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GGoss

(1,273 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 10:40 PM Jan 2023

Veteran reporter goes there: Was 'crooked' Russia-friendly FBI spy the source of the Trump and Clint

Veteran reporter goes there: Was 'crooked' Russia-friendly FBI spy the source of the Trump and Clinton lies to the NYT? - RawStory

Veteran reporter Will Bunch of the Philadelphia Inquirer questioned the reporting from The New York Times that was published in 2016 during the campaign between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Among the many false things that the Times reported was the allegation that new emails were discovered related to Anthony Weiner's underage sexting case. None of the reporting was true.

Today, MSNBC's Joy Reid said that the report "sparked a lot of questions, not just about the Justice Department's decision-making but also the FBI, because the push for that announcement was coming from the FBI's New York field office, which according to Reuters, had a faction of investigators based in the office known to be hostile to Hillary Clinton."

Last week, former FBI counterintelligence chief at the New York office, Charles McGonigal, was arrested and charged with money laundering and other concerns related to his relationship with a Russian oligarch.

"At the time, James Comey made his unprecedented public announcement in 2016, there was no bigger consumer of the Clinton email story than The New York Times," Reid explained. "They ran story after story on her emails in 2016, devoting two-thirds of the great lady's front page to Comey's announcement. That was followed up a few days later from another helpful piece for Trump citing unnamed intelligence sources headlined investigating Donald Trump, FBI seized no clear link to Russia. Something that would later be proven untrue."


Link: https://www.rawstory.com/new-york-fbi-russia-nytimes/

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Veteran reporter goes there: Was 'crooked' Russia-friendly FBI spy the source of the Trump and Clint (Original Post) GGoss Jan 2023 OP
This should be 24/7 front page news. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #1
+1 BeyondGeography Jan 2023 #2
Ha! Thanks for that back story! SunSeeker Jan 2023 #12
Funny isn't how Durham and Barr never found this guy while they were investigating.... Thomas Hurt Jan 2023 #3
i'd like to know what the NYT writer and editor did Takket Jan 2023 #4
+1000! Hassler Jan 2023 #6
Judith Miller - Yes, That NYT DallasNE Jan 2023 #9
YES !! And Comey should be ***MADE*** to tell who he thought the NY Fed office leak was uponit7771 Jan 2023 #5
Get Comey front and center and talking ASAP. I think the DOJ already knows who is behind this. flying_wahini Jan 2023 #7
The Times knows who's behind this, too gratuitous Jan 2023 #10
Keith Olbermann has been all over this in the kairos12 Jan 2023 #8
Seth Abramson article from 2017 canetoad Jan 2023 #11
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jan 2023 #13
I think it is about time to make a check on Comey's finances and assets. PurgedVoter Jan 2023 #14
I had my eyes opened about corrupt main stream news papers when I read "Bad City" by Pringle. Samrob Jan 2023 #15
There's nothing to be said in Woodward's defense... Duppers Jan 2023 #16

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
1. This should be 24/7 front page news.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 10:47 PM
Jan 2023

Thank the gods that McGonigal's ex-girl friend tipped off the feds.

Listening to Stephanie Miller today the girl friend dated McGonigal for a year and didn't know he was married. She also found a big bag of cash in his apartment.

SunSeeker

(51,523 posts)
12. Ha! Thanks for that back story!
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 01:15 AM
Jan 2023

A pissed Ex seemed to be how a big chunk of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were identified too.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. Funny isn't how Durham and Barr never found this guy while they were investigating....
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 11:21 PM
Jan 2023

the investigators. Two years after the Pig was ousted they catch up with him and arrest.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
4. i'd like to know what the NYT writer and editor did
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 11:30 PM
Jan 2023

Let's assume, for the moment, that McGonigal and his goons were feeding bullshit to the NYT both about Clinton's "emails" and Russiagate in an effort to harm Clinton.

Now... just because someone in the government says something doesn't mean you publish it. You're sources can remain anonymous but that doesn't mean the writer doesn't have a responsibility to ask their source to prove it, or at least have the writer go out on their own and prove it themselves somehow. not only that, but when said writer presents said steaming pile of bullshit to their editor, the editor is supposed to ask the same questions.

Who did you talk to?

What proof did they give you?

What follow up did you do to corroborate this?

etc etc

Because here's what i think happened......

Writer: "Holy shit! HER EMAILS!"

Editor: "Holy shit indeed. How long do you need to back this up?"

"By the time I back this up, election day will have gone by. Do you want to sell papers or not?"

"Fuck it. Run it on page 1."

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
9. Judith Miller - Yes, That NYT
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 12:08 AM
Jan 2023

They have plenty of dirt on their hands. I seldom source them for that reason.

Comey knowingly lied about the Clinton emails on Anthony Weiners laptop. All Comey ever had was an email backup file. There could by definition not been any new email. It would have had email deleted after the backup but before Clinton turned over her computer to the FBI. Indeed, it turned out that most of the emails were exact duplicates of what they already had, and they knew that would be the case. The backup file actually exonerated Clinton rather than being a smoking gun. It was never more than a fishing expedition and it ended up being a dry hole.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. The Times knows who's behind this, too
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 12:23 AM
Jan 2023

It used to be in the journalism and news-gathering world that if a source burned a reporter, the reporter didn't feel any obligation to protect that source anymore, and name him. Nowadays, though, because access to people who lie to you is so important, reporters won't disclose their source even when the source made the reporter look like an idiot. Why the Times isn't giving up who peddled the Russian hoax misinformation will keep their rationale quiet forever. This is the same Times that sat on a blockbuster story about domestic spying by the Dubya administration, releasing only after Dubya and his henchmen were safely re-elected to spill the beans on that. The stated reason by the Times is that they didn't want to affect the outcome of the Bush-Kerry election. Which, of course, was affected by the Times' self-imposed embargo on their own story.

kairos12

(12,844 posts)
8. Keith Olbermann has been all over this in the
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 12:05 AM
Jan 2023

last couple of podcasts. He explains in detail about the connection. Especially with traitor Manafort.

PurgedVoter

(2,215 posts)
14. I think it is about time to make a check on Comey's finances and assets.
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 01:28 AM
Jan 2023

I wonder what request went too far when he finally said no to TFG. It's kind of clear that TFG, while happy to perform for, blackmail, extort and make exchanges with all the nefarious movers and shakers is in the end owned by Putin. It is possible that Comey's connections feared Clinton but were not ready to bow to Putin's rule. Sad that Comey threw away a distinguished career for a permanent mark of shame.

At the end of any discussion of Comey I always think that it is possible that without his contributions, covid would be something that was caught and isolated early by the team that was instead dismantled by Republican politicians. Millions dead, Comey. A million of them American and we are still counting.


Samrob

(4,298 posts)
15. I had my eyes opened about corrupt main stream news papers when I read "Bad City" by Pringle.
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 01:42 AM
Jan 2023

I used to admire the work done by the NYT and WSJ...that was when I was a kid and didn't know any better.

Even Woodward is sleaze. Journalists who hold back on important research to be able to write a book are as bad as the perps they write about.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
16. There's nothing to be said in Woodward's defense...
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 06:57 AM
Jan 2023

He's still an editor at the WaPo, which is a mixed bag but at least better than the NYT.

The press has badly let the country down.
There are folks of integrity at MSNBC now, thankfully.

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