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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave you ever been really really filthy? I'm talking "after a day in a steel mill" or "after a hot
day of baling hay" filthy; not a dry stitch on you all day and grime covering every square inch of exposed skin.
If you have been that filthy, think of how great it felt to GET CLEAN; a hot soapy shower and shampooing plus fresh CLEAN clothes.
THAT is how I will feel if we ever really actually truly bring tfg and his accomplices to justice and scrub our country clean of their influence.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)...or racists, pedos, Qanon morons, etc....
ArnoldLayne
(2,066 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)salt tablets like candy and strapped 3" thick wooden "clogs" onto our boots so our feet would not blister. The coal dust was as fine as talcum powder and lodged in every pore.
I have a lot of respect for anyone who lasted 33 years in a steel mill.
Chainfire
(17,474 posts)I am in full agreement!
If he falls, hard, I will be a very happy camper. (I ain't holding my breath)
cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)Atticus!
And yes, yes I have! After a hot day of loading/unloading/stacking hay! As well as at other times. And yes, omg - how refreshing to wash off the salty sweat and the dirt, hay, and other detritus sticking to me!
So often I have thought - such a simple thing to us - the privileged few in western/technologically developed countries - to have the convenience of a hot shower at the ready. And yet, so many around the world do not have our access. Especially as a woman with our additional hygiene needs...
I wish more people were aware of this!
murielm99
(30,717 posts)cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)murielm99
(30,717 posts)Most of us have been ready for dinner hungry. We have not been shortchanged of food for long periods of time hungry.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)After awhile the hunger stops torturing you but eventually you become sick weak exhausted and if you stand up you start to pass out .
You can only eat a small amount,then your hunger comes back with a vengeance and if you can eat more than a little bit you will inhale that food so fast you practically choke because you cant get it your body fast enough. Shit I was so hungry I licked all the gravy off the plate I didnt care I was so hungry.
Now I have diabeties. I cannot imagine being homeless with diabeties. Not having a source of reliable food was hard enough
Having to deal with my blood sugar in that situation would be even more terrifying than being homeless by itself .
Many more times than I care to remember..
Aristus
(66,294 posts)You know, what they show in the movies; crawling through trenches, under barbed wire, with machine gun rounds going over your head? All that in torrential rains. We finished the morning's training covered from head to toe in mud. We marched back to our pup-tent city to changed and have lunch. The sun came out and dried everything up. I remember standing in the warmth of the sun's rays, unclothed except for underwear, feeling rejuvenated and somehow re-born. I dug clean fatigues out of my duffle bag, clean dry socks, and my dry boots, and got changed, feeling human again. One of the most wonderful sensations in my life.
cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)thanks for sharing that memory with us!
Aristus
(66,294 posts)csziggy
(34,131 posts)Hot and sticky and covered with nasty substances doesn't begin to describe how filthy I'd get. Sometimes, I'd rinse myself off with a hose before going inside. Both my old house and the new had the laundry room next to the back door. I'd go inside, peel off my clothes, throw them straight into the washer, then (in the old house) walk naked through the house to get to the shower. New house, I'd walk through the master closet into the bathroom.
Frankly since Nixon, I have felt that this country needed a good flushing to get rid of the stench. At least the dirt I had on me was wholesome, natural dirt, even when it was literal shit. Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, and Trump have all dragged up crap that has tainted our country - I hope not forever.
cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)living on a small (hobby) ranch myself, I share the feeling! We open the door to outside from our basement bathroom and say we are taking an outdoor shower!
Love your analogy...
druidity33
(6,445 posts)I think i probably got you all beat. Collecting composting toilet buckets (shit, piss and sawdust), then dumping them in the "Humanure" pile, then turning the pile. Human poop is nasty stuff. Even a good long hot shower didn't quite eliminate the grossness.
cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)ya got me!!!
druidity33
(6,445 posts)I had that job assignment for my first week at that commune. Truly understood what getting "the shit detail" was all about. It got better afterwards... but that first week, not so great.
cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)a commune!
jaxexpat
(6,804 posts)druidity33
(6,445 posts)i tried to visit the Farm, but they said they were closed to visitors (unless i was willing to pay over $2,000 for a course in something or other). I did visit several Intentional Communities in TN though. And Missouri, which was where the majority of the shit buckets were. I made a year of it and stopped in a bunch of places as i made my way across the country. Greyhounds, bumming rides and tent living. Good times.
jaxexpat
(6,804 posts)Appreciate the response. Good times, indeed.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)For some reason, human waste seems more gross that animal waste.
My worst experience, as far as grossness goes, would probably be when a tenant died in my rental house and wasn't discovered for around 10 days. It happened during a hot July. Even after the biohazard remediation team did their work, the odor was horrible. Every day when I got home from working on the house, I'd strip off everything in my garage, throw it all - including shoes - in the washer, and get in the shower. The smell was in my head for a long time. It took me two months to get the house in rentable condition again, and I'll never forget the odor.
