 09:45 PM

Kaleva (35,484 posts)

39. So it really isn't high level

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:49 PM

Poiuyt (17,861 posts)

25. Well if Garland does indict Hunter, then he damn well better indict Trump too

The Hunter Biden case is obviously political retribution from the far right. What Trump did was one of the worst crimes committed against America.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:24 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

33. exactly. I was shocked to hear that it seems like a case DOJ deems solid. He's a private citizen?

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:50 AM

Demsrule86 (67,250 posts)

56. After what you did to Hillary, you were shocked. I am sure I don't know why. This was a leak...and

if likely isn't true.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #56)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:55 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

60. I don't understand what you're saying. Sorry.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:58 PM

Mr.Bill (22,551 posts)

29. You won't hear about Hunter Biden after election day.

And this will happen every two years as long as Joe Biden is President.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 09:41 PM

Xoan (25,241 posts)

38. Put some Lume on it.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 12:32 AM

ecstatic (31,826 posts)

41. FBI - right wing assholes. Nt

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 01:23 AM

onenote (41,098 posts)

43. What makes Hunter Biden "high level"?

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Response to onenote (Reply #43)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:04 AM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

45. high profile would have been a better choice? Like say someone in the inner circle of Cult 45

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 02:24 AM

FormerOstrich (2,674 posts)

44. Not what it seems on the surface

My understanding is a Trump era U.S. Attorney in Delaware (Weiss) is supervising the case. The case had been going on for months. Weiss isn't the one saying anything..."agents" are saying it. The "agents" have said it months ago. They can't bring criminal tax charges without the tax division agreeing.

Garland has said he is staying out of it and in my opinion the best way to play it. There doesn't seem to be anything new just noise from people that aren't in position to take action. The noise would be really loud if Garland weighed in.

The gun charge come from Hunter obtaining a permit which he stated he was not a drug user. Apparently, he has said since he was doing drugs during that time frame. It is a charge that normally wouldn't be prosecuted without extenuating circumstances.

Disgusting stuff and a good way to work people up to blame the wrong people. Helps deplete the oxygen from the room. Best defense....IGNORE such BS stuff

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Response to FormerOstrich (Reply #44)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:30 AM

Demsrule86 (67,250 posts)

51. It is probably because he is not going to be indicted...and some FBI trump lovers are pissed...these

These people leaking this BS need to be fired.

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Response to FormerOstrich (Reply #44)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:03 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

62. Commentators on CNN have a fairly big voice or they wouldn't have made it that far. Not saying

they are all "experts" or even truthful. Just relating the opinion of one commentator.

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Response to FormerOstrich (Reply #44)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:35 PM

Cosmocat (14,492 posts)

63. This from the loons who worship the 2A

Above life itself.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:27 AM

Renew Deal (81,388 posts)

48. Kind of makes sense.

Then they can’t say ”what about Hunter Biden”

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:29 AM

Demsrule86 (67,250 posts)

49. I wish people wouldn't post this crap. I sincerely doubt in the end he will be charged with

anything...six years of investigation and he may or may not owe taxes...oh he bought a gun without admitting drug use...who is to say whether he used drugs or not and no one gets indicted on such charges...I would be he would walk if he did. And he is not high profile. He is the president's son...doesn't work for him and isn't elected.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #49)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:57 PM

Evolve Dammit (15,559 posts)

61. Time will tell where DOJ is

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:12 AM

spanone (134,470 posts)

57. What 'high level' did Hunter hold?

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