Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:03 AM
Tomconroy (6,683 posts)
Politico: Bipartisan Congress expected to pass massive $38+ billion aid for Ukraine.
HALIFAX, Nova Scotia — Congressional Republican leaders are on track to steamroll the growing number of conservative lawmakers who want to stop funding Ukraine’s war effort, a move that’s sure to intensify the GOP divide over U.S. support for Kyiv.
Interviews with lawmakers who traveled here for the Halifax International Security Forum, an annual pro-democracy conference, revealed that Congress is likely to allocate well more than the $38 billion the Biden administration requested for Ukraine’s military and economic needs as part of a year-end governing funding bill. And that extra infusion is set to advance with the help of senior Republicans, even as influential conservative groups urge a pause. If Congress approves the White House’s request or super-sizes it, the U.S. commitment to Kyiv since Russia’s invasion began in February could top $100 billion by the end of the year — a massive sum that would throw a sharp elbow at Donald Trump-aligned Republicans who want to reevaluate U.S. policy toward Ukraine. But as questions swirl over the staying power of the Western coalition, lawmakers’ message here in Halifax was clear: Now is not the time to scale back the flow of weapons, equipment and humanitarian assistance to Ukraine. The top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who co-led the congressional delegation to the conference, downplayed the impact of neo-isolationists within his party and noted that the Hill’s most powerful GOP lawmakers firmly support additional aid. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/22/gop-ukraine-aid-halifax-00069709
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Tomconroy | Nov 2022 | OP |
Lucinda | Nov 2022 | #1 | |
Lovie777 | Nov 2022 | #2 | |
RAB910 | Nov 2022 | #3 | |
PortTack | Nov 2022 | #7 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Nov 2022 | #10 | |
Emrys | Nov 2022 | #4 | |
bronxiteforever | Nov 2022 | #5 | |
PortTack | Nov 2022 | #6 | |
onetexan | Nov 2022 | #11 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Nov 2022 | #8 | |
KS Toronado | Nov 2022 | #9 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Nov 2022 | #13 | |
KS Toronado | Nov 2022 | #14 | |
blue-wave | Nov 2022 | #12 | |
republianmushroom | Nov 2022 | #15 | |
Sky Jewels | Nov 2022 | #16 | |
Mopar151 | Nov 2022 | #17 |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:11 AM
Lucinda (30,925 posts)
1. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:13 AM
Lovie777 (8,755 posts)
2. Make it so . . . .
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:51 AM
RAB910 (2,702 posts)
3. It's the right thing to do and it's also beneficial to the US
Russia is our enemy, and the money spent on Ukraine is badly weakening Russia. Plus in terms of the economy, what nations are seeing in Russia will boost US weapons sales. Not many countries are going to be lining up to buy inferior Russian products. Besides boosting the economy, it will strengthen America's world standing both as a moral leader and the country people want to be on the good side of.
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Response to RAB910 (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:39 AM
PortTack (29,656 posts)
7. Nailed it! Have seen several detailed reports on this. The money we are spreading now will end
Up bringing in literally trillions of dollars in sales for American weaponry for the reasons you mentioned.
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Response to RAB910 (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:24 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,940 posts)
10. Supporting Ukraine is a relatively cheap way to enhance our own national security.
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 10:08 AM
Emrys (6,618 posts)
4. Don't tell MTG et al., but that "top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee"
is Ohio's James Risch:
Link to tweet Steven Chase
@stevenchase U.S. Senator James Risch, a Republican, assures Halifax’s #HFX2022 forum that only a “small, small number” of 535 members of Congress would fail to support ongoing military aid for Ukraine. “The United States of America supports Ukraine and we will stick with them until the end.” Risch travelled to Ukraine and met Zelensky in June: https://www.risch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2022/6/risch-meets-with-zelenskyy-in-kyiv He also wants to go even further in offering support: Link to tweet NOËL 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 @NOELreports Ukraine needs to be provided with F-16 fighters. This was stated by US Senator James Risch. "Someone says, 'Oh no, it's going to escalate.' But listen, when we fought in Vietnam and Korea, the Russians supplied both planes and pilots for our opponents! ![]() |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:29 AM
bronxiteforever (8,760 posts)
5. K&R. Putin has created a huge refugee crisis with his war
According to the UN, there are at least 14 million Ukrainian refugees and winter is coming on. A refugee crisis is historically extremely dangerous for regional stability. By waging this ground war in Europe, Putin has caused misery and terror. We need to oppose him and support Ukraine. I am happy the Senator from Idaho clearly understands this threat and Ukraine will be supported by bipartisan votes.
The new Senator from Ohio JD Vance has made it clear he does not support Ukraine and the next Congress may have more Putin tuft-hunters. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:35 AM
PortTack (29,656 posts)
6. Great news! The gqp will go along for a couple of reasons
As the “top” republican said now is not the time to scale back. Happy to hear they understand what’s at stake here.
Secondly, Raytheon, Boeing and other weapons makers I’m sure are lobbying all of congress for this. Besides, they are good high paying jobs right here in America |
Response to PortTack (Reply #6)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:27 PM
onetexan (11,909 posts)
11. GOP are also warmongers as we know well
War benefits the rich. In this case they get to ride on Dems coattails & claim bill passed bc of their support.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:46 AM
Just A Box Of Rain (5,104 posts)
8. Hopefully no more calls for ceasefires and negotiated settlements with Putin that undermine Ukraine
or implicit threats to cut aid come from any quarter in Congress.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 12:00 PM
KS Toronado (13,079 posts)
9. Suspect all the anti Ukrainian rhetoric
from reQublicOns in congress is retaliation for Ukraine not manufacturing dirt on Biden and spilling
the beans on tfg which lead to his first impeachment trial. How dare they not support the GQP. |
Response to KS Toronado (Reply #9)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:32 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,940 posts)
13. Or it's simply about the money Putin has provided the Republican party.
Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #13)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:55 PM
KS Toronado (13,079 posts)
14. Yes, probably both, revenge & money.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:31 PM
blue-wave (4,011 posts)
12. Yes!! Do this now
before the new congress. Let's win in Ukraine and let's roll up our sleeves and start working toward a blue wave in 2024 for America!!
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:04 PM
republianmushroom (7,008 posts)
15. I like it
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:12 PM
Sky Jewels (4,290 posts)
16. Good!
This is probably the first time in my life I’ve been in favor of increased military spending.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mopar151 (9,535 posts)
17. Russia has been like a mine fire for us, politically.
I think we're at a point where some extra push on our part could wipe out a lot of future problems.
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