In relation to your experience, I used to pick up random dog poop that I'd come across at the park when I was walking my own dog. It didn't bother me much. But there were a couple of times when I'd come across human waste. I'd literally gag. Why it was worse than dog poop, I don't know.
druidity33
(6,445 posts)but i could tell a few. All wild critters, no humans thankfully. And yes, human poop=vile. I spent a year doing Americorps in NYC parks. The first 2 hours we did litter patrol. Homeless people don't have the best diets and public restrooms don't really exist in NYC. Let's just say there was no way to clean that shit up with those gripper cup grabbers. Needles, underwear, condoms, spoiled foods, ritual effluvia, etc. Once we found a finger. That was a crazy day.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)"effluvia".....now I know what it means.
I've only been to NYC once, and just have to say that I found it disgusting that it's so difficult to find a public restroom. I guess I don't understand the rationale of expending more funds to clean up waste in inappropriate places rather than providing facilities.
My guy and I were talking about how to spend New Year's Eve, and I joked that we could put on diapers and go to Times Square. Seriously, though, we'll happily stay home.
Easterncedar
(2,265 posts)And nice finale. What a lovely dream.
Also full of admiration for all the hard workers here. Throwing raw shrimp into a spinning deveining blade and getting covered with the flung veins (its not a vein) was my most filthy job, although more fun than the line cook job I was promoted to.
central scrutinizer
(11,637 posts)We were often many hours away from civilization, camping out for many days on end. Mud, sweat, smoke accumulated. The rivers were swollen with snow melt. Fortunately it was usually raining so we got a few layers rinsed off.
jmowreader
(50,530 posts)I've been even dirtier than that. And yes, I agree that locking up Trump will be like the half-hour showers I took after coming out of the field after a couple weeks downrange.
aocommunalpunch
(4,233 posts)Even scrubbing clean left the possibility of fibers getting into our bodies. It never leaves. I don't think we can scrub the fibers from our country. They're embedded and the donor class neuters real cleansing action.
Takket
(21,529 posts)i worked the tray return line. it was so hot in the kitchen with the industrial steam plate sanitizer operating. and you had impatient kids cramming their trays full of dirty plates onto the conveyor belt, but the belt moved too slow so they would not wait for space and would just stack their tray on top of the ones already there. i had to dump the uneaten food and separate the trash from the washable plates. i would sweat from the heat and have food all over me. i stunk. it was horrible. although it wasn't the worst job i ever had. that was definitely working in retail on cash registers and helping people on the floor when i was in high school. the college cafeteria was miserable but at least i didn't have people berating me all day in the washroom.
panader0
(25,816 posts)But I learned through the years that there's two kinds of dirty. One you can wash off with a shower,
one you can't ever get rid of. Except maybe, after years of atonement.
Try Harder
(12 posts)Small village a couple of hours north of Vancouver, BC. So sorry you are all still dealing with this. Stay strong, The whole world is sending you psychic Lysol.
Hope22
(1,795 posts)Its fun to hope for but Im thinking I wont see it in my lifetime.
BidenRocks
(826 posts)The king of Dirty Jobs.
Sorry to say he lost my respect for being a Fox and trump humper.
So sad!
40RatRod
(532 posts)...the High School secretary, who actually ran the school, owned a massive farm with her brothers. When it was time to bring in the hay, she would get me out of class and I would work with them the rest of the day. I found out quick how to use my right knee to boost the bales way up onto the huge wagon and we would head to the barn. They stayed on the ground and put me in hay loft to stack the bales. Twice as hot up in the barn. Then back to the field for another run. At lunch, they handed me a sandwich and water, then back to the field for the rest of the day.
Then in summer vacation, I learned a lot about putting up tobacco. Once again in the barn loft, where it was hot, getting yelled at if I let one leaf touch the barn when I swung it in and hung it on racks.
Graduated, and the next day signed up for the military but I don't regret those learning experiences because for the next 43 years they made me successful. No regrets.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)My father worked there for 30+ years. The money was really good then, we had a very good life because of it.
My 3 summers paid for college.
You had a work car and it would get to smelling sometimes. You drove that car to and from work and not much else. After work, you spent 20 minutes in the shower hoping to get the stink off.
When I went back to school in the fall, I was always worried that I still smelled, yet I never remember my father smelling past walking in the door and to the shower.
The smell would get in your sinus and you only thought you stunk.
rsdsharp
(9,144 posts)You get juuuuuuust a little dusty (and as a bonus, its carcinogenic)!
Pas-de-Calais
(9,901 posts)Earning $$$ for college. Us college kids got all the shit jobs.
The worst?
Oiling the berms surrounding those large tanks you may have seen. To ensure no weeds grew thru.
95 degree days spent wearing coveralls, runner boots, rubber gloves, helmet with full face shield.
While spraying boiling oil out a 6 foot wand device, attached to the oil truck by a 30 foot hose.
