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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:38 AM Feb 2023

SINCE PARKLAND

12 months

1,200 American kids killed by guns

1,200 stories about the lives they led, reported by teen journalists across the country


Fatal shootings of children have been on the rise, government data show. But as the deaths mount, the toll is bigger than what numbers can capture.

See their names.


About SINCE PARKLAND.

What does that say about US?
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SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. It Says We're A Shithole Country, And Nothing Will Change
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:42 AM
Feb 2023

This shooting will be forgotten within a week or two.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
2. I refuse to accept that outcome.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:52 PM
Feb 2023

As I look around and see more states passing political carry laws (nothing Constitutional about concealed or open carry without oversight of any kind) and see judges using Bruen to obviate any gun law passed since 1789 I admit some discouragement.

On the other hand I see and feel a change in the populace of the country. There is a growing anger at the way lawmakers and judges are putting the interests of a very few above the good of the many. The anger will grow to rage and when it does the pendulum will swing and when it does there is no telling how far it will swing.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
3. You Don't Have To Accept It
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:43 PM
Feb 2023

Neither do the families of victims who have spent their years trying to make a difference. But the reality is that this country isn’t going to change.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
4. Your encouragement is certainly heartening.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:30 PM
Feb 2023

You don't have to support the effort but please stop denegrating it.

Irish_Dem

(46,781 posts)
6. Both points of view are valuable in terms of problem solving.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 11:52 AM
Feb 2023

We need people who can face harsh realties and see the truth of the matter,
whether we like it or not. And who can warn people. This takes courage.

Then we also need people who are optimistic, full of energy who can
formulate plans, and take action. This also takes courage.

Both points of view are the flip side of the same coin.

Fighting the good fight.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
10. Let me know when you get around to one of those.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:09 PM
Feb 2023

All I see is cowardly submission. Do NOT compare yourself to those who face up to gun culture. It's easy to just say, "Oh well, I can't do anything so I'll just quietly watch as others do the work." At best consider yourself a collaborator and be honest about it..

Irish_Dem

(46,781 posts)
11. Happy talk is designed to keep up the morale of the public and troops.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:09 PM
Feb 2023

Real leaders behind the scenes know the only way to win a war is to face harsh reality head on.
Zelensky, Churchill, FDR are good examples of this.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
12. So now you compare yourself to Zelenski and Churchill. Ha!
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:30 PM
Feb 2023

I remember well when Churchill said, "Face it, we're gonna lose."

maxsolomon

(33,268 posts)
5. It says that America has a problem with Firearm Saturation.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:53 PM
Feb 2023

Each firearm only has a small chance of being used in a homicide, but multiply that by 400 million or whatever, and you get weekly slaughters.

It's like we have Guns Fever, and our temperature just keeps going up. Who knows when the fever will break; it doesn't seem immanent.

The 2nd says what it says, and our courts and legislatures are interpreting it in the most Liberal manner possible. I'm shocked no Gunner group is challenging the National Firearms Act limits on Full-Automatic weapons that are nearly 90 years old.

SYFROYH

(34,165 posts)
7. I don't think the NFA registration requirement is a problem, but the moritorium on post-1986....
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 12:34 PM
Feb 2023

...machine guns might be vulnerable.

One thing that may help keep the moratorium is that a lot of wealthy registered machine gun owners have a lot of money wrapped in their machine guns that would lose about 75% of their value instantly should new machine guns be available.

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