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Could either Cheney or Kinzinger (Original Post) Pantagruel Dec 2022 OP
If it's not going to be a Dem in the Speaker's seat AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #1
Hah that would be funny intrepidity Dec 2022 #2
No. And we shouldn't even consider Democrats voting for them. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #3
Neither will be sitting Congresspeople in January bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #4
Interesting thought but it's unlikely either would get and repub votes... brush Dec 2022 #5
No. Zero chance. onenote Dec 2022 #6
If the speaker is not a rep., does he/she vote on bills? brush Dec 2022 #7
interesting question, bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #11
Thanks. What you cite still doesn't make it clear if... brush Dec 2022 #14
I think the parliamentarian would contend that the Speaker is elected by the House thus elected. bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #16
Still not clear as the Speaker is usually an elected rep. brush Dec 2022 #18
actually, the Speaker rarely votes bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #19
Really? Is there a link showing that. brush Dec 2022 #21
Not a link but an explanation bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #22
There is an odd number of representatives so this is really a moot point. madinmaryland Dec 2022 #23
For the most part but there could be illnesses, even deaths. brush Dec 2022 #24
Either would be better Pantagruel Dec 2022 #8
Cheney lost her seat AKwannabe Dec 2022 #9
There were people going on about having Hillary and TFG as speaker. Claustrum Dec 2022 #10
From Article 1 Section 1 US Constitution bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #12
Wouldn't they have to win the nomination from the Republicans first? Rstrstx Dec 2022 #13
Maybe Kinzinger. You don't want Cheney, keep away from her. haele Dec 2022 #15
More likely to bring Paul Ryan back... Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #17
In about an hour, Herschel Walker will be available for the job. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2022 #20
I nominate Bernie Sanders. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #25

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,972 posts)
1. If it's not going to be a Dem in the Speaker's seat
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 03:35 PM
Dec 2022

I can think of a lot worse than a Republican who has no patience for MAGA bullshit.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,482 posts)
3. No. And we shouldn't even consider Democrats voting for them.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 03:37 PM
Dec 2022

What the Hell? Outside of not being traitors there is absolutely nothing appealing about either one of them. They both voted with Piss Wig 90% of the time. They’re both against voting rights, civil rights, women’s rights, protecting the environment and literally EVERYTHING we stand for.

Fuck the both of them. They’re not our friends.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
4. Neither will be sitting Congresspeople in January
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 03:38 PM
Dec 2022

But supposedly anyone can be elected Speaker. I don't see why they'd want the job. Democrats would be lukewarm, Pelosi is a tough act to follow, and only 10 Republicans would side with the new Speaker.

brush

(53,741 posts)
5. Interesting thought but it's unlikely either would get and repub votes...
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 03:39 PM
Dec 2022

as neither are popular in the maga party.

And also, they were on the right side of history on the J6 incident/committee, but they're both still republicans.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
11. interesting question,
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 04:12 PM
Dec 2022

The House Rules only say

Discretion to vote
7. The Speaker is not required to vote in ordinary legislative proceedings, except when such vote would be decisive or when the House is engaged in voting by ballot.

I would think, if not a Member, the Speaker may still have the ability to break a tie but others wise would be a non voting member. Things like this are the House Parliamentarians job a nightmare

brush

(53,741 posts)
14. Thanks. What you cite still doesn't make it clear if...
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 04:45 PM
Dec 2022

a non-rep Speaker can vote. To me it doesn't seem that a non-elected person should break a tie on bills which effect the nation, especially since the House, unlike the Senate, doesn't have an even number of members.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
16. I think the parliamentarian would contend that the Speaker is elected by the House thus elected.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:32 PM
Dec 2022

Much like the President is elected by the Electoral College. The House rules say 'The Speaker is not required to vote in ordinary legislative proceedings, except when such vote would be decisive or when the House is engaged in voting by ballot.

It would seem by rule the Speaker would be required when such vote would be decisive....It would be odd, but, we are in odd times.

brush

(53,741 posts)
18. Still not clear as the Speaker is usually an elected rep.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:48 PM
Dec 2022

Speaker Pelosi certainly votes regularly representing the people of her district. As far as a non-rep speaker being elected by the House and then voting...that doesn't quite seem kosher.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
22. Not a link but an explanation
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:42 PM
Dec 2022

The Speaker of the House, per current House rules, is not required to vote in “ordinary legislative proceedings” and is never recorded as missing a vote, and may not be included in the comparison with other representatives if not voting.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
23. There is an odd number of representatives so this is really a moot point.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:51 PM
Dec 2022

There would be no tie votes.

brush

(53,741 posts)
24. For the most part but there could be illnesses, even deaths.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 01:05 AM
Dec 2022

Both have happened and are not that uncommon.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
10. There were people going on about having Hillary and TFG as speaker.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 04:11 PM
Dec 2022

So it's possible for anyone to become speaker. Retirement or losing their seats won't prevent them from becoming speaker. The problem is simply that they won't get the majority to vote for them to become speaker.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
12. From Article 1 Section 1 US Constitution
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 04:20 PM
Dec 2022

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Not a lot of qualifications for Speaker

haele

(12,640 posts)
15. Maybe Kinzinger. You don't want Cheney, keep away from her.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 04:53 PM
Dec 2022

She has said Democrats have no problems killing babies when talking about abortion. She is perfectly fine shredding environmental safeguards for corporations.

Cheney is not our friend.

Haele

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
17. More likely to bring Paul Ryan back...
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:36 PM
Dec 2022

remember him? Trying to direct the republican herd of cats drove him out of government.

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