Awesome text from my daughter: "There's an active shooter at my old barracks" Ft Carson, CO

[Roland99]

Ft Carson, CO

She’s living off-post currently.

Edit: awaiting verification
https://www.facebook.com/242181938605/posts/pfbid02BD7FW5RrwsZDUBt9Wn7tVLysZwCudzpanBwjewVuXDuuLNnsQvRx1yNR3ERQ2WxTl/?mibextid=cr9u03

[choie]

1. "Awesome"?

n/t

[Roland99]

2. Sarcasm obviously

[hlthe2b]

17. Not obvious at all. You should edit your post. It is disgustingly cavalier about something

so potentially serious.

[sarisataka]

3. Awesome is a very

Strange way to describe a possible shooting

[NutmegYankee]

9. Classic armed forces sarcasm. nt

[hlthe2b]

16. The term was used by the OP.

Not cute.

[NutmegYankee]

18. Obviously you don't get it.

I work in a military environment. This type of sarcasm is my daily existence, including this specific use of "awesome". It's a classic irony example too.

[hlthe2b]

19. I get use of terms to diminish a potentially dangerous event as though

it matters not at all. It is disgusting as are your attempts to justify it. Much like the RW's excuse for gun violence.

This isn't a military site. Nor, to my knowledge is the OP in the military. Nor to my knowledge are you.

And if, by some chance, the OP wasn't meant to diminish the entire occurrence, simple use of the sarcasm emoticon or better--use of explanatory language would have made the difference. They chose not to, even though multiple posters expressed their disgust at the term. His daughter was safe--does he care not a wit about those who were potentially at risk than to describe the whole event as "awesome?" And you defend that! No, I will NEVER "get that."

[NutmegYankee]

21. No, disgusting is you attacking the OP and me.

The OP was reacting in his own way to the shock of the text from his daughter. The sarcasm is his way of dealing with the frustration that virtually all of us feel about these constant gun issues. If you insist on attacking those of us well versed in sarcasm then you are simply making a fool of yourself and damaging the previous high opinion I had of you.

[hlthe2b]

22. I don't attack you but your defense

Of callousness and diminishnent of gun violence as if it were some kind of joke. It isn’t a video game where ignorant teen males would consider every “kill” as “awesome”… i hate to think how you both will refer to the next Sandy Hool or Uvalde— heaven forbid. Will THAT be “awesome” too?

[NutmegYankee]

23. As I mentioned earlier, clearly you don't get sarcasm.

You wouldn’t have written what you just wrote if you did.

[hlthe2b]

24. You are right. I will NEVER understand making gun violence a big joke as you both

seem to be doing. I'd expect that from a RW-NRA troll--not from the two of you.

I am more disgusted with you than the OP, though, honestly. I have always thought better of you.

[NutmegYankee]

26. Sigh. An NRA troll would just stay silent.

Sarcasm is a vehicle to be used when the situation sucks but you feel powerless to stop it.

Which is basically where we are with gun violence.


Sigh. We eat our own over our use of language while our adversaries laugh.

[hlthe2b]

28. No, DUers are overwhelmingly serious about gun violence. If only

the two of you were, but your lack of appreciation, sensitivity, and overt callousness on this issue show the opposite. There are Duers here who have personally experienced gun violence and tragedy. Your lack of regard and willingness to show compassion, but rather joke about such occurrences, defending using terms like "awesome", is something I'd surely see on an RW website. It has no place here. Shame on you both. That is all

[NutmegYankee]

30. My professor was murdered at Virginia Tech in classrooms I sat in.

I guess according to you that wasn’t personal enough. I’m done with you. People express frustration in their own ways and I’m not going to be forced to express myself to your narrow standards. Think whatever you think. I no longer care.

To accuse me, a died in the wool liberal, of being a right winger is beyond the pale.

[hlthe2b]

31. Yet you would be fine for that to be labeled "awesome?"

Really?

I've lost people to gun violence and I have past ties to VA Tech as well. I am truly sorry about your professor as I am all the victims of gun violence. There is nothing about that to label "awesome." I would never be so senselessly callous to you as you appear to think appropriate to do to others.

Perhaps you might read sarasitaka's comment downstream, who likewise is appalled at your callous and flippant approach to gun violence. And then, maybe think about your lost professor and how appropriate it is to use "awesome" in describing such a horrific tragedy.

[NutmegYankee]

32. Sarcasm and irony means the opposite of the chosen word. nt

[hlthe2b]

33. So, then you think everyone should take everyting you say as sarcastic then.

Umm, okay. Keep digging...

[NutmegYankee]

34. Dig into what?

I’ve had several DU mails thanking me for this thread. You’re in the minority.

[hlthe2b]

35. Rep Santos says what?

There is no way on earth that gun crime and violence and threats are 'AWESOME'...To say that is just SICK. And no, I do not believe you have this hidden, silent group that backs you in that. But, I'm sure it is important for you to BELIEVE that (or at least CLAIM that).

[NutmegYankee]

36. I don't care if you believe me.

Seriously I don't. You spent much of the day arguing semantics and doing nothing to address the plague of "guns everywhere" and mass shootings. If you think you are shaming me, because I understood the shear frustration and feelings of powerlessness by the OP, you have missed the mark by miles and miles. You can smear me by comparing me to right-wingers or Santos, but you aren't changing my mind. And frankly, I may never consider you reasonable or respect you again - we obviously fundamentally disagree on the semantics, but you keep making this personal. That speaks a lot about you...