Wed go thru 4-5 small coolers of ice cold water bottles. Used most of it by pouring the containers down the front of the coveralls.
The stench of that oil would seep into your skin. You could still smell it after showering.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)Bo Zarts
(25,391 posts)Tail-stretching as it came out of the extruder.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)TomSlick
(11,091 posts)I have no fear of hell. I've worked an aluminum pot line.
Prairie_Seagull
(3,305 posts)So many episodes of looking forward to a shower at lunch knowing only half the day is through. Ugh
LittleGirl
(8,280 posts)The difference between a job that requires a shower after vs one that requires one before you go to work.
Huge difference in pay sometimes.
peppertree
(21,604 posts)It's too bad he later let his (understandable) resentment at what MSNBC did to him, get to him.
He was a great voice before it did.
packman
(16,296 posts)PXR-5
(522 posts)BHDem53
(1,061 posts)PXR-5
(522 posts)in my muddy, rat, snake and spider infested crawl space count?
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)He ran on being a grifting racist dictator with zero respect for the law from day one. He made it palatable to the Talibornigans by mixing in some PT Barnum and Jim Bakker. To top it off he rode the baseless hate Hillary express.
It was incredibly obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells. And yet millions joined the cult. Those millions are the trouble. All he did was ride the wave to grift up his whole bunch.
2naSalit
(86,336 posts)I've had plenty of dirty, grimy jobs and I agree that my psyche will be glad to have that shower, maybe a long, hot soak.
twodogsbarking
(9,680 posts)nightwing1240
(1,996 posts)Steel mill and filth certainly go together. My wife gave thanks that I showered at the mill rather than bring that dirt home.
usaf-vet
(6,163 posts)The summers working as a teenager (1963-65) in a junkyard, cutting the iron frames off of the tin car bodies. Real tin metal cars!
Grease, oil, transmission fluid, power steering fluid, and brake fluid all mixed into a slimy, slippery black mud you walk in, kneel on, and, yes, laid in when necessary to get the job done.
Blue jeans and long sleeve shirts were worn every day until they could no longer be worn. Usually two weeks. Thrift stores are where you shop.
If the mud didn't get the jeans, then the burnt cuffs from sparks would make them too short to wear. Leather gloves and high "engineer" boots were a must. Hot metal looks like cold metal. Luckily I managed to avoid any significant injuries during those three summers.
Note: OSHA: On December 29, 1970, President Richard M. Nixon signed The Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970.
Hot showers were only allowed after leaving the junkyard clothes in the garage and scrubbing most of the filth off before taking an in-house shower.
One of the great benefits was I was in great physical shape to enter basic military training in October of 1965.
WestMichRad
(1,317 posts)Especially a pig farm. Seems like you can never get the stench out of your nose.
CAFO = Concentrated Animal Feed Operation
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Sleeping in an almost worthless tiny 2-man tent, 12-14 hours a day of different infantry training (often low crawling on dirt), no showering so filthy dirty by the end of the week. Food was 3 meals a day out of can not much bigger than a tuna can. When we got back to HQ Friday night, everybody got naked and threw their fatigues in a big pile for the laundry people to pick up, then off to the first bath in 5 days.
While that was certainly no fun, imagine what the troops were going through out in the bush of Vietnam for weeks at a time. I got lucky and served my 2 years in the States.
we can do it
(12,173 posts)Yeah. But it never lasted years.
Let it be so.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)or mucking out the pig barn again in summer ...
albacore
(2,398 posts)...sweat, stink, diarrhea... they could smell us a mile away.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)I can't even describe it. So filthy to the point where millions or perhaps billions of people would openly celebrate his departure.
applegrove
(118,501 posts)myself. Wagon was piled high. Yes swimming in the river after we finished was glorious. Then we sat down for a great dinner.
Great feeling. If you take the long view your problems seem smaller, the challenges too. Vibes to all the American fighters for democracy.
The description of Jon Krakaur's final steps to the summit of Mount Everest in Into Thin Air work too for when you have to overcome really hard. I can't find a quote of it right now.
Javaman
(62,504 posts)Otterdaemmerung
(70 posts)... except for some of the most gut-wrenching tales (literally as well as figuratively), I'm getting mildly turned on reading these? :LOL: As people tend to comment about pimple-popper videos: "So satisfying"... to hear that you all got clean.
I wish you all a very happy holiday season, hot showers, and endless supplies of the soap or body wash of your choice!
FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)If he doesn't get sent to prison because the judge gives him light sentence ... well I can live with that. I just want to see him charged in federal court, tried and convicted. Hopefully there will be several trials because he's guilty of multiple crimes.
The sentence (prison time) is secondary as I see it. Some judges can't handle sending a former President (white man) to prison and I guess I can understand it. That shouldn't stop any judge from making sure that Chump is convicted of federal crimes committed while in office. Conviction is the main goal.
Chump will die a convicted criminal.