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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 09:01 AM Dec 2022

What would Harry Reid do right now? Threaten to cancel Christmas to save the country

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/30/2139240/-Biden-Schumer-Pelosi-need-to-channel-Harry-Reid-right-now-and-fight-for-our-future
 
What would Harry Reid do right now? Threaten to cancel Christmas to save the country
Joan McCarter
Daily Kos Staff
Wednesday November 30, 2022 · 3:16 PM EST


WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 08: Senate Minority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) (L) shares a moment with Vice President Joseph Biden (R) during Reid's leadership portrait unveiling ceremony December 8, 2016 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC. The leadership portrait unveiling ceremony was held to honor the outgoing Democratic leader. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
Harry Reid had no problem about threatening to cancel Christmas.
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer are staring down the double-barreled threat of multiple, critical deadlines and the knowledge that the House is going to be turned over to a raft of incompetent maniacs in a little more than one month’s time. The two leaders allowed their members to come back from the election on Nov. 8 and accomplish very little, then take the full Thanksgiving week—and the days book-ending it—off. That wasted time is now biting the whole nation in the ass, with the workload increasing—along with Republicans’ determination to thwart progress.

The number one thing Pelosi and Schumer needed to deal with started a few months ago, when House Republicans began announcing their hostage-taking intentions. The over-confident GOP announced that they would force cuts to Social Security and Medicare by refusing to raise the nation’s debt ceiling next year, now likely in June. That’s the promise the U.S. government makes to all its creditors and to the American people that the payments that have been promised to them—from troops’ paychecks to monthly Social Security checks to global debt servicing—will be covered. Not extending those guarantees by raising the debt ceiling threatens the entire global economy.

The threat that they would use this tactic was reiterated and reinforced. Democratic leadership more or less ignored the threat, implying that sure, it would be nice to deal with that, but there is just so little time and so many other priorities. Well, here’s a kick in the pants to that excuse of too little time, too much to do: Senate Republican leadership is now endorsing the House maniacs’ tactics, including the direct threat to Social Security and Medicare.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD), Mitch McConnell’s number two in leadership, told a Bloomberg panel of editors and reporters that Senate Republicans are right there with the House maniacs. They want to use the debt ceiling as a cudgel to force changes to Social Security—by “changes” they always mean cuts—and other programs.

“There’s a set of solutions there that we really need to take on if we’re going to get serious about making these programs sustainable and getting this debt bomb at a manageable level before it’s too late,” Thune said. “Typically, I think there’s been a pretty broad bipartisan understanding that default’s not an option,” Thune said. “But at the same time I think there’s an understanding that this does create an opportunity especially if the pressure’s on one side to deliver that outcome.”


The one side who would feel that pressure is the Democrats—meaning President Joe Biden and Schumer. So what should they do? Channel former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and cancel Christmas.

The threat would probably be enough to bring some recalcitrant members—possibly even some outgoing Senate Republicans—into line to get priorities taken care of. Like starting a budget reconciliation bill in the House right now that will include dealing with the debt ceiling, funding the government, and whatever other steps necessary for maniac-proofing the government. Yes, budget reconciliation bills take time, and can include all-night vote-a-ramas in the Senate. Do what Harry did, on multiple occasions: keep the Senate in session all night. Tell Senators they will have to be there all night.

Let them know that if they don’t play nice, they may have to be there until Christmas Eve, just like Harry made them do to give the nation access to health care. The Affordable Care Act passed the Senate on Christmas Eve, 2009, while a blizzard engulfed Washington, D.C. Threaten to do that again, this time to save Social Security.

Make sure the whole nation knows that’s what you’re willing to do: forego your treasured time off, during the biggest holiday of the year, to make sure the programs that are so vital will continue, unharmed. Make House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy’s nightmare of a leadership fight even harder by focusing the nation’s ire on the House Republicans.

Let Speaker Pelosi step away from the gavel having realized one last, huge achievement—saving Social Security.

Be like Harry Reid. Fight.
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What would Harry Reid do right now? Threaten to cancel Christmas to save the country (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2022 OP
Absolutely! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #1
I like this very, very much! Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #2
Yes, just do it! ananda Dec 2022 #3
Yes! yardwork Dec 2022 #4
I hope they do this! liberalla Dec 2022 #5
Manchin, Sinema and the GOP would just leave Fiendish Thingy Dec 2022 #6
Then no one is there to call for a filibuster dsc Dec 2022 #7
If Manchin, Sinema and all the GOP leave, there is no quorum Fiendish Thingy Dec 2022 #8
I really despise the way those two always take the side of republicons. FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #10
K&R onecaliberal Dec 2022 #9
Manchin knows he will likely be replaced with real rethug, childfreebychoice Dec 2022 #11
While we're whitewashing Harry's history MurrayDelph Dec 2022 #12
If the senate is not going to be the "most delberative body in the world" Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #13
Let the crazies shut the government down then. President Biden will NEVER agree to their PortTack Dec 2022 #14

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
2. I like this very, very much!
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 09:35 AM
Dec 2022

I think it would be a wonderful way for Pelosi to end her brilliant leadership. Heck, for all we know this has been her plan all along.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,587 posts)
6. Manchin, Sinema and the GOP would just leave
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:18 AM
Dec 2022

Sinema has done it at least once in the past,

No one is afraid of Schumer’s wrath.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,587 posts)
8. If Manchin, Sinema and all the GOP leave, there is no quorum
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:26 AM
Dec 2022

The Senate can’t even convene unless 51 are present.

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
11. Manchin knows he will likely be replaced with real rethug,
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:55 AM
Dec 2022

So he will veer even further right, and sinema prob has lucrative job lined up as lobbyist, or CNN/fox commentator. There is old saying when rethugs win by one vote, they claim a mandate. When dems win by one vote, rethugs claim they cheated.
We are in for two yrs of rethug grandstanding, sucking up even more time on Sunday talking head shows...popcorn and Xanax, for all

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
12. While we're whitewashing Harry's history
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 12:01 PM
Dec 2022

Never forget that he slapped down Jeff Merkley's attempts to reform the filibuster, which included talking filibusters and voting to sustain instead of to break.

Instead, he decided to leave it as is and trust Mitch McConnell's promise to only use it for "extreme circumstances," not realizing (although everyone else did) that Mitch defined "extreme circumstances" as Democrats trying to get shit done.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,318 posts)
13. If the senate is not going to be the "most delberative body in the world"
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 12:04 PM
Dec 2022

Why then would we keep the filibuster. If they are going to act as crazy as some do in the house then they should have their wings clipped. IMO

PortTack

(32,757 posts)
14. Let the crazies shut the government down then. President Biden will NEVER agree to their
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 12:35 PM
Dec 2022

Tantrums. Shutting the government down worked SOOO well the last two times they did it!

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