[hlthe2b]

37. You know NOTHING of my activism on gun control in Colorado and are absoutely

talking about that which you know nothing about and are wrong. As Colorado is one of the few states to actually pass gun control measures after the Aurora Theater shooting, but you are obviously ignorant of that. Just like claiming gun violence is "awesome" is YOUR contribution?

And it is YOUR comment that is saying all we need to know about you. Your attempt at deflection is meaningless. But do tell us what else Rep. Santos had to say about it.


There is NOTHING about gun violence, and threats of violence that are "awesome," no matter how much you suggest it is just fine. It is foul. It is disgusting. It is beyond WRONG. And someone that thinks it's just fine? Well, I know damned well you know better. You have heard from many of them on this thread alone. As sarisataka said, "callous." Yes, indeed.

[NutmegYankee]

40. Great! I'm glad you know me better.

I'm proud to defend the OP and the fine tradition of political liberalism, including the fundamental freedom to express one's frustration in the manner they choose. I take your authoritarian attacks as a badge of honor. I'm delighted that I know you better as well. Go ahead and have the last word - it will no doubt be yet another attack on me personally.

[hlthe2b]

41. Only truth. Labeling threats of violence as "awesome" is indefensible, callous, and

disgusting.

** your projection is on full display in accusing me of authoritarianism because I object to your diminishing gun violence and threats as "awesome?" No, that is my humanity which you might try to find within yourself. I care that people are not harmed.

You are just grasping now and lashing out in all directions. Very sad to see.

[hlthe2b]

42. One injured following shooting on post at Fort Carson-- "Awesome," Nutmeg?

As posted by brooklynite in post#38

(FORT CARSON, Colo.) — Fort Carson U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) continues to investigate a pellet-gun shooting incident that occurred on post in the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division area on Tuesday, Jan. 10.

In an update, Fort Carson said the shooting happened at approximately 8:15 p.m. on Tuesday.

One soldier received minor injuries during the incident, Fort Carson said. The soldier was treated at Evans Army Community Hospital and later released.

Fort Carson said Military Police secured the area immediately and conducted a full search, but neither the shooter nor the weapon was located.

https://www.fox21news.com/top-stories/one-injured-following-shooting-on-post-at-fort-carson/

[malaise]

20. Thanks n/t

[sarisataka]

25. I am familiar with military sarcasm and

Their darkest of gallows humor.

Unless things have changed drastically since I retired, such a statement by someone in the barracks or by responders heading into the danger would be taken as sarcasm. A person who is safe, a distance away, and in no danger being so flippant would be considered callous.

[hlthe2b]

29. "A person who is safe, a distance away, and in no danger being so flippant would be considered

callous" YES INDEED. You are so right.

[hlthe2b]

15. "Awesome" is incredibly disturbing terminology. Really?

I don't find it remotely "appropriate" but just sickening.

[emulatorloo]

5. I hope everything is ok. I can't find any confirmation yet.

[Roland99]

6. All clear issued. Apparently some idiot shot someone with a BB gun and cops were called

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

14. glad she is ok

[electric_blue68]

7. Good luck to her and her colleagues!

[herding cats]

8. That was scary.

Way too much if this going around anymore. It seems constant and endless.

[czarjak]

10. Rehearsal?

[soldierant]

11. I live just across the interstate from Fort Carson -

hadn't heard a thing. Google has nothing. If it was a BB gun an no one seriously hurt, I may not.

Pff topic, but "Awful" originally meant more or less what awesome means now (awe-full.) When words go bad, we generally don't get them back.

[Ford_Prefect]

12. I could not find any credible news source which referred to this event. Fox3Now remarked that it

was over and that it was an incident with a pellet gun. I have no reason to believe FOX3Now(an online service with no timestamps) is the only outlet which could have details or notice of the event so I am suspect of the reporting.

The Face Book reference seems to be from at least 2 hours ago based on the time stamps in the comment section. I am not claiming this is not an event but it is damned odd reporting that it isn't on any MSM.

Nothing on the local FOX or CBS affiliate TV stations.

[Yonnie3]

13. See post number 6 in this thread

The original poster said it was a BB gun incident more than two hours ago. I think an edit of the original post would be appropriate, but what do I know?

[brooklynite]

39. Multiple TV stations reporting it.

[MineralMan]

27. Awesome?

Maybe, if you mean "inspiring awe." But "awesome" is not always a positive adjective, really. An exploding volcano is "awesome," to be sure, but only to someone far away from it. For anyone nearby, "fearsome" is a better word.

The problem your word choice caused is pretty easily understood. Not everyone understands that kind of sarcasm, especially if it's not labeled as such.

"Frightening" might have been a better word, perhaps.

[brooklynite]

38. One injured following shooting on post at Fort Carson

(FORT CARSON, Colo.) — Fort Carson U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) continues to investigate a pellet-gun shooting incident that occurred on post in the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division area on Tuesday, Jan. 10.

In an update, Fort Carson said the shooting happened at approximately 8:15 p.m. on Tuesday.

One soldier received minor injuries during the incident, Fort Carson said. The soldier was treated at Evans Army Community Hospital and later released.

Fort Carson said Military Police secured the area immediately and conducted a full search, but neither the shooter nor the weapon was located.

https://www.fox21news.com/top-stories/one-injured-following-shooting-on-post-at-fort-carson/