Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:04 AM
Tomconroy (6,683 posts)
General Mark Hertling on the 'Announcement'.
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48 replies, 10578 views
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Tomconroy | Nov 2022 | OP |
spanone | Nov 2022 | #1 | |
JohnSJ | Nov 2022 | #2 | |
Rebl2 | Nov 2022 | #19 | |
Lovie777 | Nov 2022 | #3 | |
Mr. Steve | Nov 2022 | #11 | |
Botany | Nov 2022 | #4 | |
brer cat | Nov 2022 | #7 | |
carpetbagger | Nov 2022 | #14 | |
FailureToCommunicate | Nov 2022 | #5 | |
MiHale | Nov 2022 | #6 | |
Joinfortmill | Nov 2022 | #23 | |
Mr. Ected | Nov 2022 | #8 | |
calimary | Nov 2022 | #17 | |
Alwaysna | Nov 2022 | #35 | |
Genki Hikari | Nov 2022 | #47 | |
2naSalit | Nov 2022 | #9 | |
liberalla | Nov 2022 | #26 | |
2naSalit | Nov 2022 | #34 | |
liberalmuse | Nov 2022 | #10 | |
Wounded Bear | Nov 2022 | #12 | |
onetexan | Nov 2022 | #13 | |
Evolve Dammit | Nov 2022 | #15 | |
question everything | Nov 2022 | #16 | |
FakeNoose | Nov 2022 | #22 | |
question everything | Nov 2022 | #37 | |
dchill | Nov 2022 | #24 | |
question everything | Nov 2022 | #38 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Nov 2022 | #18 | |
BidenRocks | Nov 2022 | #20 | |
Joinfortmill | Nov 2022 | #21 | |
ProudProgressiveNow | Nov 2022 | #25 | |
Blue Owl | Nov 2022 | #27 | |
Genki Hikari | Nov 2022 | #48 | |
Traildogbob | Nov 2022 | #28 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Nov 2022 | #29 | |
Tomconroy | Nov 2022 | #30 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Nov 2022 | #31 | |
Tomconroy | Nov 2022 | #32 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Nov 2022 | #33 | |
LudwigPastorius | Nov 2022 | #43 | |
marieo1 | Nov 2022 | #36 | |
crickets | Nov 2022 | #39 | |
Cha | Nov 2022 | #40 | |
Septua | Nov 2022 | #41 | |
LudwigPastorius | Nov 2022 | #42 | |
marieo1 | Nov 2022 | #44 | |
SunSeeker | Nov 2022 | #45 | |
Skittles | Nov 2022 | #46 |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:09 AM
JohnSJ (87,961 posts)
2. Yes he is, and it is time for the DOJ to step up to the plate
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:11 AM
Lovie777 (8,755 posts)
3. Horrid human being that only cares for self ......
no matter how many is run over. Hateful SOB, yet the GQP grovel at his feet.
shithole has been and continue to destroy the Republican party, but it not all shithole, the GQP bares equal culpability. |
Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:21 AM
Mr. Steve (114 posts)
11. Yep
No doubt about it.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:12 AM
Botany (68,130 posts)
4. None of this shit in the Ukraine would now be happening if we had stopped Putin/Trump in '16
Response to Botany (Reply #4)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:55 AM
carpetbagger (3,630 posts)
14. Not so sure.
In the end, Putin's Trump-era Ukraine strategy failed because of the Zelenskyy election as well as the Great Genius of his American allies. I think Putin sensed a weak spot in Germany with a new chancellor last winter, hence the timing of the invasion. It almost succeeded, but not quite.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:29 AM
FailureToCommunicate (13,461 posts)
5. General Hertling CAN handle the truth!
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:31 AM
MiHale (7,920 posts)
6. KnR...
He has got to be stopped by any means necessary. He is a clear and present danger that somehow is allowed to have another run at the presidency.
It’s like inviting Jeffery Dahmer over for dinner and telling him you got the ketchup. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:11 AM
Mr. Ected (9,348 posts)
8. Re-energizing his base is the most dangerous thing that's happened since we voted him out in '20
"Where have you gone, Merrick Garland, the nation turns its lonely eyes to you"
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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #8)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:02 AM
calimary (75,923 posts)
17. No kidding. Merrick, WTF are you waiting for?
An excuse to “stand down” when the GOP takes over in January, so you won’t have to stick your neck out?
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Response to calimary (Reply #17)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 01:18 PM
Alwaysna (571 posts)
35. What does i¿1/2 mean?
Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #8)
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:37 AM
Genki Hikari (1,766 posts)
47. You do know that Garland can't indict anyone...
...Right?
Only grand juries can do that. If they're not indicting, it's because they're not convinced that an indictment is warranted at this time. Maybe it's because they're not convinced a crime is there to indict but it could ALSO mean that they don't think they've gotten the full picture of what charges they will need to indict on. Or there's the possibility that, just when they think they're about to wrap things up, well, here's more criming to get to the bottom of. Could be lots of reasons for whatever they're up to, and the secrecy built into the process means we can't know what's going on. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:14 AM
2naSalit (73,426 posts)
9. Isn't Milley...
Still in service? If so, he has protocol to follow regarding his opinion.
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:57 AM
liberalla (8,426 posts)
26. Yes, he is! We don't know what statements he would make about this!
He disagreed with TFG often enough, that I personally believe it would be similar to Retired General Mark Hertling.
