Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:26 PM
mahina (16,753 posts)
We have seen this threat before. Rachel Maddow's podcast Ultra tells the story
Of America First. Illuminating, riveting, and if we are smart, instructive.
It’s as if the invisible forces who cultivated the Lauren Boberts and EmptyGs of our era studied this history. I’m persuaded they did. The circus like tactics, the profoundly cynical and anti-American beliefs cloaked in the flag are all too familiar. If you haven’t listened yet, please do. Wherever you listen to podcasts. If you don’t this is a good reason to start. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra/id1647910854
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mahina | Nov 2022 | OP |
Samrob | Nov 2022 | #1 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #4 | |
2naSalit | Nov 2022 | #12 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #16 | |
triron | Nov 2022 | #20 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #28 | |
flying rabbit | Nov 2022 | #2 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #3 | |
mitch96 | Nov 2022 | #5 | |
Hassin Bin Sober | Nov 2022 | #6 | |
Kablooie | Nov 2022 | #7 | |
ramapo | Nov 2022 | #8 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #15 | |
Talitha | Nov 2022 | #9 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #14 | |
Talitha | Nov 2022 | #17 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #18 | |
W T F | Nov 2022 | #10 | |
Hong Kong Cavalier | Nov 2022 | #11 | |
electric_blue68 | Nov 2022 | #13 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2022 | #19 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #21 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2022 | #22 | |
JHB | Nov 2022 | #25 | |
moondust | Nov 2022 | #23 | |
mahina | Nov 2022 | #24 | |
Samrob | Nov 2022 | #26 | |
treestar | Nov 2022 | #27 |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:31 PM
Samrob (4,298 posts)
1. I agree. Finished the series. My mouth is still wide open...
Response to Samrob (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:59 PM
mahina (16,753 posts)
4. Mine too! Just finished a minute ago. A knockout. Why is this not widely known?
Response to mahina (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 01:37 AM
2naSalit (79,147 posts)
12. Wasn't a lot of ths stuff...
Recently released for public view, like the 72 year rule?
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 06:23 AM
mahina (16,753 posts)
16. Don't know about that.
Response to mahina (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:43 AM
triron (21,506 posts)
20. Media is complicit.
Response to Samrob (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:21 PM
mahina (16,753 posts)
28. An interesting interview w Rachel https://youtu.be/DQKPe5xu0x0
John Favreau Offline. There’s a lot here.
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Response to mahina (Original post)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:35 PM
flying rabbit (4,513 posts)
2. K & R
Looks fascinating. Just downloaded them all. Thanks.
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Response to flying rabbit (Reply #2)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:50 PM
mahina (16,753 posts)
3. Oh you bet.
I’m curious what you think about it. Aloha.
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Response to mahina (Original post)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:11 PM
mitch96 (12,886 posts)
5. This was a continuation of the conservative reich wing businessmen trying to over throw
FDR and the new deal...They liked the way Hitler treated big business..
The Businessman's plot was found out and never got going. When the nazi got involved it got started again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot This is where I first heard it on a PBS radio program from the BBC years ago... https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tbs0 What amazes me is all this stuff is in the library of congress!!! It's been known for years. “Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.” m |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:13 PM
Hassin Bin Sober (25,853 posts)
6. Thank you!
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 12:10 AM
Kablooie (18,329 posts)
7. Yep. We are just living in the echoes of that time.
I was surprised at how familiar it all felt.
And history has forgotten all about them until now. |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 12:22 AM
ramapo (4,574 posts)
8. Amazing the untaught history
I knew there was a Nazi-movement pre-WWII. I knew about America First and Lindburgh. I knew about the isolationists and anti-immigration/anit-jew zealots
The rest? I'm 67 years old, well read, and didn't have a fucking clue about the extent that the Nazi influence went in Congress and society. No idea about the sedition trials. Or the terrorist attacks. It was all so very familiar. Shockingly so. It was a very established movement thruout the country. I've started a book on the era, "Hitler's Friends". He had many here. |
Response to ramapo (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 03:24 AM
mahina (16,753 posts)
15. My Grandmother had one friend who would mutter about
Jewish conspiracies and Protocols of Zion when she’d had to much to drink. Everyone thought she was just nuts.
