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DU apparently needs to be told when something is or isn't sarcasm (Original Post) Roland99 Jan 2023 OP
I think many of us are a bit tightly wound. Turbineguy Jan 2023 #1
A bit? Cheezoholic Jan 2023 #29
more than a BIT Skittles Jan 2023 #33
chacun son got /ˌSHkən sn ˈɡo͞o/ elleng Jan 2023 #2
A chacun son gout. Igel Jan 2023 #22
My recollection, from studying French in High School, elleng Jan 2023 #23
"Chacun a" is how I learned conversationally when I lived in France for a year unblock Jan 2023 #45
I missed it. herding cats Jan 2023 #3
It is necessary. betsuni Jan 2023 #4
IMO NJCher Jan 2023 #5
So if someone feels Trump will not face anything serious they are mentally ill? former9thward Jan 2023 #12
I guess we're depressed, too. 🤨 LakeArenal Jan 2023 #15
that's an example NJCher Jan 2023 #25
Thank you! ZZenith Jan 2023 #30
It was an odd spot for a joke dpibel Jan 2023 #6
A lot of people cognitively cannot comprehend sarcasm unblock Jan 2023 #7
I'm always learning and had never been around people multigraincracker Jan 2023 #38
What does this refer to? Ocelot II Jan 2023 #8
The active shooter in barracks thread with the start "awesome text". nt NutmegYankee Jan 2023 #10
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217549263 dpibel Jan 2023 #13
It's quite possible the replies knew it was sarcasm, but thought sarcasm was inappropriate muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #39
Sarcasm is easier for me to notice in person BigmanPigman Jan 2023 #9
Thank you! Karma13612 Jan 2023 #34
It's not just the fact that republicon actions have nearly eliminated sarcasm & satire, FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #11
Seemed pretty obviously sarcasm to me. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #14
Yes I like to know. I also like context. LakeArenal Jan 2023 #16
That is why ... Raine Jan 2023 #17
Where do we find that? claudette Jan 2023 #19
Click on the smilies button then click the three dots at the very end. It opens up more options chowder66 Jan 2023 #20
Thanks claudette Jan 2023 #42
Click smilies then right next to the memorial candle Raine Jan 2023 #21
Thanks claudette Jan 2023 #43
Why do you say that? claudette Jan 2023 #18
Was It The Post About The Potential Active Shooter? nt SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #24
In real life human interactions, tone indicates sarcasm ColinC Jan 2023 #26
it can NJCher Jan 2023 #28
Yup ❤️ Karma13612 Jan 2023 #37
Of course! Not everyone gets Cha Jan 2023 #27
Why not just do it so there is no problem. patricia92243 Jan 2023 #31
Yup Karma13612 Jan 2023 #36
yes, lots of whining here lately too Skittles Jan 2023 #32
When someone Karma13612 Jan 2023 #35
Sarcasm does not work on the internet because no matter how broad & obvious it is elocs Jan 2023 #40
Everyone does. Sarcasm often simply does not work in written form. Anywhere, not just on DU. Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #41
Been that way since at least 2003. It's why we have a sarcasm smilie. ms liberty Jan 2023 #44

Cheezoholic

(2,006 posts)
29. A bit?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 02:23 AM
Jan 2023

I can see springs snappin' around here a lot of times lol. But considering the overall environment the last 7 years its to be expected

elleng

(130,749 posts)
2. chacun son got /ˌSHkən sn ˈɡo͞o/
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:39 AM
Jan 2023

each to their own taste.
"personally, I'd prefer a soft cow's milk cheese, but as they say “chacun à son goût”"

Igel

(35,275 posts)
22. A chacun son gout.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:41 AM
Jan 2023

To each his (own) taste.

Morphed commonly in some backwaters to "chacun a son gout" (each to his own taste).

My brief stint of learning French was European, not Canadian.

elleng

(130,749 posts)
23. My recollection, from studying French in High School,
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:48 AM
Jan 2023

Long Island NY. THIS quoted above: Definitions from Oxford Languages

unblock

(52,126 posts)
45. "Chacun a" is how I learned conversationally when I lived in France for a year
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jan 2023

"A chacun" is more literary, that might be preferred in books or more formally, but I never heard that construction when I was in France.

To be fair, that was decades ago, and such things change over time.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
3. I missed it.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:44 AM
Jan 2023

Perhaps this is like the death of satire?

These days it's difficult to tell reality from a humorous fake.

NJCher

(35,622 posts)
5. IMO
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:47 AM
Jan 2023

a certain percentage of DU is depressed and has other mental issues.

But then, so does the U.S. population as a whole.

I just wish they wouldn't come on this board and project their negative point of view, prognosticating that trump will never be held to account; Santos either.

I think it's a form of acting out but it has the overall effect of making other posters feel like the state of affairs is hopeless. I don't like to see that because nothing's perfect and that's our job as humans: to make things better.

The majority of people give a fair assessment in their opinions, however.

OTOH, most republicans are out and out sociopaths, and I am not exaggerating. The rubes who vote for them are suckers.

