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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThree weeks and 38 mass shootings. This is America in 2023.
It's the guns.
A study published late last year in JAMA Network Open analyzed firearm deaths over the past three decades a total of more than 1 million lives lost since 1990.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/mass-shootings-in-2023-what-matters/index.html
RockRaven
(14,899 posts)There isn't even any hope of anything being done. Hell, we can't even realistically hope that the status quo simply holds. The unethical, unprofessional, and unaccountable Roberts Court will probably make things even worse.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)The GOP creates chaos, danger, fear, hatred.
Serves to keep a population docile and apathetic.
This is the basis of autocratic forms of government.
groundloop
(11,514 posts)Gun violence is simply the logical and inevitable result of allowing mass gun sales so the gun industry can profit.
Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)There is more to it. Much much more, the GOP benefits from installing fear into the population.
But don't worry on the cynicism front, most people have a way to go to catch up to me.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)I think it's mainly about the money as well.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)I think it's mainly about the money as well.
certainot
(9,090 posts)the fear of uncertainty/need for certainty that drives authoritarianism
certainot
(9,090 posts)elected, and because democrats ignore those radio stations, and what they repeat after all mass shootings
every time these mass murders happen those stations go on red alert defending the NRA and blaming the shooter and liberals calling for gun control and defunding police and making sure everyone has to be able to own assault weapons
a few hundred ignorant racists and assholes still imitating limbaugh on 1500 radio stations reaching 50 mil a week, saying whatever they want because all that repeated lying, exaggeration, and rationalization is UNCHALLENGED BY DEMOCRATS AND GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES.
and we ignore some amazing opportunities, such as ignoring that the uni of syracuse, 150 miles from the buffalo shooting supports 9 NRA stations - 6 ex limbaugh and 3 others
this would be a lot closer to over if the parkland protestors didn't ignore that 5 fla unis support 20 NRA stations. its ridiculous.
Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)They could turn around the gun issue if they wanted.
In a short amount of time.
They don't want to.
certainot
(9,090 posts)establishment GOP at least back in 2008 with the tea party and breitbart and paul manafort got limbaugh to hold his support for mccain until he picked palin. the russians used limbaugh to push palin on mccain and the rove/bush GOP establishment though he cost them the election. after that the Russians kept using him - for creating 'climategate' in 2009 and pushing debt ceiling default in 2011 and then heavy duty radicalization of republicans to election of limbaugh's neighbor and golf partner trump
they became the party of limbaugh and now they're headless and grieving and afraid of the gun nuts. they have depended heavily on parroting rw radio to get elected and still do and the dittoheads/teabags/trumpers/gun nuts call in to make sure the blowhards don't start wavering on gun control
maybe now that central control is gone maybe enough GOP can join in but as long idiots like cruz etc can filibuster there's little hope
the best way is for the Dem Party or an allied org to announce it's going to use the MIT prototype to digitize RW radio present and in retrospect and the cons will start abandoning ship
Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)Some say the US is a Russian vassal state.
Look at Germany, same thing.
The Germans really don't want to help Ukraine, they align with Putin.
I think the US leaned on them to cough up the tanks, but first Germany wouldn't budge
until Poland had agreed to give them some money for weapons.
You can see why Putin thought invading Ukraine was a cake walk.
His puppets installed in western democracies had his back.
Didn't turn out that way completely.
I don't know how all of this will end.
Can we fight back?
Or has the US gone too far down the rabbit hole?
certainot
(9,090 posts)through point liar limbaugh. those radio stations are what keep the GOP pols in line on self destruct. and russians are using radio around the world.
but that could end quickly if dems/americans merely used AI to digitize and analyze samples of that propaganda operation so it can be read and analyzed and is no longer invisible. if dems stop ignoring rw radio media will be encouraged to stop ignoring it too, and do some research.
as long as democrats and progressives ignore rw radio the doomsayers are misguided and too pessimistic or trolls
Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)Even on military bases.
Controlling the flow of information is right from the KGB handbook.
Yes it is puzzling why we don't fight back. Yes it is so hard to see ruthless evil take over.
But also hard to see so little fight against it.
Certainly if we can see it, so can the people who get paid to notice Russia taking over
our media.
I didn't understand your last sentence about the doomsayers?
certainot
(9,090 posts)on the edge of doom while ignoring the major and only unique media advantage republicans/authoritarians have
Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)And the reality is not pretty.
I have been a political junkie since JFK ran against Nixon.
That means I have seen a lot.
I think the current situation is quite serious and disturbing.
And I keep saying so.
Not to make people give up, but to start fighting back.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
PUBLISHED DATE: January 24, 2023
Total Number of GV Deaths - 2023
ALL Causes 2,791
Homicide/Murder/Unintentional/DGU 1,207
Suicide 1,584
Total Number of Injuries 2,109
Mass Shootings 38
Mass Murders 6
Skittles
(153,113 posts)mass shootings are now SOP in America
Blue Owl
(50,263 posts)live love laugh
(13,079 posts)When the Republican-Owned Media redefined the term mass shooting a few years ago, the number of victims was reduced to 4. Before that, the victim counts that qualified as mass shootings were in the teens or higher. And the shooters were predominantly white men.
As a result of redefinition, the number of mass shooting occurrences not total victims has skyrocketed. And mass shooters have gone from white to mostly black or POC.
Martin68
(22,765 posts)count as a mass shooting decreased because it helps to highlight the gun problem.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)I hope I live long enough to move out of America, to a country where they actually place a value on human life.
Between guns and how people in America dealt with Covid, I'm done.
JI7
(89,240 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,504 posts)DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)righties are blaming the government and not the people. That is insane.
twodogsbarking
(9,675 posts)Plenty of stories to cover and it would make a point.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)The greedheads and malefactors of wealth are in absolute paradise. Isnt that what Murican Capitalism is all about?
niyad
(113,066 posts)dlk
(11,513 posts)No American is safe.