This woman was her friend since they were children. They were not really close friends. They were still pals until they died but my Grandmother thought she was out of her mind to believe that garbage. When I asked my grandmother about it she said ”Ina is not very bright in some ways.” Now I understand where the poison came from. I’m thankful my family never ate it. I have to wonder if I would think the way I do if they had. |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 12:24 AM
Talitha (6,017 posts)
9. How can I download them onto my laptop as audio files?
Would love to share them with someone who doesn't have any devices.
Thanks! ![]() |
Response to Talitha (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 03:14 AM
mahina (16,753 posts)
14. Wherever you download apps, go there and search podcast.
(Apple) Download an app. Mine is just called Podcast but the url is https://www.apple.com/apple-podcasts/
On your app search for Ultra Maddow Once you’ve found the podcast play an episode Poke around for an option that looks like save or check settings, scroll down to the bit about downloading and deleting played episodes. That’s the best I’ve got at hand. If you are a Windows user I’m not sure but you can certainly find a way on google. Good luck and thank you for sharing with your friend. Aloha. |
Response to Talitha (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:58 AM
mahina (16,753 posts)
18. You bet. I hope I got all that right. You can always Google it though with your actual operating sys
Wishing you the very best luck
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Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 12:58 AM
W T F (1,131 posts)
10. I listened to the entire podcast...........Very intriguing
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 01:21 AM
Hong Kong Cavalier (4,562 posts)
11. I'm on episode 5 and the parallels with what's going on today are frightening.
Simply frightening.
I'm glad someone out there noticed. I only wish we could get more people to see the road ahead. |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 01:51 AM
electric_blue68 (13,327 posts)
13. Have to listen to last ep (#8) It's been shocking, fascinating, troubling...
bc I didn't know how big this Pro-Nazis movement had gotten in the USA, and higher ups affected.
Yeah, knew about Lindberg, and Nazi rallies at the older MSG, but not all the rest! Wow Highly recommend!👍 |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:03 AM
Hortensis (58,785 posts)
19. It's GREAT listening too. nt
Response to Hortensis (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:36 PM
mahina (16,753 posts)
21. Isn't it! How do they make this available for free?
It took her about a year of work, not to mention the others who worked on it. I realize we listen to ads but is that where the money comes from? I wonder how the decisionmakers think about this.
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Response to mahina (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 06:59 PM
Hortensis (58,785 posts)
22. Good question. Guessing they think it's important.
Hard to believe actual ad time would fund it.
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Response to mahina (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:01 PM
JHB (36,926 posts)
25. My guess is that the podcast is available for free because it feeds back into her show...
...i.e., her show that has ads.
Other podcasts have ads, or limp along on listener contributions. |
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:49 PM
moondust (19,458 posts)
23. "America First"
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“From this day forward, it’s going to be only America first,” Trump said during his (2017) Inauguration, invoking a phrase that has troubling roots in nineteen-forties nativism and anti-Semitism. About a week later, Konstantin von Notz, a Green Party parliamentarian in the German Bundestag, tweeted, “America First is an update of _Deutschland, Deutschland über alles _. . .’ ~ https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/deutschland-uber-alles-and-america-first-in-song |
Response to moondust (Reply #23)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:56 PM
mahina (16,753 posts)
24. Yes indeed. America last.
Response to mahina (Original post)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:09 PM
Samrob (4,298 posts)
26. And yet, we witnessed Putin/Trump doing much the same thing to us in 2016 and many refused
to believe it while others simply ignored it. Much too focused on bashing HRC.
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Response to mahina (Original post)
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 11:42 AM
treestar (82,106 posts)
27. I've been listening to it
amazing parallels. I recall TFG going on about America First.
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