So I'll take a percentage of people depressed over The Criminal Party any day.



former9thward

(31,941 posts)
12. So if someone feels Trump will not face anything serious they are mentally ill?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:07 AM
Jan 2023

Ok, Dr., thanks for the diagnosis...

NJCher

(35,622 posts)
25. that's an example
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:59 AM
Jan 2023

after you read an example, you're supposed to extrapolate.

Also, it's not the POV, it's the consistent negativity, the complete and total hopelessness. It's the same people, over and over and over.

It almost always takes the form of prognostication.

If you fit into that category, just think about your effect on the overall cause.

Consider the fact that a message board is not the appropriate outlet for such feelings. I'm not talking just about DU, I'm talking about any political message board.

There is a mental health forum here. Perhaps that is an appropriate outlet.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
30. Thank you!
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 03:09 AM
Jan 2023

Excellently stated.

Yes, as the stressors in the world increase in number and severity some will turn to sarcasm as a means of coping, while others will have no patience for anything but clear and sincere communication. And then there’s the group who rely on their own pessimism to see themselves through, constantly guarding themselves from any possible disappointment. They are to be pitied.

There’s also, unfortunately, the type who intentionally spread negativity as a means of subtle mind control, sapping our energy and making it more difficult to effect positive change in the world. They are to be shunned.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
7. A lot of people cognitively cannot comprehend sarcasm
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:52 AM
Jan 2023

Well, for some it's something in their dna, for others it's cultural. Brits tend to use sarcasm a lot, so they are better at picking up on it. But not all Brits...

America isn't nearly as big on sarcasm, so even people who could learn simply aren't exposed to it enough.

multigraincracker

(32,641 posts)
38. I'm always learning and had never been around people
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 06:50 AM
Jan 2023

on a certain spectrum of psych pathology. I now have a future brother-in-law that is on the autism spectrum. He does not understand humor. My bad.

dpibel

(2,826 posts)
13. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217549263
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:11 AM
Jan 2023

Subject line: Awesome text from my daughter: "There's an active shooter at my old barracks" Ft Carson, CO

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
39. It's quite possible the replies knew it was sarcasm, but thought sarcasm was inappropriate
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 07:27 AM
Jan 2023

for what had been painted as a life-or-death situation.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
9. Sarcasm is easier for me to notice in person
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:58 AM
Jan 2023

That is one reason why I add the thing to my sarcastic posts and comments. I think that facial expressions and tone of voice help me to identify if someone is being sarcastic. I could never tell when my dad was sarcastic and neither could half of my mother's family, which was often amusing.

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
34. Thank you!
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 05:14 AM
Jan 2023

Sarcasm is hard to do on the internet, especially when you also are not acquainted with the person expressing the thought.

And with the outlandish crap hitting the fan for real lately, some stuff is hard to distinguish.

I was all worked up about something to do with a Medicare/Social Security program and it turned out to be just a hypothesis.

Yes, I am wound too tight. But that hypothesis COULD have been real. And that’s what was scary.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,423 posts)
11. It's not just the fact that republicon actions have nearly eliminated sarcasm & satire,
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:05 AM
Jan 2023

there are those here who actively look for posts to alert on because they don't like the poster's point of view. So the sarcasm thingy is needed for clarification.

Shouldn't be, but is.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
16. Yes I like to know. I also like context.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:15 AM
Jan 2023

And yes I sometimes miss the satire.

Edit: FFS… How much longer does it take to add the sarcasm emoji? Lazy?

Raine

(30,540 posts)
21. Click smilies then right next to the memorial candle
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:40 AM
Jan 2023
the square with the three dots to bring up more smiles.

ColinC

(8,279 posts)
26. In real life human interactions, tone indicates sarcasm
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 02:00 AM
Jan 2023

On message boards and written speech, sarcasm must be defined in other ways.

NJCher

(35,622 posts)
28. it can
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 02:14 AM
Jan 2023

but in the field of speech communication, "tone" communicates the emotional "take" on the situation.

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
35. When someone
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 05:23 AM
Jan 2023

Misinterprets something as real, and it involves some new Republican legislation-from-hades, then a sarcasm tag is needed.

I was tripped up by a post on a Social Security/Medicare “pilot” program. Turns out it was a harmless joke.

It shook me up because I know that is something The Republicans are eager to do, cut the social safety net.

A sarcasm tag would have been helpful. I researched the topic and determined there was no proposed pilot program. At 69, this kinda stuff is scary as 💩.

elocs

(22,546 posts)
40. Sarcasm does not work on the internet because no matter how broad & obvious it is
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:15 AM
Jan 2023

somebody will completely agree with it and shout, "Amen!" And providing a label that indicates it is sarcasm pretty much defeats the point of making it.

Scrivener7

(50,918 posts)
41. Everyone does. Sarcasm often simply does not work in written form. Anywhere, not just on DU.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:23 AM
Jan 2023

What most of us here DON'T need to do is make a thread complaining about that fact.

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