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Response to liberalla (Reply #26)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:48 PM
2naSalit (73,426 posts)
34. That's what I'm thinking.
People need to recognize that the vast majority of those who serve this country, military or civil service, uphold their oaths and follow protocol.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:19 AM
liberalmuse (18,615 posts)
10. This POS should be in prison.
At the very least banned from running. No good will come of this. The media is going to blast his poison day in and day out. God only know what Musk will allow from this toxic waste dump. Someone who had the power should have forced him to comply with rule of law and they didn’t and our democracy will suffer. The GOP will end up in lockstep because their propaganda machines will dictate it. God help us. This is not a game. Popcorn shouldn’t be popped. This is an evil dictator trying to grab the microphone and power.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:25 AM
Wounded Bear (56,008 posts)
12. K & R...nt
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:47 AM
onetexan (11,909 posts)
13. i was waiting for someone prominent to state exactly this!!
I'm horrified, as all Americans should be, that this Traitor & insurrectionist is allowed to again run. He should be indicted & locked up!!
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:57 AM
Evolve Dammit (14,707 posts)
15. Damn straight. Thank you sir!
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:59 AM
question everything (45,289 posts)
16. I wish you would copy and paste
Response to question everything (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:45 AM
FakeNoose (29,160 posts)
22. Here's what the tweet says:
MarkHertling
@MarkHertling After watching the Trump “announcement,” I say this: He is an evil, extremely dangerous man who threatens our democracy & our future. Don’t tell me I’m breaching a “civil-military control” protocol. I’m retired now & believe stating this is critically important to our nation. 2:15 AM · Nov 16, 2022 from Washington, DC Screenshot: ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #22)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 01:23 PM
question everything (45,289 posts)
37. Thank you. A strong statement!
Response to question everything (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:47 AM
dchill (35,900 posts)
24. I get it.
After watching the Trump “announcement,” I say this: |
Response to dchill (Reply #24)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 01:24 PM
question everything (45,289 posts)
38. Thank you. I hope that many will listen
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:08 AM
Just A Box Of Rain (5,104 posts)
18. TBL remains deeply and seriously dangerous.
We must not underestimate this.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:39 AM
BidenRocks (677 posts)
20. I miss Tom Clancy
Imagine the book he would write about our own Clear and Present Danger!
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:44 AM
Joinfortmill (11,501 posts)
21. Blunt. I like it.
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:53 AM
ProudProgressiveNow (6,065 posts)
25. KR NT
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:58 AM
Blue Owl (44,931 posts)
27. DOJ what is your major malfunction???
Response to Blue Owl (Reply #27)
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:39 AM
Genki Hikari (1,766 posts)
48. Nothing, since they can't indict anyone
Only grand juries can indict in the federal system.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:07 PM
Traildogbob (7,052 posts)
28. We always hear
And it is true, that we can not convict of treason unless we are at war. Well, last night around 9:30 there was a “declaration of war against the United States” and was cheered on around the country. Whether it was shown on MSM or not, it was declared against our country and democracy. Again, by the same asshole. And will he be held to account? The constitution says shoot to death the treasonous perp. Are we a country of laws, as stated in the constitution, or are we a joke? Is the oath taken with hands on the BuyBull as valid as trumps would to debtors, or wives?
Let the war cries fester at our own risk. Or take the enemy out now. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:22 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (45,603 posts)
29. What the heck is your cheap shot at serving General Milley about?
Magats hate him for talking to his Chinese counterpart to say that tRump would not be nuking them. Deconfliction call. |
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #29)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:29 PM
Tomconroy (6,683 posts)
30. He had the bad judgment to walk beside trump in combat
Fatigues while trump held a Bible upside down. Now he's trying to stab Ukraine in the back.
He's a clown who should have been fired long ago. |
Response to Tomconroy (Reply #30)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:31 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (45,603 posts)
31. Milley deeply regrets that walk. He agrees it was bad judgement. What's this about Ukraine?
I have heard no such thing with regards to Ukraine. I'd be grateful if you presented some links and perhaps a bit of your analysis. |
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #31)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:37 PM
Tomconroy (6,683 posts)
32. Alexander Vindman thread on Milley:
Response to Tomconroy (Reply #32)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:43 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (45,603 posts)
33. Thanks. Had not heard that. But he's being up-front about it. And I disagree with Milley. . . . nt
Response to Tomconroy (Reply #32)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:25 PM
LudwigPastorius (6,846 posts)
43. Two things:
1) The Ukrainian "gains" consist of land that was theirs to begin with. They are still down a large chunk of their country.
2) And, making a deal with Putin is worthless because his word is worthless. Fortunately, President Zelenskyy knows this. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 01:19 PM
marieo1 (1,402 posts)
36. Right On
Yes, DJT is A TRAITOR and a dangerous man............ I have a question...................WHY ISN'T TRUMP IN PRISON? I don't get it!!! If any of our citizens did what he has done they would throw the book at them.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 02:49 PM
crickets (25,099 posts)
39. Thank you, General Hertling. 🇺🇲
May more retired military leaders also speak up. Loudly!
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 02:53 PM
Cha (286,510 posts)
40. Good on Gen Mark Hertling! The
More who Speak out the Better for our Democracy!
TY! ![]() |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 06:29 PM
Septua (1,856 posts)
41. I'm always encouraged when someone...
..with an impressive résumé concurs with sane people's opinion of Trump.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:21 PM
LudwigPastorius (6,846 posts)
42. There is a law preventing Trump from running for President.
It's called the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, and it needs to be fucking enforced!
Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 12:45 AM
marieo1 (1,402 posts)
44. Disgusting piece of humanity
I believe the only reason loser DJT is running again is he thinks it will keep him out of prison. DJT should be indicted and be sent to prison.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 01:06 AM
SunSeeker (49,644 posts)
45. K & R & Retweeted!
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 03:36 AM
Skittles (149,499 posts)
46. same can be said about DeFascist
yup
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